I like Brian Burke as much as the next guy, but if it comes down to Coaches Corner or keeping Burke, I can live with Nonis/Dudley
If it wasn't for the Maple Leafs and the audience they draw on Saturday night Cherry wouldn't have the following that he has and the money that he makes nor the ego that makes him feel that he can say anything that he wants to. Toronto also needs to make their schedule so that they are at home on Saturday night so that HNIC and the NHL can make a lot of money.
Burke shouldn't need to withstand personal vendettas against himself nor anyone in his organization under any conditions let alone those.
I have read the entire article and Burke still comes across as a whiner ("You people have hurt my feelings!") and a d***.
Burke is lucky Ron's a nice, decent guy. If that happened in any other world someone would have said, "Try it you a*****e and I'll have you stuffed and mounted on my office wall."
And why shouldn't he complain? People talk about how ridiculous it is to put a muzzle on coach's corner, yet this all stems from Don Cherry refusing to talk hockey in this case. His entire segment was dedicated to bashing Ron Wilson on a personal level for apparently not supporting Canadian troops. What does that have to do with his job as the coach? That's on top of the fact that Cherry has ripped Wilson on a personal level for years. He's partly the reason why Wilson had to take 100% of the blame this year for the team's failures, because guys like him were easy targets for the media, and thus their opinions were propagated to the fanbase. If Cherry wants to criticize Wilson from a hockey perspective fine, but in that case he was creating nothing but trash TV.
A host asked Burke if his jobs on the line on the radio and Burke calls him "GUTLESS" and ignorant. Yet he will go behind peoples backs to get them fired because how dare ANYONE question the almighty Burke. This guy is becoming a side show and starting to make this franchise more of a target for critisism as if it needed that already.
Bang on!
Burke is a bully who can dish it out but can't take it back.
What Cherry said about Wilson should not have been Burke's concern. It's true that Cherry did not like Wilson, basically because Wilson would always throw his players under the bus. Cherry's job on HNIC is to voice his opinion, that is why he has a segment. Burke's friendship with Wilson is what will be his undoing in the end. If he got rid of Wilson last year, non of this growing anti-Burke sentiment would be brewing right now. The team looks like a disaster and people are pointing fingers at Burke. His knack for making good trades is what is helping him keep his job, because if we look at the record for everything else, even JFJ's tenure as GM doesn't look so bad.
So Cherry is right to be pissed and do something about it when Burke tries to get him and Maclean fired but when Burke essentially does the same thing when Cherry constantly goes on national TV and tries to get Wilson fired he is insecure and wrong.
Burke and Wilson's arrogant, sarcastic, pompous attitude and confrontational approach with the Toronto media created the storm, you reap what you sow.
While true Cherry criticized Wilson's coaching strategies long before Burke took action, maybe the end result showed Burke took too long making the "right" decision.
People that blame the media for the results, or lack thereof, are only making excuses for the team's performance. It wasn't Don Cherry or any media type that built this edition of the Leafs, nor did they make any of the following comments, Burke has ownership of them.
Nov. 29, 2008.
"It's our goal, we intend to get there, and we think this team is good enough to make the playoffs."
Wrong.
Sept. 11, 2009.
"As I said to you guys a year ago, I wasn't interested, and I'm still not, in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done. Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn't have to be five years, because it wasn't in Anaheim. And I'm not interested in a five-year rebuild here."
Now heading into year four.
April 14, 2010.
"Despite our recent stumble, we believe in this group and we believe this group is capable of making the playoffs."
Wrong, and still looking wrong in 2012
Feb. 27, 2012.
“Panic can’t be part of your vocabulary if you’re a general manager, if you want to win a championship, that can’t be part of it. Setbacks for 10 days or 12 days, that can’t be how you guide the ship. You can’t change course because you have 10 bad days out of 180 or 190 days in the season. You can’t. And I still believe this team can get it back on the rails."
After the GM and coach had both thrown the goaltenders under the bus, Burke needed to make a move for a goaltender IMO. Since Burke utter these words the Leafs have fired Wilson and have a record of 1 Win and 4 Losses.
When individuals at the top of an organization make these bold statements, at the same time being adversarial with the media yet fail to deliver, what would one expect?
