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03-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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I will educate you then......I am sure that Cherry has not call you and disclosed his reasons for all of this....but it is ok....oh wise one for you to make assumptions and attack anyone with a opinion contrary to your own.

If this whole incident is as it appears and Wilson failed to show the Canadian Soldiers the respect that they deserve then Wilson deserved everything that he got. IMHO The Canadian forces deserve our respect even if you do not believe they do!

Now as far as Burke goes he talks a good game about being a man and calls others gutless but not approaching Cherry before going behind his back and request that the CBC muzzle him or fire him ....is gutless or like Cherry has called others a little Puke!

I know that you will reply with a sarcastic remark as you are well know to do....but save your energy and this board that bandwidth and keep it to your self!
That's some painful reading right there.

Burke called Ron Wilson before he went to the CBC.

Ron Wilson said that Burke did not ask that they get fired.

Wilson's attitude toward the military can not be determined by a 5 second TV shot let alone that he "couldn't care less".

Cherry has given his reasons and none of them were because Burke or Wilson did anything wrong to him.

Don Cherry didn't say anything bad to either Burke or Wilson to their faces.

Cherry lied and said that Burke and Wilson only care about Americans.

Cherry should be careful of who he calls pukes, really embarrassed himself and the CBC last time.

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03-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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Cherry's job is to discuss hockey, not personally attack people, unless you are of the opinion taxpayer's money is being spent to purposefully employ someone to slander on their behalf?
Cherry's Bosses give him permission to speak about our Armed forces as seen on HNIC for years....you assertion that he is not to is false....Slander is not the case here now.....as the evidences is there for all to see....he did not respect Our Soldiers when everyone else was.....so it was a fact and you can not be held accountable for slander.

What are the defences to a defamation lawsuit?
If someone sues for defamation, the most common defences are:

* truth (known in law as "justification")
* absolute privilege
* qualified privilege
* fair comment
* responsible communication on matters of public interest

1. Truth or justification
A statement may hurt your reputation, but if it is true, anyone who says it has a valid defence if you sue them for defamation.

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I know that you will reply with a sarcastic remark as you are well know to do....but save your energy and this board that bandwidth and keep it to your self!
Are you suggesting Moose keep his opinions to himself rather than allowing him his freedom of expression? Nice one.

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That's some painful reading right there.

Burke called Ron Wilson before he went to the CBC.

Ron Wilson said that Burke did not ask that they get fired.

Wilson's attitude toward the military can not be determined by a 5 second TV shot let alone that he "couldn't care less".

Cherry has given his reasons and none of them were because Burke or Wilson did anything wrong to him.

Don Cherry didn't say anything bad to either Burke or Wilson to their faces.

Cherry lied and said that Burke and Wilson only care about Americans.

Cherry should be careful of who he calls pukes, really embarrassed himself and the CBC last time.
Burke Call Ron Wilson....before going to the CBC...really why?

Ok I will tick to the statement.

Burke called Ron but not Don as I stated....Ron and Don are on TV together but last time I checked do not live together.

Ron stated his opinion" He said that he did not think that Burke asked to get them fired" ....but it is only an opinion! Cherry stated that Burke asked for them to be fired....and I have heard nothing from Burke or the CBC to refute he claim.

Cherry said it in front of the world....he did not go to the Ownership team to ask them to fire Wilson.....he never hid.

How do you know that Cherry is wrong about his opinion that they Favor Americans? It appears that they do as the roster suggest that they do.

Cherry calls lots of people pukes....should he ....not in all cases. remember the kettle and the pot....Burke has called out the media, fellow GM's and many others....he has also demanded peoples jobs etc.....but you seem to have ignored all of this.

Wilson not showing respect for our Soldiers is horrible.....what is his excuse?

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Are you suggesting Moose keep his opinions to himself rather than allowing him his freedom of expression? Nice one.
Not at all, but his BS is tiring.....always thinking that others are not worthy of their opinions.....

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Wilson not showing respect for our Soldiers is horrible.....what is his excuse?
A) Did you watch Wilson throughout the ceremony?

B) Does everyone have to carry your belief system?

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Not at all, but his BS is tiring.....always thinking that others are not worthy of their opinions.....
What is your favourite post again: spin, something else, repeat?

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You apparently don't understand "freedom of speech" versus "defamation".
I see you are confused. Only defamation going on is when Burke hurls his insults, such as imbecile, stupid and idiot at the media. That's defamation.

Trying to silence Coaches corner by going to the CBC board because you don't like the fact Wilson didn't clap for the military. That is an attack on freedom of speech.

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I see you are confused. Only defamation going on is when Burke hurls his insults, such as imbecile, stupid and idiot at the media. That's defamation.

Trying to silence Coaches corner by going to the CBC board because you don't like the fact Wilson didn't clap for the military. That is an attack on freedom of speech.
Guess what? Anybody he attacks is free to respond, just like Burke is free to respond when his organization is personally attacked.

You may want to rethink your second paragraph.

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Burke called Ron Wilson before he went to the CBC.

Ron Wilson said that Burke did not ask that they get fired.
I assume you meant meant MacLean, not Wilson.

