I really don't get the negativity surrounding Gilroy. He's been fine. Makes the type of mistakes most offensive d-men make but nothing too awful. MacLean seems to like him too.
People had a stupid attachment for Brian Lee so they now have a stupid resentment for Gilroy.
He looked fine this game. He likes to pinch, but once he understands the system I think that will be an advantage. His speed is really good, could be a great asset for breaking down a defensive team during the playoffs.
I really don't get the negativity surrounding Gilroy. He's been fine. Makes the type of mistakes most offensive d-men make but nothing too awful. MacLean seems to like him too.
He's an offensive defenseman? Could have fooled me. His puck movement is average at best and his shot is just as bad as Lee's was.
I don't trust him in our end and he can make boneheaded decisions at bad times. I don't want him on the team past this season.
People had a stupid attachment for Brian Lee so they now have a stupid resentment for Gilroy.
At least that's what I've gathered.
Yeah I'm sensing a lot of Sens fans had their minds made up before Gilroy even came onto the team. At least he makes things happen while Lee was just "there".
I had no attachment to Lee and he wasn't playing so made sense to part ways. We need to give him more time to adjust to the system before judging him too hard, but you would think he would opt to play more conservative while he is feeling things out rather than taking a lot of risks...or maybe this IS conservative Gilroy...but yes, I think our forwards are generally responsible and play a two-way game to pick up some of the slack. He's definitely got some attractive skills, but I'm hoping to see a bit more balance in his game down the stretch. Hands down best tan and in that way he could not be any more different than Brian Lee.
Just to add: the purpose of this thread wasn't to say I don't like Gilroy, mainly that his defensive game (or lack thereof) makes me nervous.
I had no attachment to Lee and he wasn't playing so made sense to part ways. We need to give him more time to adjust to the system before judging him too hard, but you would think he would opt to play more conservative while he is feeling things out rather than taking a lot of risks...or maybe this IS conservative Gilroy...but yes, I think our forwards are generally responsible and play a two-way game to pick up some of the slack. He's definitely got some attractive skills, but I'm hoping to see a bit more balance in his game down the stretch. Hands down best tan and in that way he could not be any more different than Brian Lee.
This isnt slack. This is how maclean wants to play team defense
This isnt slack. This is how maclean wants to play team defense
Yup. I think we will be happy to have him around when teams zone in on EK even more than they already are.. Provides an offensive spark even when our best aren't on the ice and rushes the puck well enough for teams to need to respect it.
I like we can roll an offensive defense man on each line to provide extra scoring.
I also like that most of our wingers can see when they start pinching and cover the point if needed. Time will tell if this is good of bad idea having an active/4th forward on each line. It does make it unpredictable to defend against for other teams, but will lead to odd man rushes when it doesn't work.
It certainly makes for more entertaining hockey then ****ing trapping all the time with active defense man.
I don't see anything with Gilroy. He's not good defensively, he's not a good skater (speed or quickness or turns), and he doesn't have great hands. I was not a huge Brian Lee fan but Gilroy is clearly an inferior player and an inferior athlete. It hurts even more because we're not a very good skating team and the trade made us worse (and worse on the back end).
Who knows that the deal was - while limited, Lee was very fluid, nice hands, moved the puck quickly, had learned to be physical and still under control (RFA). Sens must have had a real hate-on for the guy.
I can't speak for others but I was very familiar with Gilroy before he put on a Sens jersey and have never liked his game. I cringed when the trade was announced.
He just seems so average, always gets his shots blocked and doesn't do anything really well. I think there was a reason he only played 13 minutes tonight but I still like him a lot more then Carkner. Gilroy would be fine as the 6th or 7th defencemen next year as well I think.
He just seems so average, always gets his shots blocked and doesn't do anything really well. I think there was a reason he only played 13 minutes tonight but I still like him a lot more then Carkner. Gilroy would be fine as the 6th or 7th defencemen next year as well I think.
Well, you just described most 5th or 6th defencemen in the league. If he was above average he'd be on the top pairing.
I really don't get the negativity surrounding Gilroy. He's been fine. Makes the type of mistakes most offensive d-men make but nothing too awful. MacLean seems to like him too.
Lee went and Gilroy joined the team, so essentially Gilroy is the goat in Lee's place.
People had a stupid attachment for Brian Lee so they now have a stupid resentment for Gilroy.
At least that's what I've gathered.
Well, this.
Cognitive bias
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Originally Posted by L'Aveuglette
I really don't get the negativity surrounding Gilroy. He's been fine. Makes the type of mistakes most offensive d-men make but nothing too awful. MacLean seems to like him too.
I'll let the experts decide on Gilroy. They know a lot more than we do, at least a lot more than I do. The trial period for Gilroy is still on. We'll see after the season what we want to do with him. For now, the sample size is still very small
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Originally Posted by DylanSensFan
We trade an average defender for an average defender and people are complaining.
The most sickening thing is that Bryan Murray himself said that they weren't going to keep Brian Lee after this season, so they decided to try another guy, auditioning him for a contract (like Anderson last year)
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Originally Posted by bonehead
I don't see anything with Gilroy. He's not good defensively, he's not a good skater (speed or quickness or turns), and he doesn't have great hands. I was not a huge Brian Lee fan but Gilroy is clearly an inferior player and an inferior athlete. It hurts even more because we're not a very good skating team and the trade made us worse (and worse on the back end).
Who knows that the deal was - while limited, Lee was very fluid, nice hands, moved the puck quickly, had learned to be physical and still under control (RFA). Sens must have had a real hate-on for the guy.
wow, is this post a joke? Almost everything said in there is just false...
Gilroy is not a good skater?
We're not a good skating team? Really?
The trade made us worse?
Brian Lee, nice hands?
But the funniest was probably : "I was not a huge Brian Lee fan but Gilroy is clearly an inferior player and an inferior athlete"
I don't see anything with Gilroy. He's not good defensively, he's not a good skater (speed or quickness or turns), and he doesn't have great hands. I was not a huge Brian Lee fan but Gilroy is clearly an inferior player and an inferior athlete. It hurts even more because we're not a very good skating team and the trade made us worse (and worse on the back end).
Who knows that the deal was - while limited, Lee was very fluid, nice hands, moved the puck quickly, had learned to be physical and still under control (RFA). Sens must have had a real hate-on for the guy.
This makes no sense to me at all. We are actually an excellent skating team on the whole, it's what we do, and why we have defied the predictions... What team are you watching?
Gilroy has been solid defensively, is a good skater, moves the puck out of the zone well, and has offensive flair. He fits into the system of hockey that we play and has higher upside in this capacity than Lee.
Lee, while being a serviceable player, was not the type of Dman we need in our up tempo system. The organization didn't treat him badly, he just wasn't good enough to earn more than he got.
We traded him for another guy we think can fit our team better, if he doesn't end up doing that, oh well, we weren't signing Lee anyways. But as of now Gilroy looks like he'll fit the bill for us going forward.
Who knew there was all of this secret Lee love????
