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03-07-2012, 07:42 PM
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As per club policy, financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

that confirms the KGB thread!
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Gauthier is spying on this thread right now!

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Beaulieu and Kristo do not have to sign until 2013...but I would like to see them both sign. I think it is time to turn pro for them.
Pateryn should also be signing once his season is done.

Pretty scary how many new faces could be in Hamilton next year, will be a very young team. You have to wonder if they need some veteran leadership:

F: Leblanc, Engqvist, Gallagher, Kristo, Bournival, Holland, Palushaj, Naatinen, Fortier, Dumont, Avtsin, Schultz, Conboy
D: Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, Pateryn, Nash, St. Denis

I almost wonder if Beaulieu is going to remain in the Q just because of all the rookies on defense. I think that would be a waste of a year for him.
Beaulieu will not remain in the Q. He will be in the NHL before the end of his second year pro, imo.

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His contract starts for 2012-13, not counting right now.
well that makes sense, thanks

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Both of his linemates are only about 10 behind him in assists, yet they both have twice as many goals as him. I'd love for him to turn out to be something, 'cause that would certainly save the Cammy-Bourque deal, but I suspect those two overagers on that line (and Zachary Yuen on the blueline) are doing a LOT to make Holland look much better than he is. As long as he turns out to be good enough to contribute substantially somehow, I guess it doesn't matter.

Hopefully added motivation to put on some pounds and strength, because if he doesn't he's going to get destroyed, even in "just" the AHL. Gonna need to play with people who can actually finish chances, that's for sure, 'cause I suspect he won't be creating too many for himself at the pro (i.e. men's) level.
Save it? At the very worse it's even for us.

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03-07-2012, 08:16 PM
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Cammalleri at 6 million $ is an outrage. One dimensional player and largely a PP specialist. Loved him in the playoffs though. Still, what good is playing well in the playoffs if you cant help your team GET to the playoffs.

Holland will fit in nicely with our revamping of the Bulldogs.

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We sure might have a thriving bunch of youngsters in Hamilton next year. With proper grooming, we might be back on our feet next year and competitive in 2-3 years

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Both of his linemates are only about 10 behind him in assists, yet they both have twice as many goals as him. .
Holland has only been consitintly skating on a line with Shinnimin and Holland for the past month. Before that he was on a line with Fesser. Also the Americans play five forwards on the power play quite abit so that accounts for some of the assists.

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Why do people make a big deal that we signed one of our draft picks?

Have many players actually turn down an offer from the team that drafted him?

I can only recall Erixon who didn't want to sign with Calgary, is there alot more?

Seems like just a formality if the player is wanted by the team that drafted him.

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Why do people make a big deal that we signed one of our draft picks?

Have many players actually turn down an offer from the team that drafted him?

I can only recall Erixon who didn't want to sign with Calgary, is there alot more?

Seems like just a formality if the player is wanted by the team that drafted him.
Tell that to David Fischer

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03-07-2012, 10:02 PM
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Beautiful. Beaulieu is left! And so is Kristo

Hamilton will be fun to watch with Kristo, Ellis, Tinordi, Holland, Beaulieu and Gallagher.
Is Kristo allowed to sign during the NCAA to join the teams in the playoffs? Or does he have to wait until the NCAA season is done, and by then he won't be able to be on the list the bulldogs have to submit?

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Is Kristo allowed to sign during the NCAA to join the teams in the playoffs? Or does he have to wait until the NCAA season is done, and by then he won't be able to be on the list the bulldogs have to submit?
The list is already submit, but Kristo is a college player, so once his NCAA season is over, he can sign an amateur tryout contract and he can play with no restrictions, recall/injury/suspension emergency conditions don't apply to him.

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Pateryn next ?

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Why do people make a big deal that we signed one of our draft picks?

Have many players actually turn down an offer from the team that drafted him?

I can only recall Erixon who didn't want to sign with Calgary, is there alot more?

Seems like just a formality if the player is wanted by the team that drafted him.
actually..Holland had troubles signing his ELC with Calgary

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Holland has only been consitintly skating on a line with Shinnimin and Holland for the past month. Before that he was on a line with Fesser. Also the Americans play five forwards on the power play quite abit so that accounts for some of the assists.
Thanks for the info, I was actually wondering about that. It looks like the Americans have a good team this year with 3 players in the top 10 of scoring.

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Why do people make a big deal that we signed one of our draft picks?

Have many players actually turn down an offer from the team that drafted him?

I can only recall Erixon who didn't want to sign with Calgary, is there alot more?

