I'd prefer Campbell as well, and perhaps he's the veteran in that scenario.
That being said, I can see a situation where cup winning 4th line players like Paille and Campbell are going to want to be paid as 3rd liners. And a guy like Kelly is going to want 2nd line money.
Cant afford to keep everyone man. Gotta have some low budget guys.
And I disagree with anyone saying Kelly isnt about the money and uprooting family etc etc etc. Sure he, along with alot on this group, seem like great guys and love Boston. But Kelly has a chance to get his best contract of his career. And Im not sure any fan on here knows him well enough to say he will stay here for less money or just wants to win etc etc JMO. I see a team overpaying, 3m/yr, for him, and at that price Id say thanks for the memories but enjoy your new team.
As far as Campbell, love the guy, who wouldnt. But as ".500" as the team had been this New Year, hes been that much worse. And face it, hes a very good 4th liner, but a 4th liner nonetheless on this team. Unless hes relatively cheap, I say goodbye to him as well. I actually really like, in a short amount of time, what Ive seen from Mcdermind. Fought his 1st shift, plays hard, and hits EVERY chance he gets. Need some cheap guys like that, especially w making Rask an offer and possible run at Parise/Suter.
I can see Campbell going to the Rangers, if he decides not to stay with the Bruins. Don't know why I see him going to the Rangers though - perhaps because he grew up being with the team when he was younger?
And I disagree with anyone saying Kelly isnt about the money and uprooting family etc etc etc.
Not sure I agree. I really don't think Kelly is going to look for the biggest paying contract. I do think he is going to consider the team. Honestly if wasn't traded from Ottawa I could see him as being the hometown discount kind of guy. I don't think he wants to turn into a player who gets traded around a lot too. He may go elsewhere, but I am not convinced elsewhere is going to be based on the size of the contract alone. I wouldn't be at all shocked if he went back to Ottawa if Ottawa wanted him and I don't think he would demand high dollars from them either.
You think Paul Gaustad is going to take a pay cut after being traded for a first round pick, just to center our fourth line? Keep dreaming. The guy makes $2.5M as it is, and he's going to want to keep making that money, if not look for a raise.
You think Paul Gaustad is going to take a pay cut after being traded for a first round pick, just to center our fourth line? Keep dreaming. The guy makes $2.5M as it is, and he's going to want to keep making that money, if not look for a raise.
If Kelly walks, why can't Gaustad replace him? Money will be available with some players leaving. Campbell, Pailler and Kelly IMO aren't all coming back
If Kelly walks, why can't Gaustad replace him? Money will be available with some players leaving. Campbell, Pailler and Kelly IMO aren't all coming back
They aren't coming back because the cap won't allow them to come back. Campbell and Kelly have a combined cap hit between $3.2M and $3.3M. Gaustad makes $2.5M. Do you let two guys walk to have Gaustad center one of the bottom two lines for 75% of the total salary of Campbell and Kelly? Chia would never do it.
Cant afford to keep everyone man. Gotta have some low budget guys.
And I disagree with anyone saying Kelly isnt about the money and uprooting family etc etc etc. Sure he, along with alot on this group, seem like great guys and love Boston. But Kelly has a chance to get his best contract of his career. And Im not sure any fan on here knows him well enough to say he will stay here for less money or just wants to win etc etc JMO. I see a team overpaying, 3m/yr, for him, and at that price Id say thanks for the memories but enjoy your new team.
As far as Campbell, love the guy, who wouldnt. But as ".500" as the team had been this New Year, hes been that much worse. And face it, hes a very good 4th liner, but a 4th liner nonetheless on this team. Unless hes relatively cheap, I say goodbye to him as well. I actually really like, in a short amount of time, what Ive seen from Mcdermind. Fought his 1st shift, plays hard, and hits EVERY chance he gets. Need some cheap guys like that, especially w making Rask an offer and possible run at Parise/Suter.
I know that, but I don't think he will get much of a raise if any. I have a funny feeling that Paille walks too
i really want Campbell back. he is such a great fourth line center. sometimes people don't realize how good we have it with him. it might be hard to keep him, but i hope they try their hardest. he is a very solid player and brings a lot of heart and character to our team. he is the guy that drives that fourth line.
if he were to leave, however, who would be his possible replacement?
Well Im hoping one or more of Spooner, Knight, Caron, MacDermid will force themselves onto the roster next season. Which means it probably won't be so bad if Paille or Campbell walk via UFA. I like both of them, love their intensity, but the Bruins have plenty of PK'ers in their stable who are more than capable of holding down the fort.
I think he would really improve the faceoff percentage in Providence.
He wouldn't contribute much offensively and his TOI would be low, but how much are the Bruins really leaning on Campbell for anything beyond faceoffs and blocked shots?
One-year, 700k contract, why not?
If he doesnt work out, he'll clear waivers and do well in Providence.
as much as brian rolston isnt mr wonderful anymore... i bet if he was signed to a million dollar contract {or less} that he would be fine as a 4th line guy
i think dominek moore normally signs for around a million too
i like campbell... and i dont measure his value by the goals he scores since he is a 4th line guy. he has proven he can step up when needed and outplay other 4th lines. if he is willing to sign for 4th line money then i see no reason at all not to bring him back
but its all about paying 4th line money to 4th line players... and 3rd line money to 3rd line players... cause sooner or later our young 1st/2nd liners are going to reach ufa age and get huge raises. we need to have the room to keep the guys that actually arent easily replacable.
if a 4th line guy had a ton of leadership/experience id probably pay a premium for him... but campbell doesnt right? and neither does paille...
if we ended up with a 4th line of caron/rolston/macdermid next year for around 3 mill instead of thorton/campbell/paille for 4.5 mill then id definitely make the change cause that extra 1.5 mill actually does add up when the cap gets maxed out
I Think it is imperative to sign Kelly. Caron's recent success I believe in part to playing with Kelly. If retaining Kelly means having to lose Campbell for salary cap reasons then that is the direction I would go. Kelly brings a ton to the table.
Ive been saying it for awhile.. I think he kind of escapes flak because he was on the Cup winning team. Whereas Pouliot gets a lot of hate for performing better. If Campbell wants a significant raise, let him go. Plenty of guys in the system that can fill in. We dont even need another center, even a winger. We have so many Centers on the wing right now.
If it saves us more money to go after a big UFA this summer Im down
I Think it is imperative to sign Kelly. Caron's recent success I believe in part to playing with Kelly. If retaining Kelly means having to lose Campbell for salary cap reasons then that is the direction I would go. Kelly brings a ton to the table.
I agree. Kelly is the key player here. He is the best bottom 6 player in Boston and is more versatile than the others.
I'm happy if they all re-sign, but if that is not possible the Bruins should pay Kelly the market rate and move some of the others.
I Think it is imperative to sign Kelly. Caron's recent success I believe in part to playing with Kelly. If retaining Kelly means having to lose Campbell for salary cap reasons then that is the direction I would go. Kelly brings a ton to the table.
yup, I love Soupy, but I have a huge amount of time for Kelly, a far more difficult guy to replace IMO
