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03-08-2012, 09:45 PM
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Burke has an anti-bullying campaign, and gave speeches on this very topic. Why you would call him a bully, when he is campaigning against it, is insane. Just as the many previous posts stating Burke hates the media, yet is always available to them. Nothing wrong with disliking Burke, but completely making things up and lying as some have done in this thread is a joke.
It is a FACT that he did try and "bully" Ron and Don out, using his new ownership as leverage. This was done in order to censor their opinion and/or control what was said about his team publicly. We are all hearing that (as in USA politics) the media is talking about "access" as an issue with the Leafs. Sounds like "access" come at a cost of what you say?? The post is stating the hypocrisy of the fact BB is campaigning about bulling while behaving like one himself, you are the one who wont face facts.

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This is not well said. Cherry has forgotten more about hockey than most of the wana be's on this message board will EVER KNOW.

Any of you champs who think anyone here is saying it's okay for Cherry to have an opinion but not Burke need to have your head examined. What Cherry had was an opinion, what Burke did was slimy.

If it were an eye for an eye, Burke would be out on his fat ass right now on the way to the EI office right along with his little pal Wilson, because if Don went to his bosses like a little baby as Burke did to him, he'd be gone.

Cherry dealt with it like a man, in as face to face a format as humanly possible. You don't like it? Don't tune it. Where I'm from, if you have something to say to somebody, you don't go running to their mommy and daddy trying to get them grounded. Pretty sure Cherry see's it the exact same way.
Well put Sir.

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Burke has an anti-bullying campaign, and gave speeches on this very topic. Why you would call him a bully, when he is campaigning against it, is insane. Just as the many previous posts stating Burke hates the media, yet is always available to them. Nothing wrong with disliking Burke, but completely making things up and lying as some have done in this thread is a joke.
It is kind of ironic for a bully to come out against bullying. But again, Burke gets away with it. With some.

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The more Burke yaps, the more he contradicts himself.

The way he's going, his contract will be up before he ever makes the playoffs.

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It is a FACT that he did try and "bully" Ron and Don out, using his new ownership as leverage. This was done in order to censor their opinion and/or control what was said about his team publicly. We are all hearing that (as in USA politics) the media is talking about "access" as an issue with the Leafs. Sounds like "access" come at a cost of what you say?? The post is stating the hypocrisy of the fact BB is campaigning about bulling while behaving like one himself, you are the one who wont face facts.
Filing a formal complaint against someone is bullying? He even asked to discuss it face to face. You're agenda is causing you to lose a grip on reality.

I'm pretty sure his complaint was regarding remarks made about his coach and not about his team. I'm ashamed at Leaf fans who seem to be too spineless to defend their friend/employee, when in position to do so. I'm sorry but if anybody falsely accused my friend of being unpatriotic and compared him to Napolean, in front of millions of people, you're damn right I would stick up for them, given the chance. I hope those close to you watch their backs and carry plenty of Vaseline.

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03-09-2012, 12:36 AM
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Filing a formal complaint against someone is bullying? He even asked to discuss it face to face. You're agenda is causing you to lose a grip on reality.

I'm pretty sure his complaint was regarding remarks made about his coach and not about his team. I'm ashamed at Leaf fans who seem to be too spineless to defend their friend/employee, when in position to do so. I'm sorry but if anybody falsely accused my friend of being unpatriotic and compared him to Napolean, in front of millions of people, you're damn right I would stick up for them, given the chance. I hope those close to you watch their backs and carry plenty of Vaseline.
I have to agree, Cherry shouldn't of called out Wilson like that, and Burke was just sticking up for him. Cherry had no reason or facts to back up Wilson for being unpatriotic, it's sort of disgusting thinking about humiliating someone like that, without hearing Wilson's side of things.

