I Want galenchyuk but i know somehow burke will pick forseberg =_=
Well he's a big body top 6 winger right? At least fills some sort of need. Acquire a #1 centre and draft a winger or draft a #1 centre and acquire a winger.
It's a high-end forward..can the Leafs really complain? We're not exactly busting at the seams in that area now are we.
I think we all want to see a #1 center drafted, hence, Galenchyuk or Grigorenko. This team will never be a contender without a legit #1 center and some contenders will multiple #1. Leafs have no potential #1 center in the system and even the depth at the NHL level is abysmal.
But I would be fine with picking a high end forward or defensemen if Galen and Grig aren't available.
Have a bad feeling we will end up with a top 5 pick, and Burke takes some shocker "truculence style" forward, that amounts to nothing more then a tough 2nd, 3rd liner a few years down the road.
It is exciting to think a 1C may be drafted by the Leafs. Here is what I have read from the potential Centers available and who they compare to...
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Mikhail Grigorenko - I have seen Kozlov comparisons and MALKIN comparisons. Big difference. He has the size and skill to be a 1C hands down. However work ethic has become a big question mark lately and I am not quite sure Burke will be drooling over a Russian player with work ethic issues.....
Alex Galchenyuk - Lately I have read many compare him to Anze Kopitar. Along with Grigorenko he has the size and skill to be a 1C. He is also American. Ask Cherry who he thinks Burke would pick...He also is coming off major surgery and will not be ready next year....However many think if this kid was healthy Grigorenko would not be in the conversation for top center in this draft.
Radek Faksa - This kid has been becoming the "Fast" up and comer going in to this years draft. In mid season rankings some had him in the 10-15 draft position. Lately I have seen him being mentioned in the top 3. He is a Big Center like Grigorenko and Galchenyuk with more a physical presence. I have read comparisons to Eric Stall....HHMMM
Brendon Gaunce - The Center prospect most likely to wear a C in the NHL. Ontario kid...(I don't agree with Cherry fully) who plays a very "Complete" 200 ft game. His offensive upside is not considered in the realm of the other three, however brings the mental intangibles that any team would covet. I have yet to see a true player comparison but have read he has the mental preperation of a Crosby with a skill set of a Mike Richards.
As a Leaf fan I would like....Well any of them. This season has truely been a disapointment....However I get some solace reading about these kids.
werd is there is no CBA , werd is the NHL wants the players to get a lower % cut of $
you think the NHLPA will just say "so you guys signed a huge tv deal, turned the atlanta team into something profitable and you want players to take less money? sure thing just use some lube please"
you guys are going to be disappointed, unless its a 1-2 pick, you guys might be waiting along time for that #1 center. Even if we luck out where we draft, it'll be a while for that guy to develop and some people here have already lost it.
you think the NHLPA will just say "so you guys signed a huge tv deal, turned the atlanta team into something profitable and you want players to take less money? sure thing just use some lube please"
Just giving you a heads up on whats coming down the pipes.
If the Leafs are at the 5th spot and can't grab either Galchenyuk nor Grigorenko, then they should absolutely trade down, pick up one of Gaunce/Girgensons and re-stock the cupboards a bit with the additional 2nd rounder (Dalton Thrower + Henrik Samuelsson/Oscar Dansk?).
Or trade that acquired 1st (keeping the 2 2nds we would have) in a deal for Nash.
we lack top end talent; management HAS to pick the Best Forward Available .... ideally it's one of Gally, Yaks, or Grigs; with the former being our main target
you guys are going to be disappointed, unless its a 1-2 pick, you guys might be waiting along time for that #1 center. Even if we luck out where we draft, it'll be a while for that guy to develop and some people here have already lost it.
You think many care if the stud prospect takes a few seasons in the AHL to be groomed into a solid star, ala. the Detroit way?
The picks are all about the long term health of the organisation, not about instant gradification.
This is basiclly the end of year 4 of this retool/rebuild , we still have a long way to go.
You think many care if the stud prospect takes a few seasons in the AHL to be groomed into a solid star, ala. the Detroit way?
The picks are all about the long term health of the organisation, not about instant gradification.
This is basiclly the end of year 4 of this retool/rebuild , we still have a long way to go.
so you would be happy for the prospect to develop but okay to lose the "good" players we have by then? You think guys like Kessel etc would want to stay on a team like that? So it's always going to be building for the future but it's okay to ignore the present? It's always the what if future scenarios, if we keep rebuilding, one day we're be good, maybe or maybe not, but the "so called intrigue in potential" could make us bonifide contenders. Things don't always work the way you planned it to be.
we lack top end talent; management HAS to pick the Best Forward Available .... ideally it's one of Gally, Yaks, or Grigs; with the former being our main target
Agreed, we have plenty of solid prospects, what we need are more blue chipers.
we lack top end talent; management HAS to pick the Best Forward Available .... ideally it's one of Gally, Yaks, or Grigs; with the former being our main target
Yes but if you read what I said, the situation would be if none of the BFA were in fact available. Assume Leafs are 6th and it goes like this..
Then what? Take a d-man like Ceci? I wouldn't mind him so much.. but I'd rather grab a forward).
If thats the situation we're in.. trade down 3-4 spots to a team like Tampa which has TONS of picks in the top 60, grab Gaunce/Girgensons/Faksa at 10 - take two of Dalton Thrower, Cristoval Nieves, Oscar Dansk, Zachary Stepan or Henrik Samuelsson.
Doesn't help us find the "elite" center we're looking for (or so we think..who knows how any of the guys I listed turn out) but adds a good base to our prospect pool.
How many of the top 10 are really NHL ready?
The leafs need a top center. I believe Galy and Grigs are big enough, with enough skill to make an immediate impact and compete for a job. Although Gaunce has potential and size, I dont see his skill as an NHL ready prospect, without a few years in the AHL to develop.
Therefore, its Galy or Grigs. The leafs have enough developing talent, and need something sensational. (not named kadri )
Alright..FFS, this has to be emphasized again and again:
Galchenyuk won't be ready next year. The guy is literally coming off of missing an entire season thanks to surgery and will need to play another year in junior to get his conditioning even half way up to NHL ready.
Grigorenko might be, but I would find it foolish to pencil in a rookie at your no. 1 center spot and expect him to explode like Geno or Ovie. He needs time too.
Then what? Take a d-man like Ceci? I wouldn't mind him so much.. but I'd rather grab a forward).
If thats the situation we're in.. trade down 3-4 spots to a team like Tampa which has TONS of picks in the top 60, grab Gaunce/Girgensons/Faksa at 10 - take two of Dalton Thrower, Cristoval Nieves, Oscar Dansk, Zachary Stepan or Henrik Samuelsson.
Doesn't help us find the "elite" center we're looking for (or so we think..who knows how any of the guys I listed turn out) but adds a good base to our prospect pool.
leafs have a pretty decent prospect pool. Look at the Marlies. It just lacks the blue chip prospects, with high potential.
so you would be happy for the prospect to develop but okay to lose the "good" players we have by then? You think guys like Kessel etc would want to stay on a team like that? So it's always going to be building for the future but it's okay to ignore the present? It's always the what if future scenarios, if we keep rebuilding, one day we're be good, maybe or maybe not, but the "so called intrigue in potential" could make us bonifide contenders. Things don't always work the way you planned it to be.
If Kessel does not want to resigned with us, then fine , trade his a$$ before before FA.
How is drafting in the top 5 this year , ignoring the present?
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