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lol did that canuck fan just say gunnarsson is worth a 7th round pick?
No he said Gunnarsson was a 7th round draft pick, which is true.
I think even Canucks fans would agree he's established himself as a Top 4 D-man, currently playing on the top pairing with Phaneuf however on the Canucks he would be battling Ballard for the #3 LD, and may even end up a healthy scratch.
If Leafs believe that schneider has #1 poetential (which he does). Leafs can just sign him to an offer sheet 4-5M a year. What will Van do? Not a damn thing.
Accept value similar to the picks + prospects we are interested in now?
The proposals are pretty terrible, but I just gotta say it's funny to see some Canuck fans say Schenn has very low value, but in other threads say Ballard has a ton of value.
I'm just putting this out there... Ballard is a top 4 d-man in Toronto, Schenn is an occasional healthy scratch.
If i were Vanc, the are only 2 things in Tor that they would even consider moving that I'd be interested in & they are Kadri and they Leafs first
Scheider for Kadri straight up or
Scheider + 1st for Leafs 1st + 3rd
Those are two deals that should interest the Canucks, get the Leafs the goalie they need, and are pretty close in value. Of course I expect many Leaf homers to object but that's ok.
lol, I'm sure you'll get the homer Canuck fans more resistant than Leaf fans. If we can secure a decent winger via UFA, I'd be fine to do the Kadri for Schneider deal.
But I don't think you'll see the Leafs 1st on the table this year for Schneider. It's gettin close to top 5 now.
toronto would have made the playoffs this year for sure if they had schneider. scheider/reimer combo could work nicely. too bad it really looked like TO would make it until goaltending broke down. in the offseason burke really needs to think about this goaltending situation.
Haha Leaf fans have too much faith in free agents. Who the hell lets a number 1 center or good starting goalie walk?
And for some of you saying Vokoun, give your head a shake. The man took a huge discount to play in Washington because he thought he was going to win the cup, why would he play in Toronto?
If Tor or Van were to move Schenn or Schneider it would have to be for something considerable that would change 100% change the team.
Toronto would be unsure Schneider could handle full-time duties. I just don't see why Toronto would want a Nabakov or a Vokoun? Temporary patches are bad for rebuilding teams. Schneider would be great for Toronto right now, but I do understand it wouldn't be worth the cost.
Van would be unsure how Schenn would play as he has been struggling this season. Great potential, but we don't know if he can play to that top potential. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Schenn, just not for the cost of Schneider.
If I were Burke, I would keep Schenn, and look at other avenues of getting a #1C. Kulemin, Kadri, 1st, Colborne, MacArthur, you would somehow have to find a team in need of depth in exchange for their #1C. Not sure those players would combine to get the type of quality #1C Toronto is looking for. Good pieces, just don't think the type of #1C toronto needs is availble for a mix of those assets.
I do like Schenn but I do doubt he can succeed in Vancouvers system, his foot speed and break out pass just doesn't match Vancouvers system well at all.
If Tor or Van were to move Schenn or Schneider it would have to be for something considerable that would change 100% change the team.
Toronto would be unsure Schneider could handle full-time duties. I just don't see why Toronto would want a Nabakov or a Vokoun? Temporary patches are bad for rebuilding teams. Schneider would be great for Toronto right now, but I do understand it wouldn't be worth the cost.
Van would be unsure how Schenn would play as he has been struggling this season. Great potential, but we don't know if he can play to that top potential. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Schenn, just not for the cost of Schneider.
If I were Burke, I would keep Schenn, and look at other avenues of getting a #1C. Kulemin, Kadri, 1st, Colborne, MacArthur, you would somehow have to find a team in need of depth in exchange for their #1C. Not sure those players would combine to get the type of quality #1C Toronto is looking for. Good pieces, just don't think the type of #1C toronto needs is availble for a mix of those assets.
I agree with you. 1st step for the Leafs is to see what happens at the draft in terms of trades and who they draft. But the focus has to be on trading for a #1 center, whether there is one available or not, we don't know. Their other focus is bigger wingers who can hit/grind like Ott.
Then they should look at free agency, see what goalie they could get and what forwards or defenceman they could get. They should only go big up front on guys like Parise, or Suter on the backend.
Then depending on how things play out, they can look at trading for Schneider, but it might be too late. If the Leafs can get Suter for free, then Schenn is expendable. If they can get Parise for free, MacA and/or Kadri are expendable.
Schneider would be a nice pick-up, but not the #1 priority.
I agree with you. 1st step for the Leafs is to see what happens at the draft in terms of trades and who they draft. But the focus has to be on trading for a #1 center, whether there is one available or not, we don't know. Their other focus is bigger wingers who can hit/grind like Ott.
Then they should look at free agency, see what goalie they could get and what forwards or defenceman they could get. They should only go big up front on guys like Parise, or Suter on the backend.
Then depending on how things play out, they can look at trading for Schneider, but it might be too late. If the Leafs can get Suter for free, then Schenn is expendable. If they can get Parise for free, MacA and/or Kadri are expendable.
Schneider would be a nice pick-up, but not the #1 priority.
I do like Schenn but I do doubt he can succeed in Vancouvers system, his foot speed and break out pass just doesn't match Vancouvers system well at all.
Nope, Phaneuf, Gunnarsson, Liles, and Gardiner are all better.
I think Ballard is being severely underrated becase he plays behind Edler and Hamhuis on the left side both ES and on the PP.
Other than his time in Vancouver, Ballard has averaged putting up points in the mid-30s before and his last year in Florida he led the team in blocked shots and hits. The only issue is he is behind two guys that would both be Toronto's best defenseman. Look at his play since November 13th, he's been a plus player (+11) on the bottom pairing usually carrying Rome or Tanev and his partner's Corsi always goes up when he's on the ice vs when they are paired with the other bottom pairing guys.
He's severely underrated and certainly better than Schenn.
Value's not horrendous. It's "ok".....but no thanks. I'd keep Kessel. Thing is, our team is full of 2nd/3rd liners as is with 2 already unproven goalies. We don't want to trade our only legit 1st line player for 2 more 2nd liners and a relatively unproven backup.
Nah. Booth isn't going anywhere, he's looking awesome with Higgins and Kesler. Burrows is a heart and soul guy of Vancouver, and is a massive fan favourite in Vancouver, and bringing in a guy like Kessel is meh. He scores lots of goals, but his defense, ugh. We can get a nice player for Schneider alone. May not even need another top 6 forward if Kassian is able to play top 6 minutes next season.
If Leafs believe that schneider has #1 poetential (which he does). Leafs can just sign him to an offer sheet 4-5M a year. What will Van do? Not a damn thing.
Why would they given Toronto just let Tampa trade for him before the deadline. Pretty sure Tampa match.
