He's flying first class, with a magical window that he can talk to and see his loved ones through, eating the finest food, getting a massage when he snaps his fingers, and staying in fine hotels.
This isn't the Trail of Tears people. Suck it up and score more than 3 points in 17 games kid, this franchise is on your back now. Can't hide on the thrid line against bottom pairings anymore. Either he starts producing or the Sabres don't make the playoffs because these so called seasoned veterans like Roy and Boyes don't have what it takes.
He's flying first class, with a magical window that he can talk to and see his loved ones through, eating the finest food, getting a massage when he snaps his fingers, and staying in fine hotels.
This isn't the Trail of Tears people. Suck it up and score more than 3 points in 17 games kid, this franchise is on your back now. Can't hide on the thrid line against bottom pairings anymore. Either he starts producing or the Sabres don't make the playoffs because these so called seasoned veterans like Roy and Boyes don't have what it takes.
Nice hyperbole, you should write a novella.
Will you ever not be bitter about this trade?
Give the kid a break. he hasn't even had a real practice with the Sabres yet and he's playing well considering the circumstances. He'll start producing, it takes time. People are quick to forget he's a rookie. We traded for him, mostly for the future not to be our spark plug to ignite our playoff run.
So easy for people to forget that these guys are human beings. And in the midst of all this Cody probably hasn't even got all of his belongings from Vancouver or bought a house/apartment.
Not to mention he was thrust on to a team clawing for their playoff lives with a completely new set of teammates, coaches, systems and what not, all at the age of 21.
Yea i'll give the kid a pass for the rest of the year honestly.
Lot of maturity needed to tackle all of these situations.
And situations indeed. Not only off ice situations but the on ice situations where he went from 3rd line center responsibilities against bottom 6 defenders. To a team with 2nd line responsibilities against top 6 defenders in the midst of a playoff run.
Cody has all the tools to be a very talented center in buffalo and he has put up the numbers he has this season coming off his first and only legitimate off season training where he wasn't rehabbing his back.
I held season tickets back when I was living in my hometown of brampton ontario for 2 seasons 07-08 and 08-09 and Cody was really fun to watch. Things can only get better from here and I'm glad he will get an immediate opportunity here in Buffalo.
OP forgets that he was actually in Phoenix ahead of the Canucks next road game before flying back to Buffalo and then to Anaheim. So really, add 1 more city to his list.
I'm not judging Hodgson until he's settled in, and with how hectic the last couple of weeks for him has been, that seems only fair. This was a trade more for the future than for the current, and to treat it any other way is simply unfair.
When does Buffalo have more than 2 home games in a row this year? It could help him get used to it around there. being in over 9000 cities in as many days doesn't help. But give him the summer, and I feel like, and im sure you feel like he will be comfortable and less gassed out because he won't be in 9000 cities in 20 days
c'mon. i know the nucks fanbase wants to do and say ANYTHING to validate the trade, but let's not be ridiculous. i've watched all the nucks games and kassian has been mediocre at best. physical yes, but even that's tailing off (as many predicted would happen after the adrenaline wore off). he was absolutely terrible against the stars the other night. vancouver is in big trouble if they think they can reply on kassian to fill a top 9 role in the playoffs.
All of Van (minus a very select few) were horrible against Dallas. Kassian certainly wasn't alone there.
...and other than that game, I think most have been pleased w/ what they have seen out of Kassian so far.
Precisely.... But some did expect it... Shame on them.
Play4 .... Face it, you love Kassian.... So much so that it clouds a fair judgement as to why this was a win win trade for both teams. Your little (Cody should be superhuman) rant is unfair and heavily bias. I honestly think you would of been unhappy with anyone short of a first line player for Kassian. And that is just plain unbalanced thinking. Do you have the ability to step back and look at a trade without the heart involved?
Haha...nope. If we can be perfectly candid for a moment? I love my girlfriend. She's sensitive, beautiful, smart, funny, and compassionate. Everything she says carries meaning to me, and for her and only her, I sometimes fret over what I am about to say for fear of upsetting her highly evolved sensibilities. Now Hodgson and Kassian? They could both be kicked into the hospital by a mob of kangeroos and I wouldn't even slow down my chewing motion as I ate my lunch. Seriously.
The problem with trading Kassian, or more speciffically, players LIKE Kassian is that you are moving a rare asset that is trending upwards. The heavy weight enforcer is fading away unto nothing. Middle weights who can play are absorbing their roles. And make no mistake, Kassian can play. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that ZK will level out slightly above a Malone but not quite as useful as a Lucic. A 20 goal bruiser built for playoff style hockey.
Not to be traded lightly, especially when your team is already so God forakenly small and timmid up front.
The Leino contract was a failure, and Regier wanted to save face. But he made it even worse.
I have no doubt that Hidgson will put up 40 point. Maybe a 50 here and there. But never a 60.
