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03-11-2012, 10:49 PM
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here's my mock draft

Erie - McDavid - speaks for himself the kid is amazing and a great person (hope they move to Hamilton for his sake)
Kingston - McKweon - needs a stud d-man and he fits the bill
Petes - Cornell/McCann - petes NEED a centreman badly and someone to play with Ritchie and Nosad
Soo - Fabbri - this kid has some grind to him and will fit in well in the north
Guelph - Ho-Sang - has dropped to this position merely on teams wants and needs but Guelph can not let him go any further
Windsor - Cornell/McCann - again windsor needs a centreman like the petes
Mississauga - Middleton - close to McKweon status but is a stay at home d-man
Belleville - Dal Colle - speed kills in this rink, only Ho-sang fits the bill here but Dal Colle has all the tools
Kingston - Bennett - the offensive player that will compliment Kujawinski
Oshawa - Hiddink - with the Gens losing some offense they'll need some replacement scoring
Saginaw - Jacobs - they can steer this d-man from NCAA
Owen Sound - Spinozzi - yes you heard it hear first this kid is the real deal in the show and the Attack need a d-man
Sarnia - Herbst - first goaltender taken in the first round
Sudbury - Petti - another strong winger that has some soft hands
Brampton - Hargrave - big power forward who has come to the forefront since Fabbri was suspended
Barrie - Perlini - the first player that will come to the OHL and not declare NCAA
Kitchener - Watson - strong forward who has been in McCann's shadow all season
Ottawa - Lindo - here is the player from the OHL cup that will be a star and come up the rankings - made the mistake last year with Perkin but Lindo is the real deal
Niagara - Schmalz - the forward, huge upside and will have to work on his skating but OHL shot for sure
Plymouth - Duchesne - another solid d-man
Niagara - Bourne - building on size since they will be losing lots this year
London - MacInnis - only the Knights could pull this one off and convince him to come to London.

thoughts ?

second round will be great as well but we don't know the rankings of the teams with all the trading that went on
Way to go Petes96, nice list. You have most of the ingredients, with some extra special sauce thrown in. I think Salituro should be in the first round. I really like your Perlini pick. Some great minds think alike. A few weeks ago, I stated that Perlini would be a 10-15 pick, and would be first US kid to go in the draft, and now I hear your similar sentiments.

Herbst has been shaky the last few weeks against Don Mills and Marlies, and unless he shines in the OHL cup, he will be hard pressed to go in the first round.

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Word is YSE took the last wildcard spot for the OHL cup. Not sure if I can support this choice when there are better candidates in my opinion. Barrie for sure, and others that would have been my choice over the Express. They apparently struggled huge this weekend. Any comments?

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Word is YSE took the last wildcard spot for the OHL cup. Not sure if I can support this choice when there are better candidates in my opinion. Barrie for sure, and others that would have been my choice over the Express. They apparently struggled huge this weekend. Any comments?
Final teams/schedule gets announced today....there are still 3 spots unannounced.....Barrie has to get one of those spots!

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Final teams/schedule gets announced today....there are still 3 spots unannounced.....Barrie has to get one of those spots!
Fact is word was given to HP and YSE last night.

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I know that this is my first posting but I've watched this age group for years and have a pretty good handle on the players and can comment on a few. Of course the OHL cup next weekend will bring at least one player up the rankings and will go around or two ahead of where they should actually go. example
Perkin

Nice to see another Petes fan!
Have you seen Cornel play? What kind of style does he play and how does his game compare to Fabbri. Also, what do you think about the rumours of the Petes looking at Mckeown instead of a forward all together?

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Fact is word was given to HP and YSE last night.
Correct.

There where two spots open as of last night, and Huron Perth and York Simcoe have been offered the spots.

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Word is YSE took the last wildcard spot for the OHL cup. Not sure if I can support this choice when there are better candidates in my opinion. Barrie for sure, and others that would have been my choice over the Express. They apparently struggled huge this weekend. Any comments?
The OHL cup is a showcase tournament. Apart from the teams who won their leagues, they choose teams based who the scouts want to see, not necessarily due to season success.

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Have you seen Cornel play? What kind of style does he play and how does his game compare to Fabbri. Also, what do you think about the rumours of the Petes looking at Mckeown instead of a forward all together?


