At the beginning of the year I was a proponent of re-signing Campbell but now I'm not so sure. His play and production was OK--but not great--until late January where it seems to have nosedived.
LAST 19 GAMES:
ZERO Goals
ZERO Assists
MINUS 10
No hits registered in 8 of 19 games
No shots registered in 10 of 19 games
Faceoff percentage under 45%
One fight (after 19 games with none)
Averaging roughly 13 mins per game in this timeperiod.
Kind of disappointing. I was hoping he would build off of his 13 goal 32 point season last year. He's been given decent opportunity to do so. His linemates have mostly outplayed/outhustled him all year so he's not really being anchored. Hopefully he will turn it around in the stretch drive/playoffs.
In the meantime...
Is his play/production worthy of any criticism? He seems to escape it even in tough times when his numbers are as bad or worse than others.
What do you think of his play this season?
Why do you want him back next season?
What should he get for a contract and/or What's the max amount you would offer him?
If you prefer to let him go, who do you replace him next season with and why?
The B's need a deal somewhere and as a UFA he will get more than he is worth. We'll see what his post-season does for the discussion, but right now I can't see him being worth what he will get offered on the open market.
Well he tanked right about the same time the whole team tanked.
I like Campbell-and I think his play is one huge reason our 4th line is one of the best in hockey.
I will also add that since everyone on the team started to get broken Julien has used the 4th line more like a 3rd line and checking line. So it may just be a combination of things.
Campbell is one of the pending UFA's though who I think may look for a bigger payout come this summer elsewhere because there are teams that can and will pay it.
At the beginning of the year I was a proponent of re-signing Campbell but now I'm not so sure. His play and production was OK--but not great--until late January where it seems to have nosedived.
LAST 19 GAMES:
ZERO Goals
ZERO Assists
MINUS 10
No hits registered in 8 of 19 games
No shots registered in 10 of 19 games
Faceoff percentage under 45%
One fight (after 19 games with none)
Averaging roughly 13 mins per game in this timeperiod.
Kind of disappointing. I was hoping he would build off of his 13 goal 32 point season last year. He's been given decent opportunity to do so. His linemates have mostly outplayed/outhustled him all year so he's not really being anchored. Hopefully he will turn it around in the stretch drive/playoffs.
In the meantime...
Is his play/production worthy of any criticism? He seems to escape it even in tough times when his numbers are as bad or worse than others.
What do you think of his play this season?
Why do you want him back next season?
What should he get for a contract and/or What's the max amount you would offer him?
If you prefer to let him go, who do you replace him next season with and why?
Most of the players on this team haven`t exactly produced much in the way of numbers, and most as well have seen their play dip.
Last year that 4th line contributed offensively in ways that I`d say most here would never have anticipated. I`d still put them at the top of, or exceptionally close to the top as being THE premier 4th line in this league.
That doesn`t mean I`m opposed to allowing Soupy go, it`s part of the business, but it wouldn`t be for reasons stated in your post (which is a very good post by the way)
The organization has made him an offer, just as it has to his linemates. So it seems interested in keeping the trio intact. Whether the offer is in Gregory's ballpark or just a starting point for discusion is another story.
I believe we will lose one of either Kelly or Campbell, most likely Kelly, who will capitalize on his stats this year to score a big multi year contract.
The organization has made him an offer, just as it has to his linemates. So it seems interested in keeping the trio intact. Whether the offer is in Gregory's ballpark or just a starting point for discusion is another story.
I believe we will lose one of either Kelly or Campbell, most likely Kelly, who will capitalize on his stats this year to score a big multi year contract.
We`ll see, Kelly won`t just go anywhere for money IMO, the guy has a ton of integrity and character and wants to win.
If it`s an offer from a team that has a legit chance, then maybe, but then again, maybe he wouldn`t want to uproot himself (not sure if he`s married/kids?) all for the sake of $$$$.
Chia isn`t the type of GM who offers disrespectful contracts, if Kelly moves, it would be over length of deal IMO not money
We`ll see, Kelly won`t just go anywhere for money IMO, the guy has a ton of integrity and character and wants to win.
If it`s an offer from a team that has a legit chance, then maybe, but then again, maybe he wouldn`t want to uproot himself (not sure if he`s married/kids?) all for the sake of $$$$.
Chia isn`t the type of GM who offers disrespectful contracts, if Kelly moves, it would be over length of deal IMO not money
I've seen a number of comments that Senators fans really want Kelly back there. I wonder if the the Senators management feels the same about him.
I've seen a number of comments that Senators fans really want Kelly back there. I wonder if the the Senators management feels the same about him.
I hope he stays in Boston.
I`m sure they (as would many teams) would however, with the youth movement now in full swing there, and the success they have tasted this year, not sure where he fits in that lineup??
We`ll see, Kelly won`t just go anywhere for money IMO, the guy has a ton of integrity and character and wants to win.
I agree with this. Kelly doesn't strike me as a guy who is looking for the biggest paycheck.