That's not worth Kassian to me.
As for the immediate returns. Kassian still has to earn his place in the league, he says the right things but he still has a bad attitude and a false sense of entitlement to a top line role. Still needs to learn humility, and conditioning. But a win for the Nucks, a wise acquisition. They KNOW how key guys like that are. Cup contenders get it.
Hodgson is supposedly more far along as a professional and I think his head is in fact screwed on better than most nhlers let aline Kassian. Great kid. But he is this teams Kessler now. That's the reality. So be better start producing and leading and growing into that role righy now. That's life.
Are any of you really dumping on Hodgson? Seriously, we've had a great win-loss record since picking him up, the team is playing a much higher tempo game since Hodgson-in, Gaustad-out, and the plain truth is that if Stafford buried a couple of those nice passes/open nets from Hodgson, he wouldn't be 0-fer.
Thanks for his past 21 day schedule, validates him being a little overwhelmed. Kid is going to be one of our finest soon, and if I question that, I re-read all the Vancouver fans HATE on the trade, they love him.
When does Buffalo have more than 2 home games in a row this year? It could help him get used to it around there. being in over 9000 cities in as many days doesn't help. But give him the summer, and I feel like, and im sure you feel like he will be comfortable and less gassed out because he won't be in 9000 cities in 20 days
After Satruday, the Sabres have 6 days at home (2 games).
I like Cody's style but the lack of production is a bit disconcerting. But I see Ruff's logic in keeping his lines intact to give chemistry a chance to bubble to the surface.
Kinda on but off topic. Does anyone else notice how it seems like Ennis and Stafford almost never pass to Hodgson? I feel like i can hear him saying "guys, guys, over here im open" but they never pass lol
The problem with trading Kassian, or more speciffically, players LIKE Kassian is that you are moving a rare asset that is trending upwards. The heavy weight enforcer is fading away unto nothing. Middle weights who can play are absorbing their roles. And make no mistake, Kassian can play. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that ZK will level out slightly above a Malone but not quite as useful as a Lucic. A 20 goal bruiser built for playoff style hockey.
Not to be traded lightly, especially when your team is already so God forakenly small and timmid up front.
The Leino contract was a failure, and Regier wanted to save face. But he made it even worse. That's your opinion, NO basis in fact. Time will tell at the end of his play as a Sabre, not now! Hypothetical but, after this season if he has five 50 pt. seasons, that's a failure? Not quite. But you have a hair trigger to judge, i see that plain as day.
I have no doubt that Hidgson will put up 40 point. Maybe a 50 here and there. But never a 60. Again, your opinion, NO basis in fact, yet you judge like that opinion is fact. He may only get 30 pts., he may get 60. NO ONE KNOWS.
That's not worth Kassian to me. Everyone has a threshold as to what a certain player is worth to them. It's usually much different than what the franchise feels he's worth.
As for the immediate returns. Kassian still has to earn his place in the league, he says the right things but he still has a bad attitude and a false sense of entitlement to a top line role. And i don't think he feels entitled to a first line role. Still needs to learn humility, and conditioning. But a win for the Nucks, a wise acquisition. They KNOW how key guys like that are. Cup contenders get it.
Hodgson is supposedly more far along as a professional and I think his head is in fact screwed on better than most nhlers let aline Kassian. Great kid. But he is this teams Kessler now. That's the reality. But a win for the Sabres. Just as much as a win for the Canucks.So be better start producing and leading and growing into that role righy now. That's life.What else is "life" is understanding, and respecting the grind Hodgson has gone thru in the past 3 weeks, the new teammates, the new coach, the new owner, the new GM, the new EVERYTHING. But you take none of this into account and start to pick at the guy. You obviously expected more, again, quick to judge.
They are both still young and rookies, treat them equal, because so far your not. If you take a breath with Hodgson, watch what he does thru the rest of this season. Evaluate him after 10-12 games into next season, you may have a good argument as to why Kassian should of stayed. But now and for the rest of the season? Too quick to judge, way to quick
Oh, and you STILL need to run your posts thru a spell check or double check them before submitting. They can be brutal.
Does this team fanbase have some kind of weird hatred towards Centers or something? The guy is playing in his ROOKIE season after coming off a huge injury and you're already trying to label him as a 40-50 pt player. lol fail!
Kassian is even LESS proven as a player than Hodgson is atm. Get over your mancrush Kassian isn't coming back.
The problem with trading Kassian, or more speciffically, players LIKE Kassian is that you are moving a rare asset that is trending upwards. The heavy weight enforcer is fading away unto nothing. Middle weights who can play are absorbing their roles. And make no mistake, Kassian can play. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that ZK will level out slightly above a Malone but not quite as useful as a Lucic. A 20 goal bruiser built for playoff style hockey.
God forbid the Sabres trade a rare asset trending upwards (Kassian) for a rare asset trending upwards (CoHo.)
