I don't think you can blame Renney on that one. It was (and is) the responsibility of the players on the ice to recognize when it is appropriate to go for a line change.
Well maybe the fact that the oilers have had HORRENDOUS line changes all year in which at least a half dozen have directly resulted in goals goes back to the friggin coaches. If it is not renney then it is his assistants.
Well maybe the fact that the oilers have had HORRENDOUS line changes all year in which at least a half dozen have directly resulted in goals goes back to the friggin coaches. If it is not renney then it is his assistants.
No, it's the players and their lack of hockey sense.
No, it's the players and their lack of hockey sense.
This.
Blaming Renney for this is simply looking for something to blame him for. If you don't know when or when not to make a change by the time you make the NHL you have major problems. An NHL coach shouldn't have to instruct his players on how to make a proper line change.
Blaming Renney for this is simply looking for something to blame him for. If you don't know when or when not to make a change by the time you make the NHL you have major problems. An NHL coach shouldn't have to instruct his players on how to make a proper line change.
Oh, c'mon please don't even go there. It is 115% the coaches fault. It's obvious the players were on the ice, it's obvious Renney can't control their cognitive decision making. BUT, when it's happened more than once this year and both resulted in a goal that is absolutely unacceptable, period. What point is he making by sending them out the very next ****ing shift?
It's called accountability, and unfourtanetly for us, our clueless coach exercisesZERO of it. You want to remain the laughing stock of the league? keep this baboon standing behind the bench.
I don't get it, some people are so content with mediocracy it's scary.
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Reason: content** not contempt
Oh, c'mon please don't even go there. It is 115% the coaches fault. It's obvious the players were on the ice, it's obvious Renney can't control their cognitive decision making. BUT, when it's happened more than once this year and both resulted in a goal that is absolutely unacceptable, period. What point is he making by sending them out the very next ****ing shift?
It's called accountability, and unfourtanetly for us, our clueless coach exercisesZERO of it. You want to remain the laughing stock of the league? keep this baboon standing behind the bench.
I don't get it, some people are so contempt with mediocracy it's scary.
Excellent post. I agree. The first time it happens, blame the players. The following times, it's on the coach
No, it's the players and their lack of hockey sense.
It is part the players and part the coaches. Well coached teams don't do things like this. As Rob Brown said on the post-game show, this type of change shows a lack of respect toward the coach. They don't seem to want to play for him with the required focus.
I don't like Renney much either but seeing people blame this on him is making my belly ache from laughing too hard.
What is Renney supposed to do to stop this from happening?
Renney should be commanding respect. Do you think Hitch teams do line-changes like this? He would have their heads on a stake. On Renney's team they will do things like this all the time.
Rip a strip off them and then bag skate them. It's not like this is the first time it happened
He should've bag skated them before the incident happened yesterday? I'm asking what he could've done to make sure that incident never happened. I don't think bag skating the team is going to increase their hockey sense. That was a mental mistake that can't be fixed by the coach.
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Originally Posted by Insta
Renney should be commanding respect. Do you think Hitch teams do line-changes like this? He would have their heads on a stake. On Renney's team they will do things like this all the time.
Commanding respect isn't going to make Smyth dump that puck down the ice further or suddenly make the players on the ice realize they don't have time for a line change.
How does anyone here know that Renney hasn't ripped them each time this has happened? Does anyone here have any inside info, or is this pure speculation as per usual?
Commanding respect isn't going to make Smyth dump that puck down the ice further or suddenly make the players on the ice realize they don't have time for a line change.
You bet it would make the guys think twice about changing. If the players gave a **** about what is going on then they wouldn't just go "durr, I'm tired and don't care so I am going to change regardless of whether I should or not." Shows a lack of respect and lack of focus.
Funniest thing about it? It's the vets with supposed reps of being hard workers and good teammates taking that leisurely skate off the ice. The leadership core that is supposed to be an example of professionalism for the young players on this team, including the captain Shawn "He sucks, but you can never fault his work ethic" Horcoff.
But yeah, it's all Renny's fault and this team is terrible because it relies on too many young players.
He should've bag skated them before the incident happened yesterday? I'm asking what he could've done to make sure that incident never happened. I don't think bag skating the team is going to increase their hockey sense. That was a mental mistake that can't be fixed by the coach.
Yes, well before it happened... You know, like last time it happened....
You bet it would make the guys think twice about changing. If the players gave a **** about what is going on then they wouldn't just go "durr, I'm tired and don't care so I am going to change regardless of whether I should or not." Shows a lack of respect and lack of focus.
You think the players put that much thought into what they do on the ice? Hockey is a fast paced game, these players are going off of their instincts. Whether they make the right decision or not comes down to hockey sense, something Renney can't teach.