I think he is a guy who factors in team and his role on the team.
Campbell is harder to put a finger on-I think he likes it in Boston but I honestly could see him looking for bigger bucks-although I think he likes playing on a winning team but I am not sure that means he absolutely wants to stay in Boston.
I honestly think Paille might get more money elsewhere, and I am not certain that they will resign him. I figure Thornton will stay here as long as they offer him a contract. I know he loves the city and it is clear the city loves him.
Oh and I don't see Ottawa resigning Kelly. I think they like Kelly and respect him, but I don't think he fits with their goals for the team at this point. Although they may look at his leadership and cup experience and see him as a Recchi like veteran at this point.
I`m not sure Chia can sign em all, clearly he wants to, and if he does, this not only speaks to the kind of GM Chia is, it speaks to just how great of a job that this organization has done by completely changing the culture and pride of playing for the Bruins organization.
I agree with this. Kelly doesn't strike me as a guy who is looking for the biggest paycheck.
I think he is a guy who factors in team and his role on the team.
Campbell is harder to put a finger on-I think he likes it in Boston but I honestly could see him looking for bigger bucks-although I think he likes playing on a winning team but I am not sure that means he absolutely wants to stay in Boston.
I honestly think Paille might get more money elsewhere, and I am not certain that they will resign him. I figure Thornton will stay here as long as they offer him a contract. I know he loves the city and it is clear the city loves him.
Campbell, Paille. Thornton and Kelly have received contract offers already (see post #7 above for the thread discussing their offers).
Campbell, Paille. Thornton and Kelly have received contract offers already (see post #7 above for the thread discussing their offers).
Contract offers and looking for higher pay elsewhere are two different things.
I think Campbell, Paille and Kelly all may actually see what the market will pay them, but I am pretty sure as long as the team offers Thornton a contract he is likely going to stay in Boston. I figure the team will resign Thornton, but one or two of the other three are going to hit the UFA market and end up elsewhere.
At the beginning of the year I was a proponent of re-signing Campbell but now I'm not so sure. His play and production was OK--but not great--until late January where it seems to have nosedived.
LAST 19 GAMES:
ZERO Goals
ZERO Assists
MINUS 10
No hits registered in 8 of 19 games
No shots registered in 10 of 19 games
Faceoff percentage under 45%
One fight (after 19 games with none)
Averaging roughly 13 mins per game in this timeperiod.
Kind of disappointing. I was hoping he would build off of his 13 goal 32 point season last year. He's been given decent opportunity to do so. His linemates have mostly outplayed/outhustled him all year so he's not really being anchored. Hopefully he will turn it around in the stretch drive/playoffs.
In the meantime...
Is his play/production worthy of any criticism? He seems to escape it even in tough times when his numbers are as bad or worse than others.
What do you think of his play this season?
Why do you want him back next season?
What should he get for a contract and/or What's the max amount you would offer him?
If you prefer to let him go, who do you replace him next season with and why?
He's been pretty disappointing this year. I like him but I don't think I would take him back as he's likely looking for a raise.
Agreed. Re-signing Kelly is a much bigger priority.
I think our 4th line needs to play much better in the def. zone, center position is a huge part of that. I appreciate Campbell's willingness to drop the gloves (until recently ) but we have enough guys who can do that.
Also have to think about replacing Thornton. I love the guy, last night he showed again why he's one of the bravest warriors in the league. But he's weak defensively, and I don't really want to see him fighting a dozen-plus times a year at age 35.
Agreed. Re-signing Kelly is a much bigger priority.
I think our 4th line needs to play much better in the def. zone, center position is a huge part of that. I appreciate Campbell's willingness to drop the gloves (until recently ) but we have enough guys who can do that.
Also have to think about replacing Thornton. I love the guy, last night he showed again why he's one of the bravest warriors in the league. But he's weak defensively, and I don't really want to see him fighting a dozen-plus times a year at age 35.
I'm not sure they will re-sign Kelly either, I sure wouldn't want to give that guy 3M, which is probably what he's looking for.
I think they will bring Thornton back and have Macdermid up for the season.
I still give him a 1 year deal, he should get another shot at a longer contract. Great 4th liner, he's slumped since late January, but hasn't the entire team slumped as well? Can't judge him on the past month and a half
I'm not sure they will re-sign Kelly either, I sure wouldn't want to give that guy 3M, which is probably what he's looking for.
I think they will bring Thornton back and have Macdermid up for the season.
I agree with this. For me Kelly is effective if he's the 8th or 9th most talented forward on your team. In a salary cap world, I really don't want to be paying that forward $3m. Especially if the potential exists to bring in a top notch forward this offseason.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like this.
I agree with this. For me Kelly is effective if he's the 8th or 9th most talented forward on your team. In a salary cap world, I really don't want to be paying that forward $3m. Especially if the potential exists to bring in a top notch forward this offseason.
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something like this.
) but we have enough guys who can do that.
