Gilroy went undrafted = sucks
Lee went above Doughty and Kopitar = Awesome.
Durrr
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Anyways, Gilroy is not a good defenseman. He tries to play like Karlsson but has none of the natural talent or intelligence. He's a poor man's Corvo aka exactly what I expected. Looking forward to his contract expiring .
The only complaint I've had about Gilroy so far is that he is REALLY hesitant to take a shot when the opportunity is there. You can see him second-guess himself, and the result is a weak half-deke-snapshot that usually gets blocked. When he is confident in his shot, it's a nice one from the point, but when he hesitates back there, it's ugly.
Other than that, no complaints. Guys skates well, hustles back to his own zone, and doesn't really hurt anyone with his play. Like I said at the time of the trade, slight upgrade over Lee.
Honestly, I think I'm happiest that the "Brian Lee Saga" is over here in Ottawa. The "Lee Question" hung over the heads of everyone here for far longer than it should have. Good to just have closure on the annual "9th overall: Will He Make It?" soap opera.
The Rangers announcers last night were hinting that Gilroy might not be in the best shape, and said Tim Murray thought that if Gilroy signed in Ottawa and did an entire summer of the Sens Summer Camp he would take a huge step forward in his game and become a solid player in Ottawa.
I liked him so far, I think he is a bottom pairing Dman but he can skate with forwards in the Dzone and everyone once in a while he pops out of nowhere to make a nice offensive play.
The Rangers announcers last night were hinting that Gilroy might not be in the best shape, and said Tim Murray thought that if Gilroy signed in Ottawa and did an entire summer of the Sens Summer Camp he would take a huge step forward in his game and become a solid player in Ottawa.
I liked him so far, I think he is a bottom pairing Dman but he can skate with forwards in the Dzone and everyone once in a while he pops out of nowhere to make a nice offensive play.
A 27 year old NHL player in his 3rd season might not be in the best shape? If that truly is the case then you would have to question his commitment..
He looks hesitant, which could either be a lack of confidence or just a transition to a new system. My only complaint. I'll trust the Murrays on this one.
The Sens have a lot of faith in their training/fitness program. I'm sure they think Gilroy could benefit from a strong Summer and training camp.
It hasn't been mentioned a whole lot, but Karlsson looks pretty damn muscular these days. His muscle mass has increased a lot in a very short time. Guys like Gilroy and Turris can be expected to follow suit.
so that's how it is? if you are not a big fan of Gilroy it has something to do with Lee?
I liked Lee and a week later could care less that he's not here.
I also like what the Sens are trying to do with a Gilroy style player over a Lee type player, more attacking etc.
So far i prefer Gilroy strictly on style of play for the sens but they are both nothing special (Lee and Gilroy)
If we had to decide right now to re-sign him or not, id say no - id want a similar kind of player but a better one. I find Gilroy seems to throw the puck away when he gets pressured - and that's not a trait im looking for in an offensive puck posession defenceman.
Hopefully he has more to show over the last 15 games.
A 27 year old NHL player in his 3rd season might not be in the best shape? If that truly is the case then you would have to question his commitment..
Not necessarily. Some teams just don't put the emphasis on off-season training that others do. The Rangers and the Senators (this year especially) are both known for investing a lot into trainers, nutrionists, etc. while other teams simply let their players do what they want.
Tortorella had a comment about how out-of-shape Blackhawk players seem to be when he acquired them for his teams.
Tim Murray said that once Gilroy and Turris "got on the program", they'd come back stronger and better. With respect to the Sens, I know they spent more this year than ever because Bryan was visibly angry watching practices last year and seeing guys lag on the ice.
Not necessarily. Some teams just don't put the emphasis on off-season training that others do. The Rangers and the Senators (this year especially) are both known for investing a lot into trainers, nutrionists, etc. while other teams simply let their players do what they want.
Tortorella had a comment about how out-of-shape Blackhawk players seem to be when he acquired them for his teams.