Cornell is a great two way centreman (over 6' now) and has great vision. I've watched him play at least 6 times this year and he fits into the the Petes line-up right away and will contribute. Reminds me a lot of Jordan Staal's game. But I will say that if McKeown falls to third the Petes will take him for sure and then trade for a centreman in the off season. McKeown is the top 96 in my books but McDavid takes over that status. I like Fabbri and have watched him a fair bit this year as well but we have enough wingers that need playing time (Ritchie, Nosad, Lino, Thompson) and he fits in the top 6 on any team

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Seriously, you can tell me that OHL Central Scouting can see more prospects on YSE than Barrie? Seriously?

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Seriously, you can tell me that OHL Central Scouting can see more prospects on YSE than Barrie? Seriously?
YSE have three player that are on the radar (Coric, Safric and Locke). I would say all three will go in the 2nd to 4th rounds. Barrie as three players (Hughes, Healy and Chaykowsky). But they are later round kids. Hughes (2nd) Healy (5th-7th) Chaykowsky (5th-7th)
So I would take YSE over Barrie

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another year, more kids trying to manipulate the draft, what else is new

i thought for a second that this year might be different and they may go to where they selected. guess i was wrong.
Every year it's the same thing and it's not going to change. Can you really blame the kids it's their future they are putting on the line. I guess you can say its different when a kid only wants to play for only one or two teams. Like Domi was always coming to the OHL but I'm pretty sure he was only willing to play for Kitchener or London. Marcantuoni only willing to come to the OHL to play for Kitchener. Hamilton to Niagara, Gudbranson to Kingston . Lessio to Oshawa, Ebert to Windsor. It's nothing new.

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Seriously, you can tell me that OHL Central Scouting can see more prospects on YSE than Barrie? Seriously?
Yes. OHL Central Scouting has more players rated higher on York Simcoe then Barrie.

I happen to agree, I think they have a better field of talent then Barrie.

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Were Oakville and Peteborough considered.

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Yes. OHL Central Scouting has more players rated higher on York Simcoe then Barrie.

I happen to agree, I think they have a better field of talent then Barrie.
While everything is still fresh in your mind and before we get into a ``Lovefest`` again with the two 3-4 GTHL teams at the OHL cup could we get a rundown from you on which kids might have stood out in your eyes during the weekend?

For me one definate standout was Sinclair from Hamilton, he certainly played a key role in his teams success. Also of note was Nanji fro STA, while small in size to me he was one of the best defensemen in the tournament- not sure however if this will translate to high draft pick as size is likely an issue. At forward MacIntyre and Clarke for Whitby showed up the most and likely improved their ranking. Biggest disappointment had to be STA, (York Simcoe not far behind)team just did not gel. Watching some of the antics of their coach not so surprised. Talking about coaching, hats off to the Hamilton crew, quite the transition.

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Cornell is a great two way centreman (over 6' now) and has great vision. I've watched him play at least 6 times this year and he fits into the the Petes line-up right away and will contribute. Reminds me a lot of Jordan Staal's game. But I will say that if McKeown falls to third the Petes will take him for sure and then trade for a centreman in the off season. McKeown is the top 96 in my books but McDavid takes over that status. I like Fabbri and have watched him a fair bit this year as well but we have enough wingers that need playing time (Ritchie, Nosad, Lino, Thompson) and he fits in the top 6 on any team
Has Cornell proved himself against top competition? I wish he was at the OHL cup.

I agree with u completely on Mckeown. I think there is a strong chance he will go to Kingston. He plays very similar to Drew Doughty. Hosang played with Ritchie last year, that would be a good fit if Hosang is still there. I can see Fabbri fitting with Ritchie very well in the future. To me drafting Hosang is a risk/reward more than any other player.

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I agree with pretty much everything said by Arsenault, but what really stood out for me was the coaching with Hamilton.

They made the right decisions and gave their kids the very best chance to succeed time and time again. Normally I tend to discount coaching somewhat good or bad, but what I witnessed demonstrated to me how important good coaching can be when the difference between teams is so minute.

Hats off to the Bulldogs on a very successful weekend, you certainly earned your spot at the OHL Cup this week!

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Has Cornell proved himself against top competition? I wish he was at the OHL cup.

I agree with u completely on Mckeown. I think there is a strong chance he will go to Kingston. He plays very similar to Drew Doughty. Hosang played with Ritchie last year, that would be a good fit if Hosang is still there. I can see Fabbri fitting with Ritchie very well in the future. To me drafting Hosang is a risk/reward more than any other player.
Although Ho-Sang has some high end talent I don't think he's a good fit in Peterborough and not a Dave Reid type of player. Ideally Ho-Sang would be great in Belleville on their rink but he won't last that long. As far as Cornell goes he has proven to have a high compete level and extremely skilled player. He hasn't been up against the high competition because truthfully his team is not very good and therefore never really been given the opportunity. But that being said its about future potential and this kid has it.

