Last year everyone was calling T-Mac the coach of the year. Now because of bad luck, poor play, and lack of urgency by the players Tmac is in the dog house.
Last night if Wingles makes it, we all would be saying Tmac is brilliant!
This crowd is riduclious. Its like we have become Leaf fans...
Find me one post that says that... Because all I remember is people wanting to get rid of the coaching staff amidst the losing streak, and then when we finally started winning I don't remember anyone saying TMac should be coach of the year.
Last year everyone was calling T-Mac the coach of the year. Now because of bad luck, poor play, and lack of urgency by the players Tmac is in the dog house.
Last night if Wingles makes it, we all would be saying Tmac is brilliant!
This crowd is riduclious. Its like we have become Leaf fans...
The Wingels pick in the shootout was moronic the moment it was announced. I don't blame McLellan for much nor question his decisions very often but that one was incredibly stupid.
The Wingels pick in the shootout was moronic the moment it was announced. I don't blame McLellan for much nor question his decisions very often but that one was incredibly stupid.
I loved how Wingels couldn't even make it look good either, completely fell on his face. Way to go Todd, that'll help his confidence.
Given the cannon of a wrist shot Wingels has, I was shocked when he tried to make a move rather than just let it rip. My guess is TMac was as well.
There's no doubt that Wingels has skills but you got to utilize your players better than that. Wingels was injured earlier in the game and that was his first attempt ever at this level and it was with the game on the line. If he had gone first when Clowe did, that would've been disputable but understandable. However, putting Wingels out there and leaving Couture, Marleau, Boyle, and Burns on the bench is just plain stupid. If you want to use a rookie in the shootout for the first time, you put a little less pressure on the kid so he doesn't have that much more to think about. It's not putting him in the best spot to succeed and that's the coach's job.
Last year everyone was calling T-Mac the coach of the year. Now because of bad luck, poor play, and lack of urgency by the players Tmac is in the dog house.
Last night if Wingles makes it, we all would be saying Tmac is brilliant!
This crowd is riduclious. Its like we have become Leaf fans...
personally, i know for a fact i made a thread last year called fire tmac after our loss to toronto, during that 6 game losing skid. in no way did i believe he was coach of the year, then or even later on.
when he was hired, i was very disapointed it wasnt torterella coming in. i believe tmac is a very good assistant, but just isnt cut out to be a full fledge hc. he just has to many brainfarts to justify being in charge.
problem is, not to many other hcs out there except marc crawford?(dunno if he got a job or not). id give ricci the job, and hope he learns on the fly, worst that happens, we miss the PO, which if we dont change i think we miss anyway.
personally, i know for a fact i made a thread last year called fire tmac after our loss to toronto, during that 6 game losing skid. in no way did i believe he was coach of the year, then or even later on.
when he was hired, i was very disapointed it wasnt torterella coming in. i believe tmac is a very good assistant, but just isnt cut out to be a full fledge hc. he just has to many brainfarts to justify being in charge.
problem is, not to many other hcs out there except marc crawford?(dunno if he got a job or not). id give ricci the job, and hope he learns on the fly, worst that happens, we miss the PO, which if we dont change i think we miss anyway.
AFAIK, Crawford is available. I know people love to say, if you Fire TMac, then who?
For the interim, it doesn't matter. Get Crawford. Or Keenan. Or Brian Kilrea. It doesn't matter one bit (for interim). Hell, this team could probably do better with no coaching staff and just have Winnik or Thornton serve as a player-coach. TMac is not doing his part to help this team win, and, thus, he (And Shaw and Woodcroft) should be jettisoned. It's not that all the problems are due to him, BUT
1.) He's part of the problem.
and
2.) Sharks org needs playoff revenue. It's well known that coaching changes in mid-season lead to a short term boost, which here would help keep the Sharks in the playoffs and help keep playoff revenue.
and
3.) Such a move is not without precedent. Just ask Lou Lam about changing coaches a month before playoffs (like in 2000, one month to go, #1 seed, fires Ftorek and hires Larry Robinson, they go on to win the Cup).
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2011: Outcoached by Vigneault. 2012: Outcoached all season and postseason by Hitch.
2013: Outcoached by most coaches in the NHL. Who's left? 12 year olds on Xbox Live? SACK T-MAC NOW
personally, i know for a fact i made a thread last year called fire tmac after our loss to toronto, during that 6 game losing skid. in no way did i believe he was coach of the year, then or even later on.
when he was hired, i was very disapointed it wasnt torterella coming in. i believe tmac is a very good assistant, but just isnt cut out to be a full fledge hc. he just has to many brainfarts to justify being in charge.
problem is, not to many other hcs out there except marc crawford?(dunno if he got a job or not). id give ricci the job, and hope he learns on the fly, worst that happens, we miss the PO, which if we dont change i think we miss anyway.
Torts isn't going to work on this team. The fiery type coaches simply won't work here and will inevitably wear out their welcome in a few short years.
AFAIK, Crawford is available. I know people love to say, if you Fire TMac, then who?