Tim Murray said that once Gilroy and Turris "got on the program", they'd come back stronger and better. With respect to the Sens, I know they spent more this year than ever because Bryan was visibly angry watching practices last year and seeing guys lag on the ice.
I guess its something I've taken for granted then... It seems like thats what we always hear about with our young guys so I just figured most teams did... Maybe thats why Stamkos gets so much publicity for his regimen...Cause not many others go above and beyond??
I guess its something I've taken for granted then... It seems like thats what we always hear about with our young guys so I just figured most teams did... Maybe thats why Stamkos gets so much publicity for his regimen...Cause not many others go above and beyond??
Stamkos, Spezza, and other guys often spend their offseasons training with the physical man-beast known as Gary Roberts. Roberts is well known for being an extreme fitness & conditioning expert and he beats the crap out of guys.
You can actually see how Spezza's game changed when he started working out with him at the beginning of last season.
Stamkos, Spezza, and other guys often spend their offseasons training with the physical man-beast known as Gary Roberts. Roberts is well known for being an extreme fitness & conditioning expert and he beats the crap out of guys.
You can actually see how Spezza's game changed when he started working out with him at the beginning of last season.
Can we ship Turris to wherever Roberts is nowadays?
People had a stupid attachment for Brian Lee so they now have a stupid resentment for Gilroy.
At least that's what I've gathered.
Exactly. Personally, I never understood the attachment to Lee. So what if he was a 1st round pick. It was obviously a bad choice and he didn't pan out for us. On to bigger and better things, and if Lee can stick with another team, then good for him.
Gilroy has the chance to be mentored by some solid veteran dmen and has a pretty big learning curve coming into a new organization. It doesn't happen overnight.
This guy has the tools and the Murray approach to the new NHL is to have active dmen who can step up in the play. Gilroy is a calculated risk at minimal cost.
Exactly. Personally, I never understood the attachment to Lee. So what if he was a 1st round pick. It was obviously a bad choice and he didn't pan out for us. On to bigger and better things, and if Lee can stick with another team, then good for him.
I wonder if Blackhawks fans have threads on their boards about how much they miss Cam Barker?
Gilroy played 13 minutes. He's physically weak and indecisive. Although he's a great skater he thinks he can take the same kin of risk as he did and college and that his speed will make up for it.
I rather he played on the wing instead to be honest lol.
Gilroy played 13 minutes. He's physically weak and indecisive. Although he's a great skater he thinks he can take the same kin of risk as he did and college and that his speed will make up for it.
I rather he played on the wing instead to be honest lol.
He's not even a good skater. Just terrible in every aspect of the game.
I like him. Our style is very good for aggressive pinches and puck entry into the zone. Notice his play on the Foligno goal. His aggressive pinch forces a turnover to O'Brien who covered for him on the point.
Gilroy has made mistakes defensively, no doubt, but our forwards are defensively responsible and this takes a lot of pressure off Karlsson, letting him cut back on the minutes a bit for the playoffs. You can already see teams are starting to key in on Karlsson physically, so we need to be very careful about risking injury and keeping him in tip top shape.
I like what Gilroy brings, definitely more good than bad, fits very well on the team IMO. And I did like Brian Lee a lot, I think the trade was a wash but Gilroy has more potential IMO as Lee clearly had 0 offensive ability to tap, Gilroy can be coached to be passable defensively.
Anyways, Gilroy is not a good defenseman. He tries to play like Karlsson but has none of the natural talent or intelligence. He's a poor man's Corvo aka exactly what I expected. Looking forward to his contract expiring .
Exactly. I'm shocked there aren't more people who feel this way. Must be alot of Brian Lee hate/Murray homers out there. He is supposed to add offensive balance and thus far he would be at best a minor upgrade on Brian Lee in that regard. Defensively he hasn't been a huge liability, but has been bailed out at least a few times by Bishop/Lehner due to his bad pinches. NYR game he wasn't that bad though defensively.
I want a defenseman that knows when to pinch, not a d-man that just does it because.... My main problem is the fact we traded a young solid d-man on good contract for him.
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