Seems like just a formality if the player is wanted by the team that drafted him.
That's the reason it gets discussed. Many drafted players are not signed by their clubs, so the fact that a drafted player signs a contract means that player may have a future.

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Beaulieu and Kristo do not have to sign until 2013...but I would like to see them both sign. I think it is time to turn pro for them.
Pateryn should also be signing once his season is done.

Pretty scary how many new faces could be in Hamilton next year, will be a very young team. You have to wonder if they need some veteran leadership:

F: Leblanc, Engqvist, Gallagher, Kristo, Bournival, Holland, Palushaj, Naatinen, Fortier, Dumont, Avtsin, Schultz, Conboy
D: Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, Pateryn, Nash, St. Denis

I almost wonder if Beaulieu is going to remain in the Q just because of all the rookies on defense. I think that would be a waste of a year for him.
actually kristo needs to be signed by june 1st or the habs lose his rights

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actually kristo needs to be signed by june 1st or the habs lose his rights
August 15, 2013 actually.

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Not sure why it's a surprise for some. The guy is lights out in his league. And that's about the only good news so far in the Cammy deal. Yeah, Gauthier acknowledged it. Good job, give him a 5-year extension for that bold move....

Maybe people will realize that you need to be god damn awful to not sign an entry-level contract. And even then, we have seen bad players receive a contract offer anyway. So the real question mark are whether Kishel and Westin will receive an offer. 'Cause we all know that Pateryn will receive one. And will Kristo play his senior year.

Congrats to the kid.

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The main reason calgary was willing to trade him in the Cammy deal was because they were having a hard time signing him. He was looking for 2nd round money and they were only offering a 6th or 7th round contract.

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Both of his linemates are only about 10 behind him in assists, yet they both have twice as many goals as him. I'd love for him to turn out to be something, 'cause that would certainly save the Cammy-Bourque deal, but I suspect those two overagers on that line (and Zachary Yuen on the blueline) are doing a LOT to make Holland look much better than he is. As long as he turns out to be good enough to contribute substantially somehow, I guess it doesn't matter.

Hopefully added motivation to put on some pounds and strength, because if he doesn't he's going to get destroyed, even in "just" the AHL. Gonna need to play with people who can actually finish chances, that's for sure, 'cause I suspect he won't be creating too many for himself at the pro (i.e. men's) level.
Same thing could have been said about Desharnais not that long ago

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Who's left? Beaulieu and Tords?
http://www.habprospects.com/modules....rticle&sid=175

minus Holland of course. Beaulieu they can sign whenever, Pateryn should be signed when Michigan's season is over (they have a good shot at going all the way this year so it could be a little while before his season is over)

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Wow, he needs 3 more assists to become the first WHL player in 15 years to get 80 assists.
1 more after last night

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tinordi i thought signed already
Tinordi is signed

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If they move Leblanc to centre, a Kristo-Leblanc-Holland line would be fun to watch next season in Hamilton, assuming Leblanc doesn't earn a spot on Montreal.
I could see Leblanc making the Habs full time and I assume they will keep him on the wing unless he fills in at center for injuries.

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Is Kristo allowed to sign during the NCAA to join the teams in the playoffs? Or does he have to wait until the NCAA season is done, and by then he won't be able to be on the list the bulldogs have to submit?
No, once he signs an NHL contract he can no longer play in the NCAA. Once his season is done, if he wants to turn pro this year he then can sign a contract. But he can also opt out of signing with the Habs outright if he wants and can become a UFA.

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Pateryn next ?
Likely so unless they sign Beaulieu sooner since Pateryn could be still playing in late April so they can't sign him until Michigan's season is over. But I can't see them not signing him.

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actually kristo needs to be signed by june 1st or the habs lose his rights
NCAA players never have to be signed by the June 1st deadline. That is for CHLers and Euro league draft picks. For the NCAA guys it's always August 15th.

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I can see a future 3rd line of the following player:

Geoffrion - Leblanc - Holland

Gallagher in my opinion can be a 2nd line right winger and Leblanc should be a centre sooner than later in this league, especially since I see Eller as a 2nd line centre in the future.

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Holland is one of those players who can sometimes go unnoticed but he can do it all. He sees the ice well, can set up teammates, will score the big goal and can shut-down the opposition's best players. He played a big role this season on the team's penalty killing unit and at times produced star games when his team seemed to need it. Holland needs to add more muscle mass to his thin frame while continuing his improvement of his two-way game to play at the professional level.

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