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03-08-2012, 08:37 AM
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I love how easily influenced we are by the media, reading a biased story and treating it like fact.

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Burke is a dictator. He wants to force feed the whole leaf nation blatant propaganda. He wants to control media and weed out any negativity. Keeps telling the media "fans love me" and "we got a playoff team". Seems like he is on the same trajectory as Ghadafi was. 1st try to silence the critics, 2nd try to appease them by firing prime minister/justice minister/Wilson, 3rd grab your loot & run for your life.

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Burke is a dictator. He wants to force feed the whole leaf nation blatant propaganda. He wants to control media and weed out any negativity. Keeps telling the media "fans love me" and "we got a playoff team". Seems like he is on the same trajectory as Ghadafi was. 1st try to silence the critics, 2nd try to appease them by firing prime minister/justice minister/Wilson, 3rd grab your loot & run for your life.
LOLLL

This is a perfect a example. And its more like:

"we believe we have a playoff team".

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I agree with almost everything you say, except it's my understanding that HNIC is not really using any of our tax dollars, because it actually generates enough revenue to pay for itself. But that's a minor point.
I don't know the actual details, but from what I understand HNIC generates income for CBC as a whole, who then reinvest that money all over the network. I don't think that HNIC has financial autonomy within the corporation. I'd imagine that most programs lose money because of Canadian content mandates, and hockey and covernment funding try to make up the difference. I could be wrong, though.

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why nonis?what has he done ......? burkes bum boy ..get rid of then all it'd be easy wiith new ownership coming in .im sure they are gonna find a sports guy surely they must realize the leafs are their golden ticket ....
Agreed...if they get rid of The Great Brian Burke.....give the organization a full enema...get rid of everything he brought in..Nonis included.

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I am a supporter of Brian Burke and Love Don Cherry. However, Burke is starting to crack under the pressure. He is making himself look like and *** and this franchise. I love this persona that he like to pawn off like he's some straight shooter not affraid of anyone. Now to go behind Ron and Dons backs to get them FIRED. YOU SERIOUS BURKE!!! Who the hell does this guy think he is. HNIC is not a local broadcast only to Toronto. IT is a NATIONAL broadcast. With a great tradition and pride to this country.

A host asked Burke if his jobs on the line on the radio and Burke calls him "GUTLESS" and ignorant. Yet he will go behind peoples backs to get them fired because how dare ANYONE question the almighty Burke. This guy is becoming a side show and starting to make this franchise more of a target for critisism as if it needed that already.

I like Burke as a GM. I think he has had some positive's on this organization. However the clock is ticking. His mouth will be his undoing. When that happens he will realize he came here for a statue in front of the ACC. He will leave with an image of a Man who is all talk and NO WALK.

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I am a supporter of Brian Burke and Love Don Cherry. However, Burke is starting to crack under the pressure. He is making himself look like and *** and this franchise. I love this persona that he like to pawn off like he's some straight shooter not affraid of anyone. Now to go behind Ron and Dons backs to get them FIRED. YOU SERIOUS BURKE!!! Who the hell does this guy think he is. HNIC is not a local broadcast only to Toronto. IT is a NATIONAL broadcast. With a great tradition and pride to this country.

A host asked Burke if his jobs on the line on the radio and Burke calls him "GUTLESS" and ignorant. Yet he will go behind peoples backs to get them fired because how dare ANYONE question the almighty Burke. This guy is becoming a side show and starting to make this franchise more of a target for critisism as if it needed that already.

I like Burke as a GM. I think he has had some positive's on this organization. However the clock is ticking. His mouth will be his undoing. When that happens he will realize he came here for a statue in front of the ACC. He will leave with an image of a Man who is all talk and NO WALK.

Amen!!

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Burke is a dictator. He wants to force feed the whole leaf nation blatant propaganda. He wants to control media and weed out any negativity. Keeps telling the media "fans love me" and "we got a playoff team". Seems like he is on the same trajectory as Ghadafi was. 1st try to silence the critics, 2nd try to appease them by firing prime minister/justice minister/Wilson, 3rd grab your loot & run for your life.
This is just dumb...

Burke and Cherry are just two old guys having going at one another over a small argument.

Cherry was dumb enough to accuse Ron Wilson of not cheering on the troops for that brief minute they were @ the ACC for. At least this year, It all snowballed from there and turned into a cat fight.

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I am a supporter of Brian Burke and Love Don Cherry. However, Burke is starting to crack under the pressure. He is making himself look like and *** and this franchise. I love this persona that he like to pawn off like he's some straight shooter not affraid of anyone. Now to go behind Ron and Dons backs to get them FIRED. YOU SERIOUS BURKE!!! Who the hell does this guy think he is. HNIC is not a local broadcast only to Toronto. IT is a NATIONAL broadcast. With a great tradition and pride to this country.