Don't blame Cherry or any media type for Burke's failures, if they appear over zealous in their reporting of the Leafs struggles, look no further than the President and GM.
What Cherry said about Wilson should not have been Burke's concern. It's true that Cherry did not like Wilson, basically because Wilson would always throw his players under the bus. Cherry's job on HNIC is to voice his opinion, that is why he has a segment. Burke's friendship with Wilson is what will be his undoing in the end. If he got rid of Wilson last year, non of this growing anti-Burke sentiment would be brewing right now. The team looks like a disaster and people are pointing fingers at Burke. His knack for making good trades is what is helping him keep his job, because if we look at the record for everything else, even JFJ's tenure as GM doesn't look so bad.
History lesson.
When Cherry was coaching Colorado and things went bad there weren't enough buses available for him to throw all of the players under.
Don Cherry shoudl grow the hell up and remember that the NHL is his Client. CBC was hired by the NHL to broadcast hockey games.
If Burke feels they are detrimental to his BUSINESS then he goes to the head of the company.
This is business, not a schoolyard! Cherry should grow up and shut up. He's the one out now carrying on. You think the NHL is liking how Cherry is handling this!
If Burkie were half the man he claims he is, then he would make a public apology to MacLean and Cherry instead of wondering why Cherry is upset like he did on the 1010 interview. I'm paraphrasing here but he said something like "I don't know why Don is upset but one day I'll talk to him about it". Give me a break he doesn't know why he is upset. Don said it right on coaches corner. Burkie tried to get them fired. I would be pissed as well.
Burkie... be the man you claim to be and do the honourable thing. Appoligize publicly.
If Burkie were half the man he claims he is, then he would make a public apology to MacLean and Cherry instead of wondering why Cherry is upset like he did on the 1010 interview. I'm paraphrasing here but he said something like "I don't know why Don is upset but one day I'll talk to him about it". Give me a break he doesn't know why he is upset. Don said it right on coaches corner. Burkie tried to get them fired. I would be pissed as well.
Burkie... be the man you claim to be and do the honourable thing. Appoligize publicly.
Yet MacLean blatantly just said he wasn't trying to get them fired. Oh but Cherry said it so you have to take it as fact I guess.
If Burkie were half the man he claims he is, then he would make a public apology to MacLean and Cherry instead of wondering why Cherry is upset like he did on the 1010 interview. I'm paraphrasing here but he said something like "I don't know why Don is upset but one day I'll talk to him about it". Give me a break he doesn't know why he is upset. Don said it right on coaches corner. Burkie tried to get them fired. I would be pissed as well.
Burkie... be the man you claim to be and do the honourable thing. Appoligize publicly.
MacLean said that Burke didn't try to get them fired, Cherry lied and told everyone that he had.
If Burkie were half the man he claims he is, then he would make a public apology to MacLean and Cherry instead of wondering why Cherry is upset like he did on the 1010 interview. I'm paraphrasing here but he said something like "I don't know why Don is upset but one day I'll talk to him about it". Give me a break he doesn't know why he is upset. Don said it right on coaches corner. Burkie tried to get them fired. I would be pissed as well.
Burkie... be the man you claim to be and do the honourable thing. Appoligize publicly.
For what?
Not going behind his back?
- went to Ron MAclean and asked to meet.
Not trying to get him fired?
- “I don’t think it was as much to get us fired as much as he wanted to see us muzzled, which is ridiculous,” MacLean said.
Burke should apologize because someone at CBC leaked out something and Cherry blew it way out of proportion and is not even relaying correct information!
Wanna tell me how he's wrong? Just because they're out of the playoffs and looking like they won't make it doesn't mean they're not capable. They've been capable for 3 quarters of the year, then this bad stretch happens and all of a sudden it's a bad team? No it's not, it's a decent team that has just happened to play horrible. Let's not pretend that they're playing to 100% of their capabilities and it just so happens that the team isn't put together well enough, a lot of this is on the players not playing up to their skill level.
Funny how right in the middle of a horrific collapse and the changing of the head coach, the media spotlight has focused on the media relationships of the GM rather than the on ice issues.
