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03-09-2012, 09:06 AM
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Might want to change your avatar to Kadri

Haha, I should change my avatar to Zigomanis.

Also, Kadri can't fit the criteria. Brian Burke would not draft a kid from Ontario, he hates Canada. Must be some sort of mistake. The only organization in the NHL that cheers for Canada to lose at the Olympics!

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03-09-2012, 09:28 AM
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Okay, we get it. Sarcasm!
Anyway, it's lookin like we're going to have a great chance to draft Gally, and possibly have a crack at the lottery.

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03-09-2012, 09:30 AM
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Why? Because he has higher upside? Do you really want to waste time on Euros, Americans, and Western Canadians still? Draft a role-player from Toronto who plays with heart and blocks shots. High-end skill is meaningless if it isn't from Ontario.
Just the size and skill factor is why I would pick him ahead. No doubt Guance is going to be a solid NHLer, but he seems more like a checking center.

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03-09-2012, 10:08 AM
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Kessel + Lupul + Schenn
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Nash + 1st


Yakupov-Galchenyuk-Nash

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I'd love that, I can't stand Kessel's apathy out there on the ice, so I'd much prefer to pay Nash his salary while getting the one guy who's very likely to step right in (Yakupov), especially since I doubt Kessel sticks around once he's a UFA on this loser team with the ridiculous media pressure.

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03-09-2012, 10:11 AM
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Kessel + Lupul + Schenn
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Nash + 1st
I'd do this if it was possible. Columbus may not though. They want a new face to the franchise.

I'd want to do a bigger deal though:

Grabovski, Reimer, Lupul, Kessel, Schenn

for

Mason, Nash, 1st round pick

Don't see CLB doing it though.

Kessel~Nash
Mason~Reimer
Schenn, Grabovski, Lupul < 1st round pick though

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03-09-2012, 10:15 AM
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i hope somehow we can get nash but man things are going to be hard come draft time.

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i hope somehow we can get nash but man things are going to be hard come draft time.
I just want to see a cap miracle...it's horrendous.

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I just want to see a cap miracle...it's horrendous.
things will change around some how.

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I'd do this if it was possible. Columbus may not though. They want a new face to the franchise.

I'd want to do a bigger deal though:

Grabovski, Reimer, Lupul, Kessel, Schenn

for

Mason, Nash, 1st round pick

Don't see CLB doing it though.

Kessel~Nash
Mason~Reimer
Schenn, Grabovski, Lupul < 1st round pick though
LOL... no

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03-09-2012, 10:19 AM
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I just want to see a cap miracle...it's horrendous.
cap is the least of the team's worries.

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03-09-2012, 10:21 AM
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LOL... no
Would you trade a 1st overall pick for Lupul, Schenn and Grabovski? Especially if you are Columbus?

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columbus is not going to be trading first rounder at all.

Tbh, I rather just not go for nash and get johansen at somehow someway

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03-09-2012, 10:26 AM
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things will change around some how.
LR, it feels like we've been saying this for 40 years

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cap is the least of the team's worries.
The cap is the least of our worries??

Please enlighten us.

6.5m to sign 5 guys next year 4 of them RFAs and the other a #1 G.

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03-09-2012, 10:29 AM
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Would you trade a 1st overall pick for Lupul, Schenn and Grabovski? Especially if you are Columbus?
At this point of the season, or come draft time? Columbus is hot right now and could pass Edmonton, not to mention you could lose the lottery. I wouldn't trade Yakupov, but I would trade the 1st round pick.

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03-09-2012, 10:37 AM
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The cap is the least of our worries??

Please enlighten us.

6.5m to sign 5 guys next year 4 of them RFAs and the other a #1 G.
Cap increase would help that. That does tend to happen every year

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Cap increase would help that. That does tend to happen every year
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03-09-2012, 10:44 AM
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This team better stop playing with my emotions soon and decide whither it is playoffs or not. We are in the race for a playoff spot and in a race for a top 6 pick at the same time, how often can we say that? I think we are better off not making the playoffs because this team couldn't even give a nosebleed to the opposing team.

I feel this draft will have a lot of NHL-ready talent throughout the draft, and we need some of that. Burke seems to be tired of developing and developing and developing and wants results. A NHL-ready talent from this draft might be want we need to push our prospects, that are on the verge of cracking the roster, over the top.

Alex Galchenyuk reminds me of Mikhail Grabovski with a good mix of Phil Kessel. It looks like he is a complete two-way player, always knowing where to be to be in position in both zones. Definitely the Mats Sundin type we are missing on this team.

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I don't see how that should be sarcasm.

Kadri is from Ontario, and has high-end skill. He's the perfect fit.

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03-09-2012, 10:48 AM
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Interesting quote from Yakupov in the interview with Craig Button:

"I have hands, but not like Gally's hands".

That says a lot coming from the Yak himself..

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And in another video, Mckenzie says that Patrick Roy has been challenging Grigorenko to become a more complete player and is back checking more and has greater work ethic without the puck now.

Seems compeltely different than what that one article said about him "falling" because of his one dimensional play and inconsistent effort.

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columbus is not going to be trading first rounder at all.

Tbh, I rather just not go for nash and get johansen at somehow someway
Ryan Johansen? That's just not happening.

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When's Gally supposed to be back?

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Kadri and Grigorenko as top two centers.
Kessel and Lupul as top two right wingers (I guess Lupes will have to adjust)
Nash and Kulemin as top two left wingers.
I am fine with all that.

Grabovski and Connolly as bottom 2 centers equating to 9.5 million 3rd and 4th line.
Galchenyuk-Grabovski down the middle - AKA "The Belarussian Pipeline"

Kulemin, Ashton and MacArthur go in a deal for Nash.
Get rid of Lombardi, Armstrong, Connolly and Komisarek for anything.
Trade Bozak by the deadline if Colborne is ready for the show
Sign Vokoun in the summer for 3 years, sign Moen for 2.

After one more year..when Gally is ready to step in..

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Alex Galchenyuk ($3.110m)* / Phil Kessel ($5.400m)
Nazem Kadri ($1.720m) / Mikhail Grabovski ($5.500m) / Joffrey Lupul ($5.000m)**
Travis Moen ($2.500m)** / Joe Colborne ($1.100m) / Matt Frattin ($1.350m)**
Mike Brown ($0.736m) / David Steckel ($1.100m) / Jay Rosehill ($0.600m)

*assuming Top 5 pick base ELC + bonuses
**contract raise/new contract signing

DEFENSEMEN
Dion Phaneuf ($6.500m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($1.325m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Jake Gardiner ($1.116m)
John-Michael Liles ($3.875m) / Cody Franson ($0.800m)
Korbinian Holzer ($0.700m)

GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($3.500m) / James Reimer ($1.800m)

BUYOUTS: Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)

Leaves you with well over 5 million in cap space (assuming the cap stays where it is). High end production counterbalanced with low-cost ELC/second contract players. Plenty of flexibility and competition.


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Why do people here worry about the Cap so much. Leafs have some bad contracts, but none of them are a long term hindrance OR Gomez-esque.

Let it all play out in the offseason before you say "OMG we have only 7M cap to sign X amt of players."

It's...March right now.

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