A host asked Burke if his jobs on the line on the radio and Burke calls him "GUTLESS" and ignorant. Yet he will go behind peoples backs to get them fired because how dare ANYONE question the almighty Burke. This guy is becoming a side show and starting to make this franchise more of a target for critisism as if it needed that already.

I like Burke as a GM. I think he has had some positive's on this organization. However the clock is ticking. His mouth will be his undoing. When that happens he will realize he came here for a statue in front of the ACC. He will leave with an image of a Man who is all talk and NO WALK.
Maybe next time you should finish reading the article before you post.

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I don’t think it was as much to get us fired as much as he wanted to see us muzzled, which is ridiculous,” MacLean said.

To Burke’s credit, MacLean said, the Leafs GM phoned him before he met with CBC executive director of sports properties Jeff Orridge, who, like Burke, is a Harvard-educated lawyer, several days after the NHL all-star weekend.

He said, ‘I am feeling kind of lousy doing it this way without talking to you first,’ ” MacLean said of the Burke call.

MacLean was offered a chance to meet with Burke before the meeting but declined — explaining to the Leafs president his and Cherry's job is not to present “all rainbows” in their broadcast.
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Its not like I'm totally taking Cherry's side on this. I don't want to as I don't really agree with him too much, but I'm definitely not on Burke's side. I small a whinny father trying to blame the teachers while his sons are failing all the courses in school. Not a great example but Burke goes overboard in protecting his players and staff despite them being the problem.

My advise to Burke: Shut up and improve your hockey team so they can get off your back.

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This is just dumb...

Burke and Cherry are just two old guys having going at one another over a small argument.

Cherry was dumb enough to accuse Ron Wilson of not cheering on the troops for that brief minute they were @ the ACC for. At least this year, It all snowballed from there and turned into a cat fight.
Why is it dumb to cheer for Canadian troops? Believing Burke has put together a playoff team is dumb.

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Maybe next time you should finish reading the article before you post.



I hope this helps.
I have read the entire article and Burke still comes across as a whiner ("You people have hurt my feelings!") and a d***.

Burke is lucky Ron's a nice, decent guy. If that happened in any other world someone would have said, "Try it you a*****e and I'll have you stuffed and mounted on my office wall."

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Anyone who is taking on any public sort of role on a Canadian hockey team should expect the media to be on their back 24/7. I guess the fact that Don Cherry, being probably the most influential hockey person in Canada, was talking **** about Wilson really hit a nerve for Burke, but he should have thicker skin than what he showed by going to the CBC execs, it would have been better to address Don Cherry directly through the same medium that Cherry used to express his views and opinions.

Using the Sens as an example, I would love if Don Brennan got fired, but I would be pissed off if Murray went to his bosses to get him fired for something negative he wrote about the Sens. I would rather Murray address Brennan directly.

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Holy crap Burke.

Burke - "Cherry has been saying bad things about me and my team, I want it to stop."

CBC suit - "Are you kidding Burke? You want us to stop someone from speaking their opinion?"

Burke - "yes, it's making me look bad. Plus, it hurts my feelings"

CBC suit - "ummm..."

Burke - "If you don't stop it, I'm taking my ball and going home."

Anyways, pick your battles Burkie. Your team is playing like crap right now. I'd lay a little low and do my best in the offseason to save my job.
Except this was started by something that has really nothing to with Hockey.

This all started with Cherry's personal attacks on Wilson cause he was born in Windsor yet carries a U.S passport and coaches the U.S national team. He's had it out for him since almost day one cause of this. Imagine if someone did this outside of the morally and culturally exempt coaches corner, Where you're apparently are aloud to openly criticize other people's cultural differences. Let's just say...Any where else in society for instance? You'd be fired on the spot for some form discrimination.


Yet, Some of our mouth breathing fans side with Cherry cause they think agreeing with him will help in their endeavour to see Burke fired and the Maple Leafs de-Americanized.

But, Really all they end up doing is coming across as people who support this bigot and the absolute nonsensical ******** he says.

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Anyone who is taking on any public sort of role on a Canadian hockey team should expect the media to be on their back 24/7. I guess the fact that Don Cherry, being probably the most influential hockey person in Canada, was talking **** about Wilson really hit a nerve for Burke, but he should have thicker skin than what he showed by going to the CBC execs, it would have been better to address Don Cherry directly through the same medium that Cherry used to express his views and opinions.

Using the Sens as an example, I would love if Don Brennan got fired, but I would be pissed off if Murray went to his bosses to get him fired for something negative he wrote about the Sens. I would rather Murray address Brennan directly.
Which brings us back to the fight in the barn scenario. Ron McLean and Mark Critch could both ref...