For the interim, it doesn't matter. Get Crawford. Or Keenan. Or Brian Kilrea. It doesn't matter one bit (for interim). Hell, this team could probably do better with no coaching staff and just have Winnik or Thornton serve as a player-coach. TMac is not doing his part to help this team win, and, thus, he (And Shaw and Woodcroft) should be jettisoned. It's not that all the problems are due to him, BUT
1.) He's part of the problem.
and
2.) Sharks org needs playoff revenue. It's well known that coaching changes in mid-season lead to a short term boost, which here would help keep the Sharks in the playoffs and help keep playoff revenue.
and
3.) Such a move is not without precedent. Just ask Lou Lam about changing coaches a month before playoffs (like in 2000, one month to go, #1 seed, fires Ftorek and hires Larry Robinson, they go on to win the Cup).
The retreads won't get the Sharks anywhere.
You have TM who is a pretty good (not great) offensive coach. And then you have . . . I give TM credit for getting JT to modify his game. Big plus to coaches who can get stars to modify. I think TM uses Woodcroft for in game tweaks which worked pretty well a while back. I don't think their core strategy on the dzone is effective, not under Yawney, not now. Part of that is personnel and choices. Their goalie issues come from the org as well as themselves. They need to break away from the #1 is god treatment. Other teams have and have done well. I do think TM needs to come down with a heavy hand on the assistants and with DW modify the idea of what kind of defense they play as well as the player types that are needed.
Ultimately the same issue will hold for the offense. They need to give more license or fall into the low scoring trap of an extreme defense first system (see Sutter/Calgary, Sutter-Murray/LA, Boucher-Kitchen/TB, etc.) which will get them nowhere. If a coach needs to go defense first it needs to be where the defense becomes offense like Nashville, Phoenix, NYR, etc. I don't think the SJ players would take kindly to this latter kind of system.
You have TM who is a pretty good (not great) offensive coach. And then you have . . . I give TM credit for getting JT to modify his game. Big plus to coaches who can get stars to modify. I think TM uses Woodcroft for in game tweaks which worked pretty well a while back. I don't think their core strategy on the dzone is effective, not under Yawney, not now. Part of that is personnel and choices. Their goalie issues come from the org as well as themselves. They need to break away from the #1 is god treatment. Other teams have and have done well. I do think TM needs to come down with a heavy hand on the assistants and with DW modify the idea of what kind of defense they play as well as the player types that are needed.
Ultimately the same issue will hold for the offense. They need to give more license or fall into the low scoring trap of an extreme defense first system (see Sutter/Calgary, Sutter-Murray/LA, Boucher-Kitchen/TB, etc.) which will get them nowhere. If a coach needs to go defense first it needs to be where the defense becomes offense like Nashville, Phoenix, NYR, etc. I don't think the SJ players would take kindly to this latter kind of system.
Crawford coached behind the west coast express line in vancouver, and probably could have a cup, if Brian burke didnt give him such a godawful netminder.
Just thinking of what Crawford could do with the talent on this team makes me giddy
Last year everyone was calling T-Mac the coach of the year. Now because of bad luck, poor play, and lack of urgency by the players Tmac is in the dog house.
Last night if Wingles makes it, we all would be saying Tmac is brilliant!
This crowd is riduclious. Its like we have become Leaf fans...
Coach of the year? Not last year or any year. This team should have won the cup the last 3 years (not this year). They had the personnel, but were outcoached consistently. This team constantly would go into panic mode in their own end every game. At least that doesn't happen anymore. Unfortunately, now the Sharks have forgotten how to score. It's not all McLellan's fault. Doug Wilson has systematically dismantled this team leaving us with a few unproductive, overpaid “stars” and no supporting cast.
Coach of the year? Not last year or any year. This team should have won the cup the last 3 years (not this year). They had the personnel, but were outcoached consistently. This team constantly would go into panic mode in their own end every game. At least that doesn't happen anymore. Unfortunately, now the Sharks have forgotten how to score. It's not all McLellan's fault. Doug Wilson has systematically dismantled this team leaving us with a few unproductive, overpaid “stars” and no supporting cast.
Last year everyone was calling T-Mac the coach of the year. Now because of bad luck, poor play, and lack of urgency by the players Tmac is in the dog house.
Last night if Wingles makes it, we all would be saying Tmac is brilliant!
This crowd is riduclious. Its like we have become Leaf fans...
McLellan coach of the year last year? Are you kidding. This guy is the most underachieving coach around. This team should have won the Cup last year and the two years previous to that. Every game we would have a period when the team just completely collapsed and went into panic mode in its own end. This has actually been remedied somewhat, but we still let other teams crash our net at will. Dallas' 3rd goal last night wasn't an isolated instance.
Problems the Sharks have now which can be blamed on the coach are not hard to see.
1. They just do not protect their goalie from other teams crashing.
2. This system that doesn't work. No forecheck. Give up the opposing blue line and allow the other team to break out of their zone with no opposition. When in the other team's zone, just cycle it and cycle it to death. No one sets up in front and we end up with lots of long shots which the opposing goalie sees with no problem. Then no one crashes.
3. Frequent mental lapses including repeated bad passes by Thornton & Burns, icings because players don't bother to cross the center line before dumping the puck in, on the fly line changes when the other team has the puck in the neutral zone, etc.
4. Stupid decisions regarding player selection for shootouts.
5. No intensity.