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Guess what? Anybody he attacks is free to respond, just like Burke is free to respond when his organization is personally attacked.
Yes freedom of speech.

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Burke Call Ron Wilson....before going to the CBC...really why?

Ok I will tick to the statement.

Burke called Ron but not Don as I stated....Ron and Don are on TV together but last time I checked do not live together.

Ron stated his opinion" He said that he did not think that Burke asked to get them fired" ....but it is only an opinion! Cherry stated that Burke asked for them to be fired....and I have heard nothing from Burke or the CBC to refute he claim.

Cherry said it in front of the world....he did not go to the Ownership team to ask them to fire Wilson.....he never hid.

How do you know that Cherry is wrong about his opinion that they Favor Americans? It appears that they do as the roster suggest that they do.

Cherry calls lots of people pukes....should he ....not in all cases. remember the kettle and the pot....Burke has called out the media, fellow GM's and many others....he has also demanded peoples jobs etc.....but you seem to have ignored all of this.

Wilson not showing respect for our Soldiers is horrible.....what is his excuse?
Love the logic here.

If burke calls something out uaing the media: media *****

If burke calls someone out in closed doors: coward.

Seems like a lose-lose to me.

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Love the logic here.

If burke calls something out uaing the media: media *****

If burke calls someone out in closed doors: coward.

Seems like a lose-lose to me.
Closed doors are fine. Behind the back is not.

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Closed doors are fine. Behind the back is not.
So since it's been dislcosed he approached people first, you're good with it then?

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So since it's been dislcosed he approached people first, you're good with it then?
Must've missed that part. Can you link me the article or interview detailing that he approached Cherry before he went to his bosses?

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I see you are confused. Only defamation going on is when Burke hurls his insults, such as imbecile, stupid and idiot at the media. That's defamation.

Trying to silence Coaches corner by going to the CBC board because you don't like the fact Wilson didn't clap for the military. That is an attack on freedom of speech.
He cant defend his employee from a pretty big accusation? Lets not kid here, not supporting the canadian army is a big deal. And accusing someone of that on national television based on a 5 second clip is big. Real big. Bigger than calling someone an idiot, imbecile or ***** (thats what don called burke on the air anyway). Telling them to muzzle down on the ron is anti-canada comments isnt impeding freedom of speech or else burke wpuld have been sued by now

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Must've missed that part. Can you link me the article or interview detailing that he approached Cherry before he went to his bosses?
Couldn't tell you. Only heard that he talked to Ron.

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A) Did you watch Wilson throughout the ceremony?

B) Does everyone have to carry your belief system?
I watched when the camera panned to the bench.

I could careless about his belief system.....I am not talking about a belief system.....but character and respect.

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Not at all, but his BS is tiring.....always thinking that others are not worthy of their opinions.....
Pot, meet kettle.

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I watched when the camera panned to the bench.

I could careless about his belief system.....I am not talking about a belief system.....but character and respect.
So by your own admission, you don't know Don's accusation to be fact and you are judging him based on your belief system (you just said that not supporting the military means you lack character and respect). Pretty much what I thought.

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For those keeping score

Cherry 1 - Wilson (fired) 0

Next match-up

Cherry verses Burke

Result : TBD

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So by your own admission, you don't know Don's accusation to be fact and you are judging him based on your belief system (you just said that not supporting the military means you lack character and respect). Pretty much what I thought.

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A) Did you watch Wilson throughout the ceremony?

B) Does everyone have to carry your belief system?

I watched when the camera panned to the bench.
I could careless about his belief system.....I am not talking about a belief system.....but character and respect.



I saw this as posted above....he was not clapping. My opinion is he failed to be respectful and it shows his character.

I am not an American but I have been to many games in many Sports in the USA and I always stand and take my hat off during the National Anthem as a sign of respect that is what we are talking about here.

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Pot, meet kettle.
I am just sick of the nonsense that occurs on here....this is a place to share opinions and information and a healthy debate is find, but to watch people who attack and belittle others and their opinions is not what this board was made for.

I could repost several of his/hers and other individuals who use this tactic posts, to support my assertion but you and most others know this already.

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A) Did you watch Wilson throughout the ceremony?

B) Does everyone have to carry your belief system?

I watched when the camera panned to the bench.
I could careless about his belief system.....I am not talking about a belief system.....but character and respect.



I saw this as posted above....he was not clapping. My opinion is he failed to be respectful and it shows his character.

I am not an American but I have been to many games in many Sports in the USA and I always stand and take my hat off during the National Anthem as a sign of respect that is what we are talking about here.
Do you normally base your opinions on a split second camera pan or knowing an event lasted 10 minutes, would you assess someone's character based on the whole of their actions?

What we are talking about here is that you believe anyone who doesn't share your beliefs is open to have their character defamed. Both your examples clearly illustrate that.

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I am just sick of the nonsense that occurs on here....this is a place to share opinions and information and a healthy debate is find, but to watch people who attack and belittle others and their opinions is not what this board was made for.

I could repost several of his/hers and other individuals who use this tactic posts, to support my assertion but you and most others know this already.
You keep saying this yet just gave two examples where if someone doesn't share your opinion, you feel it is fine to attack their personal character.

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