What a terrible organization that clearly doesn't know what they're doing!!
Haha...nope. If we can be perfectly candid for a moment? I love my girlfriend. She's sensitive, beautiful, smart, funny, and compassionate. Everything she says carries meaning to me, and for her and only her, I sometimes fret over what I am about to say for fear of upsetting her highly evolved sensibilities. Now Hodgson and Kassian? They could both be kicked into the hospital by a mob of kangeroos and I wouldn't even slow down my chewing motion as I ate my lunch. Seriously.
The problem with trading Kassian, or more speciffically, players LIKE Kassian is that you are moving a rare asset that is trending upwards. The heavy weight enforcer is fading away unto nothing. Middle weights who can play are absorbing their roles. And make no mistake, Kassian can play. I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that ZK will level out slightly above a Malone but not quite as useful as a Lucic. A 20 goal bruiser built for playoff style hockey.
Not to be traded lightly, especially when your team is already so God forakenly small and timmid up front.
The Leino contract was a failure, and Regier wanted to save face. But he made it even worse.
I have no doubt that Hidgson will put up 40 point. Maybe a 50 here and there. But never a 60.
That's not worth Kassian to me.
As for the immediate returns. Kassian still has to earn his place in the league, he says the right things but he still has a bad attitude and a false sense of entitlement to a top line role. Still needs to learn humility, and conditioning. But a win for the Nucks, a wise acquisition. They KNOW how key guys like that are. Cup contenders get it.
Hodgson is supposedly more far along as a professional and I think his head is in fact screwed on better than most nhlers let aline Kassian. Great kid. But he is this teams Kessler now. That's the reality. So be better start producing and leading and growing into that role righy now. That's life.
You'd rather have a slightly better Malone then a # 1 center? That's absurd. You say Cup contenders need players like Kassian, sure they have there role but top 6 centers are far more important to Cup contenders then 2nd line bruisers. Without Sedin and Kesler the Canucks wouldn't be in a cup contending position.
Players like Kassian are trending upwards, sure but they will never trend as high as #1 centers.
As for the stat prediction for Hodgson, I feel you will be eating some crow sooner rather than later. He will certainly string together a number of 60 point seasons.
As for the bolded, Hodgson doesn't have tobe any sort of a leader right now. He is a 22 year old rookie who has played just over a handful of games for his new club. Down the line, yes he will be a leader but he's going to take a little bit to develop. I feel you're starting to take the blinders off. Take a look at the big picture a little more. You will see that players such as Hodgson are much more important to a teams success then players like Kassian.
You'd rather have a slightly better Malone then a # 1 center? That's absurd. You say Cup contenders need players like Kassian, sure they have there role but top 6 centers are far more important to Cup contenders then 2nd line bruisers. Without Sedin and Kesler the Canucks wouldn't be in a cup contending position.
Players like Kassian are trending upwards, sure but they will never trend as high as #1 centers.
As for the stat prediction for Hodgson, I feel you will be eating some crow sooner rather than later. He will certainly string together a number of 60 point seasons.
As for the bolded, Hodgson doesn't have tobe any sort of a leader right now. He is a 22 year old rookie who has played just over a handful of games for his new club. Down the line, yes he will be a leader but he's going to take a little bit to develop. I feel you're starting to take the blinders off. Take a look at the big picture a little more. You will see that players such as Hodgson are much more important to a teams success then players like Kassian.
Lol thats exactly what i thought when I read this. So he would rather have a Ryan Clowe than a Kopitar...
Kinda on but off topic. Does anyone else notice how it seems like Ennis and Stafford almost never pass to Hodgson? I feel like i can hear him saying "guys, guys, over here im open" but they never pass lol
I have been thinking the same thing since he arrived in Buffalo. I see Ennis looks for Cody at times but I would put a little more emphasis on Stafford as I have yet to see him look back for a pass to Cody. Either way totally agree with you on that one.
nah he'll have a couple 50-55 point seasons, but so will Kassian.
Hardly Kopitar. People expecting 60-70 points are really chasing a rainbow.
What really sucks about all of this, is that I am rarely wrong! lol
I don't know you well enough to disagree with you being rarely wrong. But I think you are completely underestimating cody's offensive upside. 60-70 point seasons are not a stretch for cody by no means. At his draft year Mackenzie had him as having all the same skill sets as Stamkos minus his speed. And cody regrettably missed 2 years of development through a misdiagnosed back injury and a couple more injuries thrown his way while in the AHL. If cody can even improve his skating to at least half of what Stamkos has I would be willing to bet he could easily put up 60-70 points maybe not next year but in a few years definitely. And he started training along side Stamkos this past summer with the guru Gary Roberts. So I say wait to see what he brings to camp next year because you along with so many others will be surprised with cody's development much like most Canuck fans were when he came into camp last fall and his skating had improved vastly from the year before.
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