Renney switched them for 2 shifts but both lines looked even worse
2 shifts isn't enough of a chance to see if the lines work.
An Omark-Gagner-Hemsky line will never work on a consistent basis, it's a horrible mix. Put Omark with a goal scorer (Eberle) and put Hemsky with a goal scorer (Hall).
Hemsky and Hall should have never been broken up, that was our best combo this season.
Pretty simple really IMO.
Jones has been useless for a while now. Khabibulin was great. Peckham may have ended his Oiler career. Gagner will clearly never win a Selke. Petry wasn't as good as usual but solid nonetheless. Omark wasn't too bad, although I still don't think he has a place on this team.
The boys came through, eh? Biggest game of the season. Show those noobz what tanking really looks like.
I've been trying to stay positive and not mope about but its like being beaten about with feathers for six straight years without any relent. I can't take many more soft supple lashes.
I keep coming back for more. It's disheartening that my (previously) die hard father (who's in his 60's and preached patience last year) has had enough. "Zero progress outside of the powerplay."
Anyway, I think that the concerns about Hall are legitimate. This is his first taste of failure. Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins have been in losing situations before and are probably able to put some perspective on the situation. Hall... well, it's getting hard to watch his growing lack of enthusiasm after scoring goals and his frustration after empty netters.
I keep coming back for more. It's disheartening that my (previously) die hard father (who's in his 60's and preached patience last year) has had enough. "Zero progress outside of the powerplay."
Anyway, I think that the concerns about Hall are legitimate. This is his first taste of failure. Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins have been in losing situations before and are probably able to put some perspective on the situation. Hall... well, it's getting hard to watch his growing lack of enthusiasm after scoring goals and his frustration after empty netters.
I'm pretty sure Windsor was awful when he first got there. They turned into a powerhouse later on.
But yes, next year we have to start making improvements for the sake of these three kids.
Tambo has a ton of work ahead of him. He will have to pull some serious magic out of his rear to right this ship. Could you imagine if we are in contention for a top three pick next year as well? Mother of God.
If they are, I'm out. So should most of this board. No question the fairweather fans will have been long gone if they aren't by the end of this abortion of a season already.
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Playoff tickets are $99.00 for all games whether 2 or 12 Great Deal
Still available? Might get those, along with a jersey. I guess I'd get Pysyk on it. That's the problem (if you want to call it that) with junior hockey, is that the players don't stay long enough to warrant getting a personalized jersey. I'm still holding off on my Eberle or Hall jersey til this team deserves my money again.
2 shifts isn't enough of a chance to see if the lines work.
An Omark-Gagner-Hemsky line will never work on a consistent basis, it's a horrible mix. Put Omark with a goal scorer (Eberle) and put Hemsky with a goal scorer (Hall).
Hemsky and Hall should have never been broken up, that was our best combo this season.
Pretty simple really IMO.
IIRC Renney tried Hall-Gagner-Hemsky and it didn't do so great. The only line that can succeed is the one that has the Nuge on it. Gagner is useless and will nullify the skill he has on his wings no matter who's there.
Anyway, I think that the concerns about Hall are legitimate. This is his first taste of failure. Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins have been in losing situations before and are probably able to put some perspective on the situation. Hall... well, it's getting hard to watch his growing lack of enthusiasm after scoring goals and his frustration after empty netters.
I mentioned that earlier in the thread, Hall is starting to look really apathetic out there and i can't blame him when half the team plays like they don't give a damn.
I'm really concerned that he will want out by the end of next season if the crap show continues. He just wants to win and there is a disconnect with the team because it seems like a lot of the players (mainly the vets) don't have that will to win.
We had to tank extra hard tonight because Montreal is junk. The mistakes had to be extra obvious and glaring to outtank them. We had to come as close as possible to giving them goals without actually putting the puck in our own net. Such an ugly game.
I don't know why I continue to be amazed at how stupid some of this team plays while others completely lack composure in any important situation. I'm surprised there's not fistfights in the locker room.
I actually told someone today at work that I thought we'd finish on a bit of a hot streak and climb to 26th. We'd pass Montreal, Minny and one of the east teams.
What an idiot I am. The only good thing is that with Montreal and Minnesota winning tonight I can't see how we don't finish at least 29th and I can't imagine how Tambellini and Renney could possibly be brought back next season.
