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04-20-2012, 04:28 AM
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Surprised John Rocker didn't include JT Brown in the deal.

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It doesn't matter what you want...
Van wants to get rid of Ballard's contract and they will throw him into any Schneider trade.
And they are going to need to replace Hodgson and CC will do that.
We can get goaltending solutions elsewhere.

And we need to replace Marty when he retires, CC will do that. And well what do you know, we have him already so why not keep him?

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04-20-2012, 09:35 AM
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We can get goaltending solutions elsewhere.

And we need to replace Marty when he retires, CC will do that. And well what do you know, we have him already so why not keep him?
Saying CC will replace MSL is too easy a dismissal. As we've seen from the Ryan Shannon experiment, not just anyone can become Marty 2.0.

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Saying CC will replace MSL is too easy a dismissal. As we've seen from the Ryan Shannon experiment, not just anyone can become Marty 2.0.
Who said Shannon was going to replace MSL? CC is killing it this year and looks like could be a stud, but if he can bring back a Schneider I'd do it. We have other young wingers so it wouldn't be a huge loss. If Van would take a CC + Det 1st + MAB for Schneider + Ballard I'd do it. Ballard's contract is awful, but if we can get Ohlund to retire the cap hit isn't much more and he can play top 4 minutes so won't need to sign a UFA.

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It doesn't matter what we want

Now I remember why the Vancouver fanbase was obnoxious as ****.

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In the end it might cost us (Trevor) Smith + something nice, so we'll see.

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Any thought on whether or not Lu's play may raise in Tampa due to not being threatened daily?
LOLuongo playing better because of pressure?


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I don't see Luongo as a possibility because if Stammer only got a 5-year deal, I don't see SFY biting on an existing contract with another 10 years left on it.

Has there ever been a 10+ year contract where there wasn't a later sense of regret?

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I don't see Luongo as a possibility because if Stammer only got a 5-year deal, I don't see SFY biting on an existing contract with another 10 years left on it.

Has there ever been a 10+ year contract where there wasn't a later sense of regret?
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Why would anyone think that we would even consider Luongo? That's preposterous, ridiculous and absurd all rolled into one. The guy's only got a couple years left and a ton of years on a stupid contract.....I'd rather have Tim Thomas or Brodeur if I wanted an aging goalie. Heck, even Vokoun if it was just a patch but right now we need someone good, young and one with a future.

Sounds like the Kaberle crap all over again.....

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04-21-2012, 10:42 AM
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Why would anyone think that we would even consider Luongo? That's preposterous, ridiculous and absurd all rolled into one. The guy's only got a couple years left and a ton of years on a stupid contract.....I'd rather have Tim Thomas or Brodeur if I wanted an aging goalie. Heck, even Vokoun if it was just a patch but right now we need someone good, young and one with a future.

Sounds like the Kaberle crap all over again.....
I don't think we go after him either. Too many years on that contract. Only goalie we would want from that team is Schneider but that isn't happening. I think SFY goes is a different direction than Luongo.

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04-21-2012, 01:38 PM
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I don't think we go after him either. Too many years on that contract. Only goalie we would want from that team is Schneider but that isn't happening. I think SFY goes is a different direction than Luongo.
No way, its all but finished! And Vancouver will get whatever they want!

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It doesn't matter what we want

Now I remember why the Vancouver fanbase was obnoxious as ****.
I just laughed when I read that. I mean how ****ing self-righteous can you possibly be?

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I know you guys want Schneider badly and Canucks fans want to get rid of Luongo.

But let's all be realistic about this.....

At this point, Vancouver is almost certain to go with Cory for the future. It just makes too much sense given the age difference between the two goalies and how toxic and polarizing Luongo has become to the fans in Vancouver.

Vancouver will then try to trade Luongo. Yzerman is probably not the type of GM willing to take on that kind of contract.

Hence, he'll try and work out a deal for a goalie like Bernier instead and probably succeed.

Luongo, meanwhile, will probably end up a Leaf in exchange for draft picks/prospects as well as a bad contract like Komisarek (which they'll then bury in the minors). This makes the most sense. Nonis has a history with Luongo and Burke is desperate to make the playoffs in order to save his job, bad contract be damned.

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I know you guys want Schneider badly and Canucks fans want to get rid of Luongo.

But let's all be realistic about this.....

At this point, Vancouver is almost certain to go with Cory for the future. It just makes too much sense given the age difference between the two goalies and how toxic and polarizing Luongo has become to the fans in Vancouver.

