Greening got rocked. His visor saved him from being totally annihilated.
Doesn't matter about the extra roughing penalty with Roloson in net anyway, Sens would have scored a deflating softy sooner or later.
Wouldn't you rather have taken your chances than have a back-breaking goal scored on the PP for a completely unnecessary penalty? Yes, Roloson sucks, he's done, but the momentum was with the Lightning and the Sens were thinking back to Sunday when they blew a lead vs Florida. It was a pivotal point in the game.
Greening got rocked. His visor saved him from being totally annihilated.
Doesn't matter about the extra roughing penalty with Roloson in net anyway, Sens would have scored a deflating softy sooner or later.
As opposed to Aulie's?
Either way, Greening hammered Aulie in the corner, took some serious shots for the team, got a few in, drew a penalty, scored a goal, set one up, and basically put the lightning away. Aulie was a selfish fight.
Awesome fight by Aulie. He was having a poor season in Toronto, but I'm sad that we traded him. I think he's going to be a very good defenseman one day, but we need big forwards more than defense right now.
Going to miss him in Toronto. He ALWAYS sticks up for teammates.
How was anything of what he just did classified as "sticking up for a teamate"...it was a selfish penalty because he got rocked cleanly...took a dumb penalty that ottawa took advantage of and sealed tampa's fate.
I'm sorry but in what section of reality is there an extra penalty here? It's most certainly not the on-ice call of Roughing.
Now, if you say this is an instigator you should notice that there was no initial intent to fight when the scrum started. And if anything, Greening dropped his gloves first. If you want an instigator called here, you're basically arguing for one on every single fight that occurs spontaneously (as a result of hard play, hitting, etc). You're asking for fighting in the league to become a complete joke - an emotionless event, relegated to be between guys who are only there to fight each other, simply staged off of a faceoff every now and then.
Fact. Aulie took a dumb penalty because Greening hammered him.
Fact. Tampa had scored the last 2 goals and had the momentum.
Fact. Ottawa scored on that PP.
I don't expect fans on non-playoff teams to understand that though, only moral victories at this point in the season, right . As a Leaf fan you should be able to feel for the Lightning...
Nice troll though.
Would you mind attempting to explain what 'dumb' penalty Aulie actually committed here?
While the irony of an Ottawa fan attempting to lecture others about the playoffs isn't lost on me, it'd make more sense to keep this on topic.
Would you mind attempting to explain what 'dumb' penalty Aulie actually committed here?
While the irony of an Ottawa fan attempting to lecture others about the playoffs isn't lost on me, it'd make more sense to keep this on topic.
Ironic how? Last time I checked they missed the show 2 times in the last what? 15 years?
Aulie got hit clean and hit hard, got up, looked for a fight, got one and he took a penalty because of it and basically took Tampa out of the game.
It's stupid because Aulie didn't need to fight there. The play was over, he was fine, no one took any liberties, skate away. They had all the momentum so again, no reason to turn the tide from Tampa's perspective. Wrong time, wrong reason, simple as that.
1. Aulie got an extra 2 minutes for roughing, which is what people are calling a 'dumb' penalty.
I'm well aware, and if you look up a few posts you'll see that I made an argument that there should not have been a roughing call (this is as plain as day), and that if you claim it should have been an instigator you're basically advocating an instigator on every single non-staged fight in the league.
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2. Ottawas only missed the playoffs twice since 1996...
I'm well aware, and if you look up a few posts you'll see that I made an argument that there should not have been a roughing call (this is as plain as day), and that if you claim it should have been an instigator you're basically advocating an instigator on every single non-staged fight in the league.
Yes. And how has that worked out for you?
He went after Greening for a clean hit... why shouldn't that be a roughing call? He's lucky they didn't give him the inst. penalty and he probably caught a break only getting the roughing call.
Not sure how you can view the penalty he took as anything but stupid and avoidable.
He went after Greening for a clean hit... why shouldn't that be a roughing call?
Because there was no 'roughing', and minor events and scrums like that happen multiple times every game.
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He's lucky they didn't give him the inst. penalty and he probably caught a break only getting the roughing call.
Again, if you consider that an instigator, you might as well remove spontaneous fighting from the game altogether. We'll have fighting just be a side show for when coaches want to call timeouts.
Because there was no 'roughing', and minor events and scrums like that happen multiple times every game.
Again, if you consider that an instigator, you might as well remove spontaneous fighting from the game altogether. We'll have fighting just be a side show for when coaches want to call timeouts.
I don't consider that an instigator and I think the instigator in general is an awful concept in general. That said, the instigator has been called for less than what Aulie did and fact of the matter is he went after Greening for no reason after the whistle, it was pointless, the best thing that could possibly come from his decision to start that fight was him winning a fight and going to the box with his team down a man which is exactly what happened.
Aulie was penalized for starting a fight after a whistle for basically no reason. The goalie wasn't run or even touched, there was no player on his team hit, clean, dirty, or otherwise. He retaliated and got called for it. It was a stupid time to fight and he cost his team in a big way, it was probably the turning point in the game to be honest or prevented the Lightning from drawing even.
I don't consider that an instigator and I think the instigator in general is an awful concept in general. That said, the instigator has been called for less than what Aulie did and fact of the matter is he went after Greening for no reason after the whistle, it was pointless, the best thing that could possibly come from his decision to start that fight was him winning a fight and going to the box with his team down a man which is exactly what happened.
Aulie was penalized for starting a fight after a whistle for basically no reason. The goalie wasn't run or even touched, there was no player on his team hit, clean, dirty, or otherwise. He retaliated and got called for it. It was a stupid time to fight and he cost his team in a big way, it was probably the turning point in the game to be honest or prevented the Lightning from drawing even.
I'm going to let this lie, as it's clear I completely disagree with most of what you're saying. Guy Boucher put it best saying "Aulie did the right thing" and there was "nothing to reproach him, for something we see every faceoff, every scrum".
But you're right, it was definitely one of two turning points in the game - the second being the Stamkos call.
Wouldn't you rather have taken your chances than have a back-breaking goal scored on the PP for a completely unnecessary penalty? Yes, Roloson sucks, he's done, but the momentum was with the Lightning and the Sens were thinking back to Sunday when they blew a lead vs Florida. It was a pivotal point in the game.
The pivotal point was actually after Stamkos brought the Bolts to within 1 goal and the refs made up a Goalie Interference call and put Tampa's MVP in the box for no reason, but you can blame Aulie if you like.
I'm going to let this lie, as it's clear I completely disagree with most of what you're saying. Guy Boucher put it best saying "Aulie did the right thing" and there was "nothing to reproach him, for something we see every faceoff, every scrum".
But you're right, it was definitely one of two turning points in the game - the second being the Stamkos call.
That was weak for sure but those have been called all year for even less on every single team.
How was anything of what he just did classified as "sticking up for a teamate"...it was a selfish penalty because he got rocked cleanly...took a dumb penalty that ottawa took advantage of and sealed tampa's fate.
I didn't classify what he did as sticking up for a teammate. I just said that Aulie, in general, sticks up for his teammates whenever given the opportunity to.