Does the redline make the the trap easier for teams?
If so, I say HELL NO... Don't bring it back.
Teams are going to trap regardless. Look at that 1-3-1. Some teams when they have the lead are just putting one guy in the neutral zone and stacking 4 guys on the blue line(Rangers, Bruins etc)
These coaches are brilliant and can pretty much figure out a way to choke out a game with any rules in place.
You know which surefire safety measure we're never going to see because it eats away the bottom line? A larger (wider) ice surface.
I'm not suggesting IIHF standards, but there's a happy medium where you allow for more speed by offering places to duck contact.
Tell me how much sense this makes: in a league where many players are 6'2" and 200+ lbs of muscle, skaters are going 30+ mph, and shots are coming in over 100 mph on the reg, they're using the same size ice they did when guys were smaller, slower, and less protected.
Look out on the ice when you're at a game: these guys are monsters and they look so bunched together. The ice HAS to get a little bit wider, but the owners of teams that sell out full barns every night stand to lose serious bucks from that proposition.
Teams are going to trap regardless. Look at that 1-3-1. Some teams when they have the lead are just putting one guy in the neutral zone and stacking 4 guys on the blue line(Rangers, Bruins etc)
These coaches are brilliant and can pretty much figure out a way to choke out a game with any rules in place.
bruins dump and chase game beats it.
red line tip dump and go hit a defenseman. then they control the puck with the cycle and no one takes it away from lucic krejci horton when they want it
Not sure why they would even think about bringing back the red line. They say it's to reduce concussions but we're seeing those happen with huge body checks or getting hit against the boards. How is the red line going to help when Boychuk got concussed? How would it have helped Savard?
Seems like the NHL is just desperate to try anything even if it doesn't make a lick of sense.
You know which surefire safety measure we're never going to see because it eats away the bottom line? A larger (wider) ice surface.
I'm not suggesting IIHF standards, but there's a happy medium where you allow for more speed by offering places to duck contact.
Tell me how much sense this makes: in a league where many players are 6'2" and 200+ lbs of muscle, skaters are going 30+ mph, and shots are coming in over 100 mph on the reg, they're using the same size ice they did when guys were smaller, slower, and less protected.
Look out on the ice when you're at a game: these guys are monsters and they look so bunched together. The ice HAS to get a little bit wider, but the owners of teams that sell out full barns every night stand to lose serious bucks from that proposition.
I'm in favor of it. I thought they should have done it when they were building all the new barns in the 90's like the new garden.
Look at film from the Orr days. That rink was even smaller than today's rinks and it looks huge because the players were so much smaller. And yes, slower.
You know which surefire safety measure we're never going to see because it eats away the bottom line? A larger (wider) ice surface.
I'm not suggesting IIHF standards, but there's a happy medium where you allow for more speed by offering places to duck contact.
Tell me how much sense this makes: in a league where many players are 6'2" and 200+ lbs of muscle, skaters are going 30+ mph, and shots are coming in over 100 mph on the reg, they're using the same size ice they did when guys were smaller, slower, and less protected.
Look out on the ice when you're at a game: these guys are monsters and they look so bunched together. The ice HAS to get a little bit wider, but the owners of teams that sell out full barns every night stand to lose serious bucks from that proposition.
The main reason the scoring was higher was because their were only 21 teams and every team had talented players. 4th lines were scoring goals.
No, not true at all. It had a lot to do with goaltending...more specifically poor goaltending. It also had a lot to do with teams having guys who simply werent that good on the bottom lines. In comparison to today there are talented guys who play both ways as well as better (bigger) goaltending.
There is no question that today, top to bottom, there is far more talent than in the 80s.
If it did turn into a clutch and grab league again, Lucic may very well slide himself into the top 20 players in the league. He would benefit. Seguin would not, however.
2 line pass violations used to be my least favorite thing ever.
No, not true at all. It had a lot to do with goaltending...more specifically poor goaltending. It also had a lot to do with teams having guys who simply werent that good on the bottom lines. In comparison to today there are talented guys who play both ways as well as better (bigger) goaltending.
There is no question that today, top to bottom, there is far more talent than in the 80s.
This is true. now we get all the former Soviet Union talent that we didn't get much of in the 80's. Only the few that defected.
It would really, really hurt the Bruins. It would take away the basic way they get their space through the Neutral zone. The back half of the Neutral zone would become a tip pass festival with no place to go. That said I do think it would reduce boarding and charging some and would like to see it. And oh yeah, CALL CHARGING CALL IT EARLY CALL IT OFTEN. CALL it the way it was supposed to be called, you idiots.
The main reason the scoring was higher was because their were only 21 teams and every team had talented players. 4th lines were scoring goals.
Pretty much the opposite of this
The NHL had 9 less teams and a continent less of players to draw from.
The higher scoring is because there were more crap players in the league and those crap players make mistakes which lead to entertaining goals like when dmen fall down turning backwards, or goalies let in shots from the red line.