Of course Khabby had to be extra brutal tonight, of course Peckham had to be a major reason we lost. His new nickname should be "Tank". If we get Yakupov, he should be rewarded with a five year two-way deal so he can pull down some sort of pro cheque. Ryan Jones has been terrible too. If he doesn't get a goal you don't even notice him unless he's getting pushed off of pucks or trying to go through three guys.
One day when we have goaltending and can remotely play defense as a team we will win boatloads of games walking away. We're going to have the top PP this season and finish 29th or 30th. If we couldn't score goals we would have clinched 30th weeks ago. So embarassing. Then of course the more games we lose, the more the offense checks out. Eberle's disappearing for periods at a time now like he did at the end of last season and you can hardly blame him. I want it to be next year already, too.
I mentioned that earlier in the thread, Hall is starting to look really apathetic out there and i can't blame him when half the team plays like they don't give a damn.
I'm really concerned that he will want out by the end of next season if the crap show continues. He just wants to win and there is a disconnect with the team because it seems like a lot of the players (mainly the vets) don't have that will to win.
IIRC Renney tried Hall-Gagner-Hemsky and it didn't do so great. The only line that can succeed is the one that has the Nuge on it. Gagner is useless and will nullify the skill he has on his wings no matter who's there.
Hall and Hemsky have obvious chemistry, i thought that line did fine.
The line did better with Nuge and believe it or not Horcoff, see a common theme there? Gagner was the problem on that line as you said. Gagner only seems to have chemistry with Eberle. Gagner and Hemsky together has been proven fail not only this season but in past seasons as well.
Yeah right. Renney would probably scratch Weber for Peckham or Barker. The guy is a complete moron.
Hah no doubt, Weber would be nestled into the third pairing with Barker for the season.
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I keep coming back for more. It's disheartening that my (previously) die hard father (who's in his 60's and preached patience last year) has had enough. "Zero progress outside of the powerplay."
Anyway, I think that the concerns about Hall are legitimate. This is his first taste of failure. Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins have been in losing situations before and are probably able to put some perspective on the situation. Hall... well, it's getting hard to watch his growing lack of enthusiasm after scoring goals and his frustration after empty netters.
I try not to think about that but it is a bit of a concern. If Hall gets fed up with this circus and decided he had enough I would be pretty devestated. We gotta get this **** show on the road man.
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If they are, I'm out. So should most of this board. No question the fairweather fans will have been long gone if they aren't by the end of this abortion of a season already.
I think if it were to happen we would see a difference in attendence at Rexall. Like a previous poster said, I hope the draft party is barren or the Oiler fans there boo like mad when they are on camera.
Hall and Hemsky have obvious chemistry, i thought that line did fine.
The line did better with Nuge and believe it or not Horcoff, see a common theme there? Gagner was the problem on that line as you said. Gagner only seems to have chemistry with Eberle. Gagner and Hemsky together has been proven fail not only this season but in past seasons as well.
Gangers feburary point streak started with Hall/Hemmer, his snipe in buffalo!
Chances are the second line XXXX is probably MPS or Omark's, and the third line XXXX is probably Smyth's.
The only real improvement we could see is signing a top-4 RHD.
They need to sign acquire one much better top 4 defender. I'm starting to think maybe you jettison Dubnyk as well and go with a Harding-Khabby 1-2 (much more comfortable with those two).
Hemsky has to step his **** up next year. The time may be coming to move Gagner too, he should relatively decent value because of his one hot stretch this year.
I mentioned that earlier in the thread, Hall is starting to look really apathetic out there and i can't blame him when half the team plays like they don't give a damn.
I'm really concerned that he will want out by the end of next season if the crap show continues. He just wants to win and there is a disconnect with the team because it seems like a lot of the players (mainly the vets) don't have that will to win.
Our vets are such a disappointment. I'm actually a little shocked they are as lame as they have been. I know we are going to rely on the young studs but come on...do these guys have no pride?
I'm pretty sure Windsor was awful when he first got there. They turned into a powerhouse later on.
But yes, next year we have to start making improvements for the sake of these three kids.
Yeah, but Windsor's struggles were fleeting. As is normally the case in junior hockey it didn't take long for their talent level to overwhelm the rest of the OHL.
I can't wait for the Oilers to troll us right before the draft by re-signing Tambellini and Renney. Gonna be fun times.
<-- Credit goes to The Nemesis.