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I have to agree, Cherry shouldn't of called out Wilson like that, and Burke was just sticking up for him. Cherry had no reason or facts to back up Wilson for being unpatriotic, it's sort of disgusting thinking about humiliating someone like that, without hearing Wilson's side of things.
If you ask me you and post above are off point. The question is not if BB should have defended RW, it's the method he used. His method? Corporate leverage, not used to punish and/or get an apology but to get him and Ron off the air. I believe we are seeing attempts at censorship here. Just let me ask how many people with "controversial" opinions are on the air in this country? I disagree with Don as much as most anybody on here, but he is entertaining none the less and by no means dangerous.

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03-09-2012, 01:52 AM
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If you ask me you and post above are off point. The question is not if BB should have defended RW, it's the method he used. His method? Corporate leverage, not used to punish and/or get an apology but to get him and Ron off the air. I believe we are seeing attempts at censorship here. Just let me ask how many people with "controversial" opinions are on the air in this country? I disagree with Don as much as most anybody on here, but he is entertaining none the less and by no means dangerous.
The post I quoted from you had false information. I corrected that. Stating that Burke was behaving like a bully is just hyperbole and irresponsible. If Burke going through proper channels in order to get Cherry to cut out the personal attacks is bullying, then I suggest you invest in a dictionary. These weren't controversial opinions they were personal attacks. I don't see how you can't distinguish the two.

I have no clue what the access rant was about as it was poorly constructed and read as jibberish.

I also have not seen any evidence that Burke was trying to get them off the air. Just more exaggeration on your part to make your point sound better. This is in no way is censorship. More hyperbole. I don't think Burke is being unreasonable if he wants Cherry to stop calling his coach unpatriotic and Napolean.

BTW, nothing personal as I usually enjoy your posts but this was a fail on your part, IMO. Plus I actually love Don Cherry as long as he sticks to talking hockey and keeps politics out of it. I also loved the rant on Saturday. Classic Cherry.

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This is the way Burkie has always played. I'm just surprised it took him so long to unwind in Toronto. In Vancouver Burkie had no friends in the media and loads of enemies. He actually was successful in getting Dan Russell's long running Sportstalk show taken off the radio for a year after threatening his bosses with the loss of the Canucks radio broadcast rights. Got John Connors fired from a radio job as well after whining to his bosses; even hated the "nice guy" types like Donny Taylor(everybody loves Donny in Vancouver except apparently Burkie lol)the best story was the one where he got his wife, Jennifer Mather to call David Pratt and Donny Taylor on air and put them on blast for like twenty minutes. Comedy gold!!

Burkie is a pretty sharp guy but he is not suited temperamentally for these GM jobs he seems to covet.

Anyway, good luck fellas!!

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03-09-2012, 02:33 AM
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I like Burke but I lost some respect for him after the Don Cherry incident.

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It is a FACT that he did try and "bully" Ron and Don out, using his new ownership as leverage. This was done in order to censor their opinion and/or control what was said about his team publicly. We are all hearing that (as in USA politics) the media is talking about "access" as an issue with the Leafs. Sounds like "access" come at a cost of what you say?? The post is stating the hypocrisy of the fact BB is campaigning about bulling while behaving like one himself, you are the one who wont face facts.
Do you think media should be held to a standard of professionalism?

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I have no respect left for Burke. If he can't handle seven minutes once a week of a 78 year old man on a rant then he should pack his bags and head back to the States. If Steve Yzerman can run Tampa Bay then Gilmour can run Toronto.

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I have no respect left for Burke. If he can't handle seven minutes once a week of a 78 year old man on a rant then he should pack his bags and head back to the States. If Steve Yzerman can run Tampa Bay then Gilmour can run Toronto.
The funny thing is, Grapes loves the Leafs more than Burke...he was always giving it to Wilson, and left Burke alone, until just recently...Burkie is feeling the heat in TO...

As someone else mentioned, the Sens turnaround took less than 6 months, Burkie is almost 4 years, interesting, more Bryan Murray fodder there...

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It's funny how things outside a GM's control (like how the players play) is so reflective on the GM themself.