It's almost as if it was being orchestrated to take the focus off the team while they try to right themselves somehow.
Whats funny is that this post turned into a small sampling of the public. Not one person commented on this which seems like a very legitimate hypothesis.
It's Burke's job to protect the players and this seems like one very skillful manipulation. Everyone seems to be blamed but the players.. you know, the people that actually control the team's destiny.
Burke and Wilson's arrogant, sarcastic, pompous attitude and confrontational approach with the Toronto media created the storm, you reap what you sow.
While true Cherry criticized Wilson's coaching strategies long before Burke took action, maybe the end result showed Burke took too long making the "right" decision.
People that blame the media for the results, or lack thereof, are only making excuses for the team's performance. It wasn't Don Cherry or any media type that built this edition of the Leafs, nor did they make any of the following comments, Burke has ownership of them.
Nov. 29, 2008.
"It's our goal, we intend to get there, and we think this team is good enough to make the playoffs."
Wrong.
Sept. 11, 2009.
"As I said to you guys a year ago, I wasn't interested, and I'm still not, in a five-year rebuild like some of these teams have done. Maybe because of my age, maybe just because I know it doesn't have to be five years, because it wasn't in Anaheim. And I'm not interested in a five-year rebuild here."
Now heading into year four.
April 14, 2010.
"Despite our recent stumble, we believe in this group and we believe this group is capable of making the playoffs."
Wrong, and still looking wrong in 2012
Feb. 27, 2012.
“Panic can’t be part of your vocabulary if you’re a general manager, if you want to win a championship, that can’t be part of it. Setbacks for 10 days or 12 days, that can’t be how you guide the ship. You can’t change course because you have 10 bad days out of 180 or 190 days in the season. You can’t. And I still believe this team can get it back on the rails."
After the GM and coach had both thrown the goaltenders under the bus, Burke needed to make a move for a goaltender IMO. Since Burke utter these words the Leafs have fired Wilson and have a record of 1 Win and 4 Losses.
When individuals at the top of an organization make these bold statements, at the same time being adversarial with the media yet fail to deliver, what would one expect?
Don't blame Cherry or any media type for Burke's failures, if they appear over zealous in their reporting of the Leafs struggles, look no further than the President and GM.
I don't blame Cherry or any of the media for Wilson's firing. I thought he should have been fired long ago. The double standard here is what I find amusing. "arrogant, sarcastic, pompous attitude and confrontational approach" I really think could be used to described either Burke or Cherry. Cherry has every right to be pissed at Burke for trying to get him fired just as Burke has every right at Cherry for trying to get his friend Wilson and employee fired.
If you are going to go on a show and give opinions that may piss people off don't act shocked that you pissed people off - you reap what you sew. Just the same, if you say you are going to win and don't then don't be surprised people are pissed off.
They are both a couple of type A egomaniacs that love every minute of this crap.
what a ****ing baby. Man Burke is just going downhill. Maybe he needs to concern himself less about the media he can't stay away from and more on the leafs as a team.
I have read the entire article and Burke still comes across as a whiner ("You people have hurt my feelings!") and a d***.
Burke is lucky Ron's a nice, decent guy. If that happened in any other world someone would have said, "Try it you a*****e and I'll have you stuffed and mounted on my office wall."
Oh man! WOuld hate to anger the all-powerful Ron Maclean or King Cherry!
If these guys had half a brain, they would let this story go or HNIC will be reunited with it's old theme song on TSN! And big' ol tough Ron and Don will be begging for change outside the ACC every SAturday night!
MacLean said that Burke didn't try to get them fired, Cherry lied and told everyone that he had.
Whats the difference between being muzzled and being fired? If you got dignity and someone tries to muzzle you, you quit. Muzzle the media, who the **** do you think you are Burke?! If like you said, "I don't care what the media says", why try to muzzle it?
Whats the difference between being muzzled and being fired? If you got dignity and someone tries to muzzle you, you quit. Muzzle the media, who the **** do you think you are Burke?! If like you said, "I don't care what the media says", why try to muzzle it?
Or maybe he tried to get Don to stick to hockey instead of taking personal shots at Wilson for 10 minutes?