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Maybe next time you should finish reading the article before you post.



I hope this helps.
Oh I read the article. I am speaking to the fact that Burke is so arrogant that he thought he had the pull to get these two fired. I get that he gave Ron the heads up but not Cherry....Why is that? You think maybe Burke wants No part of the medicine Cherry would give him. Burke is hilarious. So yes maybe Burke gave the heads up to level headed Ron Maclean. Ballsy. What a straight shooter!! Just another reason Burkes personality is a bully. He has no problem letting someone he feels is "WEAKER" that he wants his job.....but a guy that will give it to him....Well take a look at his comments.

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Maybe next time you should finish reading the article before you post.



I hope this helps.
Don't think you can muzzle Cherry without firing him. The guy calls it like he sees it. Yeah, sometimes he is off base, but the guy is passionate. Stands up for Canadians.

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How stupid is Burke for going after Cherry? Cherry is a Hockey and Canadian Icon and has absolutely nothing to do with how the Leafs perform.

Burke has a lot of issues to deal with, why take on the biggest name in the Sport when your team is in disarray and"going off a cliff"??

Makes we question Burke's intelligence and how in touch he is with the Leafs Fans and Canadian hockey fans in general
Judging by how many misguided Leaf fans fawn over this blowhard, I question the intelligence of Leafs Nation. If Burke were 1/10th the GM his groupies claim he is, he wouldn't have all these problems. Winning solves everything. Nobody would bust Burke's balls if he were winning. He is not. He is obnoxious. He thinks he is smarter than everyone else. He has his own set of rules which impede the team. He is loyal to a fault (Wilson debacle), he is stubborn and slow in correcting his mistakes. Above all he delivers garbage.

I was watching Chef Ramsay yesterday and he ran across a stubborn restaurant owner who wouldn't take any of Ramsay's suggestions because he was a pompous a-hole. Ramsay returned 6 months later and found the restaurant went bankrupt and he said this.

"Whenever you combine incompetence with arrogance, it will result in Chapter 7 (bankruptcy)"

I thought that right there are the Leafs. Bankruptcy equivalence. Not in the monetary sense. But the GM is incompetent and arrogant and the results are a team bankrupt of any success and looking like they are spiraling further.

High draft pick anyone?

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I was watching Chef Ramsay yesterday and he ran across a stubborn restaurant owner who wouldn't take any of Ramsay's suggestions because he was a pompous a-hole. Ramsay returned 6 months later and found the restaurant went bankrupt and he said this.

"Whenever you combine incompetence with arrogance, it will result in Chapter 7 (bankruptcy)"
Nice use of Kitchen Nightmares! I salute you.

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We have all watched Coaches Corner since we can remeber and it is the purpose of the program to provide extremely subjective bombastic opinions that rile up the masses and generate good ratings.
His Bombastic opinion and hateful personal attack have a line between them that should not be crossed.

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Wow - Leafs create some of the stupidest argument. What a joke that this has become such a big story.

I love Don Cherry but am starting to wish he'd shut the hell up!!

The guys a dinosaur. This whole "behind my back" whinning and sobbing from Cherry all over the news outlets is a damn embarassement! I've always defended him when people call him old and senile but this is getting so stupid!

IT'S BUSINESS NOT A DAMN SCHOOLYARD!!!!

If you are causing Burke's organization bad publicity then he goes to your boss's! He doesn't meet you after school to brawl it out! Cherry's acting like a child!

At least Burke went quietly, Cherry has blasted it all over the news! Now it turns out he didn't even go behind their backs and wasn't even trying to get them fired!


Grow up Cherry! This isn't 1960's hockey where you and Burke just drop the gloves. This is business where Burke handled it exactly as he should! Cherry's the one now going behind Burke's back all over the radio blasting this thing wayout of proportion!

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I like Brian Burke as much as the next guy, but if it comes down to Coaches Corner or keeping Burke, I can live with Nonis/Dudley
umm... wow

Get real buddy. Burke has done SO much for this team, YOUR team YOU support.

Burke is not going anywhere.

Why does everyone think Cherry is god.

This is a fight between Cherry & Burke, in no way does it effect how good of a GM Burke is & in a JUST over a year & a half after taking over how much he IMPROVED us & still continued to IMPROVE us with trade steals.

Some of you people want to get him of Burke over this fight.

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Burke is starting to get really annoying with antics with the media.. Focus on getting the Leafs better and then talk

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I can't say I blame Cherry for being pissed. Burkie deserves the negative attention he is getting.

Let's start the "Fire Burkie" chants at the ACC!!!

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