Bryan Murray himself said this year was supposed to be a rebuilding year - in short, he didn't think he had a playoff team, and was interested in getting a high draft pick. Now, all of a sudden, because that hasn't happened, he looks like a genius?

Same thing with Steve Yzerman. Last year people wanted him to win GM of the year...this year people have been calling for his head for not upgrading their defense and goaltending.

It's burke's own fault that the expectations are so high; but let's be realistic. The sens rebuild certainly had an element of fluke in it and it may very well not last past this season. Ditto to florida.

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I have no respect left for Burke. If he can't handle seven minutes once a week of a 78 year old man on a rant then he should pack his bags and head back to the States. If Steve Yzerman can run Tampa Bay then Gilmour can run Toronto.
Oh, you think Doug Gilmour should be the GM? And how are the Frontenacs doing this year?

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Oh, you think Doug Gilmour should be the GM? And how are the Frontenacs doing this year?
I thinking they are drafting Tyler's younger brother, and Erie is getting Tayler's.

Who is Erie's GM, must be a new guy?

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Brian Burke is just a bully and he is frustrated that his BS doesnt fly with Cherry.

You can tell he knows he is failing based on his actions.

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It's funny how things outside a GM's control (like how the players play) is so reflective on the GM themself.
We seen the non-accountability played out here with so many excuses I'm not sure why they bother with a GM or coach anymore.

No one is ever at fault except the players on the ice, renders everyone else redundant.

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Brian Burke is just a bully and he is frustrated that his BS doesnt fly with Cherry.

You can tell he knows he is failing based on his actions.
This all arose because Don called Wilson out for being "anti-patriotic" based on a 10 second clip.

Had nothing to do with his competence as GM, and he's deflecting blame onto himself. Don't see how this is a bad thing.

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Can't believe this one is still going..

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This is the way Burkie has always played. I'm just surprised it took him so long to unwind in Toronto. In Vancouver Burkie had no friends in the media and loads of enemies. He actually was successful in getting Dan Russell's long running Sportstalk show taken off the radio for a year after threatening his bosses with the loss of the Canucks radio broadcast rights. Got John Connors fired from a radio job as well after whining to his bosses; even hated the "nice guy" types like Donny Taylor(everybody loves Donny in Vancouver except apparently Burkie lol)the best story was the one where he got his wife, Jennifer Mather to call David Pratt and Donny Taylor on air and put them on blast for like twenty minutes. Comedy gold!!

Burkie is a pretty sharp guy but he is not suited temperamentally for these GM jobs he seems to covet.

Anyway, good luck fellas!!

WTF is wrong with Bruke? What is he 5 years old??

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He loves to hear himself talk....I guess.

He hates the media and has stated his disdain for them many times.
Links please.

In your words he has stated it many times so it shouldn't be hard to find.

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I have to agree, Cherry shouldn't of called out Wilson like that, and Burke was just sticking up for him. Cherry had no reason or facts to back up Wilson for being unpatriotic, it's sort of disgusting thinking about humiliating someone like that, without hearing Wilson's side of things.
Yet people refuse to acknowledge that Cherry was bullying Wilson and Burke was sticking up for him.

Oh but I guess Burke's a bully cause one guy said he was trying to fire him even though his partner refuted it.

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Again, absolutely hilarious to see some idiots in here unable to seperate Burke as a person from Burke as a GM.

"Burke was in the wrong, he can't even make the playoffs!"

"Burke is a bully, learn to GM or ****!"

Burke's team struggling = Burke is wrong and Cherry is right. Unreal.

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Again, absolutely hilarious to see some idiots in here unable to seperate Burke as a person from Burke as a GM.

"Burke was in the wrong, he can't even make the playoffs!"

"Burke is a bully, learn to GM or ****!"

Burke's team struggling = Burke is wrong and Cherry is right. Unreal.
There's just a few people who don't like Burke, and are opposed to absolutely everything he does.

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