Landeskog. Was really impressed with his ability to play at this level. RNH and Henrique ain't the best players on their lines, Langestog carries his line.
To avoid (honestly, quite fair) accusations of homer-ism, I shall appeal to reason with the use of stats provided by behind the net...
In addition to shots, goals, dubiously recorded hits, +/-, what have you - Landeskog leads his team in Quality of competition (Henrique is 6th on the Devils, RNH is 9th on the Oilers). His relative Corsi is top 20 in the league, while his ES o-zone starts are still around 55%. He is +22 on a team where he closest teammate is +10, and the team as a whole is -3.
In making that particular case, it may seem I'm discriminating against Henrique and RNH for having better and worse situations, things that are out of their control. I don't intend that. I just want to stress how good Landeskog has been.
Is being possibly the best forward on a bubble team better than being the 4th (?) best forward on a playoff team, if those two players have otherwise similar stats? It might be a decent tiebreaker, though I don't know how fair it is.
RNH, man, I don't know, he certainly brings the razzle dazzle.
You neglect the most important stat, and that's the Johnson-Forsby Dynamic Plunt Ratio. Henrique leads the pack with a +28% (+38% on the road against rested opponents!) to be the easy choice among the three. Stats don't lie buddy.
Points are not all that matter. Having him listed third is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Immanuel
This. The nuge scored a lot of points but he's not close to being as effective as Lando right now. Nuge put on a good show for a kid but Lando plays a man's game that has helped his team win hockey games.
When was the last time someone won the Calder based on there Overall Game? Points are always gonna be counted first when it comes to awards like the Calder.
Henrique isn't just riding their coattails. Far from it. He definitely benefits from playing with them, but watch him play and then tell me he isn't a dynamic player in his own right.
I think the race is now primarily between Landeskog and Henrique, and I'd say Landeskog is currently ahead by a little bit, despite Henrique's scoring advantage. Lando is putting his team on his back (something Henrique can't really claim), and like Henrique, he plays in all situations. The fact that RNH racks up almost half his points on the PP and doesn't play on the PK at all hurts his candidacy compared to the other two.
When was the last time someone won the Calder based on there Overall Game? Points are always gonna be counted first when it comes to awards like the Calder.
Read deserves some recognition, he plays much less ice time and isnt on the top lines like RNH, henerique and Landeskog and he still has the most goals for any rookie
Landeskog. Was really impressed with his ability to play at this level. RNH and Henrique ain't the best players on their lines, Langestog carries his line.
RNH certainly was the best player on his line before injury, he's far better than Landeskog, I hope you're not drawing that inference.
It's true... Henerique is a nice player but he's undoubtedly benefitting from kovy and Parise, how could he not? Landeskog or read would have many many more points than they do now if they had them 2 and 1st line minutes, you can't argue it. RNH has the linemates and ice time.
and you won't do ****. A player has to be good enough to keep up with those two, you just don't pick up random ghost points all the time. Maybe 2 or 3 but not 40.
I swear half of you hardly ever watch Devils games, yes, Henrique does benefit from playing between them, but they also benefit from playing around him. He has been a catalyst for that line. Henrique creates his own chances all the time.
Henrique is full marks for his points, the linemate argument is just asinine. He's playing with Kovalchuk and Parise, so he's facing the other teams top checking lines, and shutdown defence pair. I don't remember anybody pissing on Sid Abel because he played with Howe and Lindsay.
Landeskog should win it.
RNH plays 20 sheltered minutes a game.
Henrique is getting carried by 2 allstars on his line and gets a lot of second assists.
RNH had this locked up before his bout of injuries took over.
Now I see it being very close, with Henrique and Landeskog as the two frontrunners, and RNH needing to put up some serious points (like he has shown he can) if he wants to win this thing.
This is a two-horse race between Landeskog and Henrique. We've still got some games left to play and both of them will be critical to their team's success.
I said it in December, I'll say it now, if the Avs make the playoffs Landeskog will win the Calder, because it will be his performance which puts us over the edge.
he really is overrated
