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03-08-2012, 07:45 PM
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Should they reintroduce the red line?

Call it the 2004-05 crutch, but it maybe more of a head wrap.

I wouldn't mind if they did, my Jets use to have it in play and Teemu scored no problem with it as did many others.

Out of all the rules they changed, this is the most important one maybe, be cause of the true effect on the way the game is played.

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I'm getting a bit bored of the "shoot it around the boards and tip it in" game plan. Zzzz. But I'm not really sure what I'd like them to do.

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IMHO, No.

Get rid of the trapazoid, and go to no-touch or modified no-touch icing.

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Yeah I hope they lose that for sure, that's just a really dumb rule.

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IMHO, No.

Get rid of the trapazoid, and go to no-touch or modified no-touch icing.
100% this

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No redline!

The 1-3-1 trap is bad enough, last thing we need is even more boring trap style hockey. I also agree with the removal of the trapezoid (Even though Pav's isn't the greatest puck-handler).

I really don't believe that the redline is the major cause to all the concussions of late. I believe the medical procedures have gotten better at detecting concussions and that is why we're seeing an increase in them. I don't think reintroducing the redline will have a significant effect on reducing concussions.

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If they re-introduce the red line they would also have to reduce the size of the offensive zones again.
I don't want to see the blue lines moved, it's already hard enough to get a puck to the net.

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Yeah they never got rid of the red line. It's there in every game. They just eliminated the two line pass over the red line

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leave the red line out, remove that trapizoid, add some form of no-touch icing

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leave the red line out, remove that trapizoid, add some form of no-touch icing
you're hired.

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If they re-introduce the red line they would also have to reduce the size of the offensive zones again.
I don't want to see the blue lines moved, it's already hard enough to get a puck to the net.
This, oh so much this.

It's what I've been thinking since the discussion started. The middle zone would have to get bigger again, resulting in less offensive zone time, easier clears, probably less scoring chances etc.

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IMHO, No.

Get rid of the trapazoid, and go to no-touch or modified no-touch icing.
This pretty sums it up for me.

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No way would I want the two line pass back in the game. Just makes it easier to trap if they called two line passes.

I guess I am in the minority in regards to the trapezoid. I like it a lot and also don't want it to go. Nothing is more boring to me than to see team A dump it into the zone and then see team B's goalie continually dumping it out. Or even worse, the old team B's goalie goes to play the puck and nobody can touch him because they are scared to set off a line brawl.

I like the trapezoid and think it's now a skill to be able to dump the puck into the zone and have it stay in the corners. At least that way if you have a teammate charging the zone you have a chance at creating a turnover and keeping the puck in deep.

Not really interested in going back to the Brodeur era of goalies handling the puck 50 times a game. That's boring to me.

No touch icing should get a second look though IMO.

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They should get rid of helmets again

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Don't bring back the red line, keep the trapezoid (in fact, make it a bit bigger) and bring in no-touch icing.

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How about permanent 4 on 4. Players are too fast and too big for 5 on 5 in the small NHL sized rink.

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I still think no helmets is a good idea. Including goalies

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I'm all for the rover and no forward passing myself... We still play that way in Transcona

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How about putting the nets back to back at center ice on a revolving turntable? Then when a goal is scored, the turntable speed is bumped up a notch. ...might be tricky timing your slapshot near the end of the game though.
I've got some other ideas but they're kind of out there.

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Don't bring back the red line, keep the trapezoid (in fact, make it a bit bigger) and bring in no-touch icing.

Sold.
If you make the trapezoid bigger aren't you basically getting rid of the effect? Not many times that the puck dies in the corner where the goalie has time to play it anyways, I think the trapezoid is a good size.

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No touch icing would be the best thing.

I don't think bringing back the no two line pass (which is really what we're discussing here) would do anything. Look at all the major injuries in the past couple years, would that rule do anything for those? I can't think of a single case it would.

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03-11-2012, 08:50 PM
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My rule changes:
1) Put the red-line back in.
2) No more Trapezoid.
3) If a team doesn't send a forechecker (a la 1-3-1), the puck possession team can ice the puck legally.

What you have now as some have mentioned, is either teams trapping with a 1-3-1 or 1-2-2. To beat that trap, teams just use that stupid tip-shoot in play that is boring and dangerous as D are forced to turn back and chase pucks because the goalies cant play it (they should also be getting rid of the trapezoid).

Adding the redline back in will do a few things:
A) Teams will move their trapping up in front of the line. While this sounds like a bad thing, it will actually create more offense and counter attack opportunities off of turnovers.
B) Teams looking to break out of the zone will have to re-emphasis the passing game. More passing = more offense.
C) Officials will be able to crack down on obstruction more consistently, as Dmen won't be getting away with the interference they run on those tip-chip plays anymore.



The game will slow down a little bit, however the quality of play will be much higher (no more tip-chip dump and chase) and the no -forechecker, no-icing rule should force teams to stay away from boring traps. Teams that are sloppy with the puck will pay, as they will likely turn the puck over before the red-line creating good scoring chances. More goals will also be created by goalies having to play the puck more as well.

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