Vancouver will then try to trade Luongo. Yzerman is probably not the type of GM willing to take on that kind of contract.

Hence, he'll try and work out a deal for a goalie like Bernier instead and probably succeed.

Luongo, meanwhile, will probably end up a Leaf in exchange for draft picks/prospects as well as a bad contract like Komisarek (which they'll then bury in the minors). This makes the most sense. Nonis has a history with Luongo and Burke is desperate to make the playoffs in order to save his job, bad contract be damned.
Tampa will not get Bernier without overpayment. It is going to be Brett Connolly and Detroit 1st at least.

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Tampa will not get Bernier without overpayment. It is going to be Brett Connolly and Detroit 1st at least.
and Yzerman hangs up. Too much for Bernier, he played like 16 games this year, Connolly alone is big overpayment. I prefer a good goalie like Kipper or Thomas for the next 2 years, then bring up Tokarski or some other goalie that we drafted.
But I think TB will sign Harding or Vokoun for let's say 3-4year deal enough to develop the G prospects, and in the meantime get us a chance to win

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Tampa will not get Bernier without overpayment. It is going to be Brett Connolly and Detroit 1st at least.
If we're trading Connolly + 1st for Bernier, Voynov or Forbort are coming back

If that's not the case... we're better off trading for Thomas or signing Harding or Vokoun

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and Yzerman hangs up. Too much for Bernier, he played like 16 games this year, Connolly alone is big overpayment. I prefer a good goalie like Kipper or Thomas for the next 2 years, then bring up Tokarski or some other goalie that we drafted.
But I think TB will sign Harding or Vokoun for let's say 3-4year deal enough to develop the G prospects, and in the meantime get us a chance to win
We don't need Thomas, he's almost 40 and doesn't have much left. We tried that for a season with Roloson and failed. Bernier will not cost Connolly + Det 1st. They tried to trade him to Columbus instead of their 1st in a fairly weak class. I think Det 1st + Palat/Labrie would work. We can also try to deal with Minn 10th + 37th + 4th for 7th UFA rights to Harding. It won't be Luongo, Schneider or Thomas. Maybe Vokoun as UFA.

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We don't need Thomas, he's almost 40 and doesn't have much left. We tried that for a season with Roloson and failed. Bernier will not cost Connolly + Det 1st. They tried to trade him to Columbus instead of their 1st in a fairly weak class. I think Det 1st + Palat/Labrie would work. We can also try to deal with Minn 10th + 37th + 4th for 7th UFA rights to Harding. It won't be Luongo, Schneider or Thomas. Maybe Vokoun as UFA.
replace the 37th with 1-2 depth guys like Labrie and Tyrell or with Bergeron and you have a deal - something like that:
TB: rights to Harding and 7th overall pick
Minn: 10th overall, 4th round pick, Bergeron or {Tyrell and Labrie}

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If we're trading Connolly + 1st for Bernier, Voynov or Forbort are coming back

If that's not the case... we're better off trading for Thomas or signing Harding or Vokoun
Let me remind you that Tampa needs goalie in the worth way possible and Kings have no reason to trade him without overpayment.

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Let me remind you that Tampa needs goalie in the worth way possible and Kings have no reason to trade him without overpayment.
Except for cap space and scoring help, those scoring totals are dismal.

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Let me remind you that Tampa needs goalie in the worth way possible and Kings have no reason to trade him without overpayment.
Tampa GA/G 30th

L.A G/G 29th

So if Tampa needs a goalie in the worst way possible. Does LA not need scoring in the worst way possible, or does that one spot make all the difference?

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Except for cap space and scoring help, those scoring totals are dismal.
You need goalie more then we need scoring help. We just traded for Carter.
Cap space for Bernier is 975k. What are you talking about?
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For scoring help we will be asking for Connolly and not for your bottom six players or our former players.

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You need goalie more then we need scoring help. We just traded for Carter.
Cap space for Bernier is 975k. What are you talking about?
I'm talking about Quick needing a new contract ~5m you would hope, hes well worth 7m. Carter hasn't really shown those old flashes of production so I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket yet.

Only kicker about the whole situation was that Bernier was told he wouldn't be traded until Quick got a contract and I don't see DL budging from that.

EDIT: Saw your edit and thats fine, nobody here is going to tell you to take the Tom Pyatts of the team or anything for a goaltender. We're not Vancouver fans. I'd fully expect Connolly going the other way.

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