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Arsenault, Lets not talk about the 'Antics' of coaching. This thread is about the players. If people dislike the coach, his contact info is up on the teams website.

Some players that I really thought stood out are...
Liam Grande - Whitby
Bobby MacIntyre - Whitby

Marc Sinclaire - Hamilton
Connor Murphy - Hamilton

John Di Lorenzo - Southern Tier Admirals
Matt Schmalz - Southern Tier Admirals

Justin Wain - York Simcoe Express
Kyle Locke - York Simcoe Express
Travis Dermott - York Simcoe Express

I havent seen much of Dermott this season, but he really impressed me this weekend.


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Although Ho-Sang has some high end talent I don't think he's a good fit in Peterborough and not a Dave Reid type of player. Ideally Ho-Sang would be great in Belleville on their rink but he won't last that long. As far as Cornell goes he has proven to have a high compete level and extremely skilled player. He hasn't been up against the high competition because truthfully his team is not very good and therefore never really been given the opportunity. But that being said its about future potential and this kid has it.
When u have 50 aaa minor midget teams at a tournament, The top teams (Knights, Rebels, Marlboros, etc) look like they play aaa and the rest is houseleague. MY point is there is a huge gap. Of course someone will look alot better playing against weaker competition. For that reason it can be hard to judge exactly how good he is. Cornell's jump from Upper CAnada might be greater than say some of the GTHL boys, who played against tougher competition all season long. Alot of people think he has top 5 hands and puckhandling in this draft. His work ethic is incredible.


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Lets not talk about the 'Antics' of coaching. This thread is about the players. If people dislike the coach, his contact info is up on the teams website.

Some players that I really thought stood out are...
Liam Grande - Whitby
Bobby MacIntyre - Whitby

Marc Sinclaire - Hamilton
Connor Murphy - Hamilton

John Di Lorenzo - Southern Tier Admirals
Matt Schmalz - Southern Tier Admirals

Justin Wain - York Simcoe Express
Kyle Locke - York Simcoe Express
Travis Dermott - York Simcoe Express

I havent seen much of Dermott this season, but he really impressed me this weekend.
well Tiger. Coming from the ETA its nice to see Whitby come away with the title. I didn't get to make it to Hamilton but will be going to the the OHL cup this week at some point. How did Clark and Cummins play from Whitby. And Coric from YSE

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When u have 50 aaa minor midget teams at a tournament, The top teams (Knights, Rebels, Marlboros, etc) look like they play aaa and the rest is houseleague. MY point is there is a huge gap. Of course someone will look alot better playing against weaker competition. For that reason it can be hard to judge exactly how good he is. Cornell's jump from Upper CAnada might be greater than say some of the GTHL boys, who although playing at the same level, his league was weaker overall.
I agree with you to a degree though. There are high end players playing in the GTHL yes but there are also high end players playing else where. The GTHL is what we hear the most of but its not the only league. There are great players outside of Toronto that will have huge impacts in the OHL more so than the GTHL players. Typically the GTHL has high skilled players and the outside leagues have the grit and determination. Both are needed on every team just depends on what each teams needs are.

for example if a team has all kinds of toe draggers and no finishers or "role" players then they will be an easy team to defend against.

really what I'm saying is look outside the box there are players that have great talent in the smaller centres.

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chewer, What I've heard is that with number two they will be taking a forward. They are undecided on who that will be. Apparently some people within the organization think ho-sang may have peaked. However, they want someone who is going to put butts in the seats and I think Ho-sang is that guy.

This weeks OHL cup will go a long way on deciding what route they go

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If Kingston does go for a forward with number 2 and doesn't pick HoSang who should they pick Fabbri,McCann,Del Colle or Cornell?

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chewer, What I've heard is that with number two they will be taking a forward. They are undecided on who that will be. Apparently some people within the organization think ho-sang may have peaked. However, they want someone who is going to put butts in the seats and I think Ho-sang is that guy.

This weeks OHL cup will go a long way on deciding what route they go
Seems like a bit of a ridiculous claim to say a 15yo has peaked... especially not one expected to go as high as 2nd overall. This isn't a kid picked in the 15th round.

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Where can you find out more about the OHL teams from an Off Ice perspective?

As a parent of a player that will likely go further down in the draft and will likely try out and then spend another year at Tier 2. Where can we find out about the teams off ice performance? These players 6th-15th round do not get as much attention for sure but he's still 16 and it might be better overall from a "life" perspective to pass on playing in the OHL at all, than to play for a team that doesn't look after their players holistically.

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