IMO, the NHL is drawing from its deepest talent pool since the original 6 days. And the goals/game reflects that.
You know which surefire safety measure we're never going to see because it eats away the bottom line? A larger (wider) ice surface.
I'm not suggesting IIHF standards, but there's a happy medium where you allow for more speed by offering places to duck contact.
Tell me how much sense this makes: in a league where many players are 6'2" and 200+ lbs of muscle, skaters are going 30+ mph, and shots are coming in over 100 mph on the reg, they're using the same size ice they did when guys were smaller, slower, and less protected.
Look out on the ice when you're at a game: these guys are monsters and they look so bunched together. The ice HAS to get a little bit wider, but the owners of teams that sell out full barns every night stand to lose serious bucks from that proposition.
You are right, hitting would go down.
So you pretty much every other entertaining aspect of hockey. The game would be all about angling players off to the corner and "low percentage areas".
Also I read somewhere that retrofit would be in the range of 15mil per arena due to the fact the arenas sloped their concrete to the current rink size.
So you pretty much every other entertaining aspect of hockey. The game would be all about angling players off to the corner and "low percentage areas".
Also I read somewhere that retrofit would be in the range of 15mil per arena due to the fact the arenas sloped their concrete to the current rink size.
I wouldn't go to IIHF standards, but if you want to keep the speed of the game, you've got to give them space to keep the best players active.
Concussions will not stop until players STOP lining up their SHOULDER w/ an opponent's CHIN, period. Start showing bantams and juniors how to hit like Neely did, like men. A lot of times Neely just used his forearms, and followed through exploding w/ a push.
Also, see waaaaay too many guys turning into the boards when they know a hit is coming. The worst guy for that? Former Bruin Mark Stuart. He must do it three times a game when I watch the jets. He's gonna get killed.
Redline will do nothing but cause more whistles, stoppages, and choke offense even more than it already is. Especially considering the defensive systems implemented by the majority of NHL coaches today. Are they ****ing high?
I don't agree w/ the equipment issue, but fine, change the equipment, too.
Touch icing, keep hearing arguments to take that out. How many guys were actually concussed retrieving pucks? As opposed to those that were hit late in open ice? Still, rather see that go than to bring back 2 line offsides. Too easy to bottle up teams in the neutral zone as it is.
Accept that the Bertuzzi incident happened, that it was an anomaly, and allow the players to police themselves again. Take out the instigator rule. Intentionally hurt a guy on the other team, accept someone will hurt you, or your star player. That's after you sit for 5-10-15-25 games, depending on how big and often of a colostomy bag you are.
Yeah, i know, I'm dreaming. But, that's what they do in a perfect world. But, it's a pc world now, next everyone will be wearing little bells...
*tinkle tinkle...I'm comin' for ya...tinkle tinkle....*
It sucks. They need to take the trapezoid out and let goalies play the puck anywhere back there and keep the red line out...
Easily just added 10 whistles per game.,,and a brand new generation of New Jersey Devils hockey...We be INCREDIBLY easy to clog up the neutral zone and bog down speed..Will also require the Bruins and other teams to look for Mike Green's and Erik Karlsson's because you are going to need a "4th forward" that can carry over the red line with speed.
Only plus is, teams will play the dump and chase more meaning the players will be even bigger and tougher and maybe create more fights with more teams playing hard nosed hockey.
Concussions will not stop until players STOP lining up their SHOULDER w/ an opponent's CHIN, period. Start showing bantams and juniors how to hit like Neely did, like men. A lot of times Neely just used his forearms, and followed through exploding w/ a push.
Also, see waaaaay too many guys turning into the boards when they know a hit is coming. The worst guy for that? Former Bruin Mark Stuart. He must do it three times a game when I watch the jets. He's gonna get killed.
Redline will do nothing but cause more whistles, stoppages, and choke offense even more than it already is. Especially considering the defensive systems implemented by the majority of NHL coaches today. Are they ****ing high?
I don't agree w/ the equipment issue, but fine, change the equipment, too.
Touch icing, keep hearing arguments to take that out. How many guys were actually concussed retrieving pucks? As opposed to those that were hit late in open ice? Still, rather see that go than to bring back 2 line offsides. Too easy to bottle up teams in the neutral zone as it is.
Accept that the Bertuzzi incident happened, that it was an anomaly, and allow the players to police themselves again. Take out the instigator rule. Intentionally hurt a guy on the other team, accept someone will hurt you, or your star player. That's after you sit for 5-10-15-25 games, depending on how big and often of a colostomy bag you are.
Yeah, i know, I'm dreaming. But, that's what they do in a perfect world. But, it's a pc world now, next everyone will be wearing little bells...
*tinkle tinkle...I'm comin' for ya...tinkle tinkle....*
Right on brother.... 2-1 games with 20 shots a piece.... Boring trap hockey played by all, for all 60 minutes...Going to be a disaster.
