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04-04-2012, 11:15 AM
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Didn't Backstrom come back relatively quick after he started skating? The docs obviously won't clear him unless they are convinced he's ready.
I mean it's possible if he could return soonish, if all goes well or it could go bad and he's gets shut down, we'll see. I think we'll have a decent idea by the end of the reg. season, no symptoms and he'll very possibly be back, 1st or 2nd round (if we make it) ... any symptoms he's done

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04-04-2012, 11:23 AM
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Honestly, there's not much reason for him to start skating a 40 minute session right now if there's not some hope that he can still play this year. Otherwise they'd probably just tell him to rest and start training again off the ice.

That's not to say he's a lock to come back, but in my mind he's skating right now so that they can gauge him and see if it's a possibility. The Backstrom comparison is a good one, I suppose. Toews comes to mind, as well.

Not all concussions are Savard type concussions...

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04-04-2012, 11:24 AM
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Good point. By the same logic, I'd make the same point about using Savard as some kind of gold-standard/benchmark for all things concussion. Or using Bergeron. Or anybody, for that matter. More awful comparisons, IMO. There is a medical protocol that needs to be followed, followed by a hockey protocol (is he back to game shape, etc). There is no doubt that the Bruins will follow both. The fact that this protocol failed Marc Savard has negligible influence on how that protocol will serve another player. If/when there are enough Savards, then the protocol(s) will change. Until then, second-guessing the protocols based on the experience of ONE Boston Bruin is baseless.

If we see Horton again this year, it will be because he's been medically cleared by all of the proper channels, and then 'hockey cleared' by another set of channels. If we don't see him until next year sometime, it's because he failed to clear one or both of those channels now. Period. And I for one will not worry any more or less about his condition whether he comes back in May, June, October or January.
Thank you!

You err on the side of caution, but the protocol is the protocol. Nathan has to be sure to be honest with himself and the doctors. As long as he does that, he'll be declared ready when he passes everything.

But to constantly spout Savvy this and Savvy that while ignoring or even ridiculing examples that don't fit that profile is shortsighted at best.

I am not counting on seeing Horton play again this season, but I'm not going to pretend to know what's best.

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04-04-2012, 11:28 AM
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NHL Bruins tweet:

Julien said 33, 37, 55 and 30 will not make the trip. No official update on 55, but CJ seemed confident that there'd be positive news.^BISH

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04-04-2012, 11:39 AM
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Julien said 33, 37, 55 and 30 will not make the trip. No official update on 55, but CJ seemed confident that there'd be positive news.^BISH
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The bruins have had such awful luck when players get injured in the past few seasons, its time for them to dodge a huge bullet

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04-04-2012, 11:49 AM
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Julien said 33, 37, 55 and 30 will not make the trip. No official update on 55, but CJ seemed confident that there'd be positive news.^BISH
Bruins should have a D then of 44,21,54,47,27,14 ... eeegads LOL

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04-04-2012, 11:52 AM
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Bruins should have a D then of 44,21,54,47,27,14 ... eeegads LOL
What about Zanon? He should play over Krug. I think Zanon will be a very important part of this team in the playoffs, especially if Boychuk misses time.

Corvo they'll probably play over Krug because Torey's not eligible for the playoffs and Corvo & Mottau should stay sharp in case they're needed.

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Doug MacLean on HockeyCentral at noon reporting Boychuk is apparently going to be ready for Game 1.


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Long as Horton's healthy enough to carry a squirt bottle, he'll be a useful addition!

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Doug MacLean on HockeyCentral at noon says that Boychuk is apparently going to be ready for Game 1.
Thanks for the heads up! Hope he's right.

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04-04-2012, 12:13 PM
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What about Zanon? He should play over Krug. I think Zanon will be a very important part of this team in the playoffs, especially if Boychuk misses time.

Corvo they'll probably play over Krug because Torey's not eligible for the playoffs and Corvo & Mottau should stay sharp in case they're needed.
LOL forgot him...Im hungry

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04-04-2012, 12:31 PM
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Doug MacLean on HockeyCentral at noon reporting Boychuk is apparently going to be ready for Game 1.
Not saying he's wrong, but how does he know?

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amazing news if this is true

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Not saying he's wrong, but how does he know?
From the Bruins.

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The fact that you think Horton would return and skate on the 4th line tells me all I need to know about your level of comprehension and insight on this matter.
Do you know how common it is for stars to play 3rd or 4th line minutes, or only power play minutes upon their return from a lengthy injury? LOL they did it with savvy, its a very if common practice in the NHL. If anyone is lacking comprehension
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04-04-2012, 01:15 PM
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Do you know how common it is for stars to play 3rd or 4th line minutes, or only power play minutes upon their return from a lengthy injury? LOL they did it with savvy, its a very if common practice in the NHL. If anyone is lacking comprehension
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Agreed.

I think they could give him 10 mins or so TOI plus ome PP time...not lean on him too much on the 1st line right away

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04-04-2012, 01:16 PM
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Do you know how common it is for stars to play 3rd or 4th line minutes, or only power play minutes upon their return from a lengthy injury? LOL they did it with savvy, its a very if common practice in the NHL. If anyone is lacking comprehension
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Whatever you say, boss.

For the record, you said nothing about the 3rd line or PP minutes in the post I was responding to. That is a completely different animal than putting someone coming back from a concussion on the freaking energy line.

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04-04-2012, 01:47 PM
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Fwiw, some teams may play injured players on the third and fourth lines to acclimate them, but how does that fix our problem on the first line? Sorry, Pevs doesn't cut it for me in anything other than one short series against a finesse team.
Give Pevs some time to get his game back. He's far & away the best option there unless you're still having flashbacks of Jordan Caron's great 2 weeks. You add speed and a defensive conscience to that line with Pevs.

With all due respect, you didn't think our forwards were good enough to win a cup last year until they did. And you've been complaining about our offense all season while we are in the top 3 in the league.

I think they'll be fine. Pevs missed over a month. He'll get better as we go along and that line will eventually find some chemistry. Also nice to have the option to put Seguin up there if necessary.

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04-04-2012, 03:58 PM
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Doug MacLean on HockeyCentral at noon reporting Boychuk is apparently going to be ready for Game 1.
I listened to that podcast and I don't recall hearing that. They seemed unsure as all of us are. I could be wrong, but didn't hear that.

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Agreed.

I think they could give him 10 mins or so TOI plus ome PP time...not lean on him too much on the 1st line right away
Don't know why we're even contemplating a Horton return at this point regardless of him skating before practice. That is still a long way from returning.

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From the Bruins.
Why would the Bruins give Doug McLean info on Boychuk and nobody else?

From everything I've heard, the Bruins are still waiting on the medical report.

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Sometimes with knee injury it takes a few days to figure out what is wrong. They usually don't even do MRI's to look for tears until some of the swelling has gone down.

It is possible they don't know yet. It is also possible they know some things but not others.

My fingers are crossed that it is going to be something that will have him back in time for game #1, but hard to say. I am just glad he will have a little over a week between last night's injury and when they suit up for game 1.

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Whatever you say, boss.

For the record, you said nothing about the 3rd line or PP minutes in the post I was responding to. That is a completely different animal than putting someone coming back from a concussion on the freaking energy line.
Oh for heavens sake, third line, forth line. My point is low minutes and off of the top 2 lines. Stop splitting hairs.

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04-04-2012, 10:41 PM
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Don't know why we're even contemplating a Horton return at this point regardless of him skating before practice. That is still a long way from returning.
Not jumping the gun - I was chiming in the argument above..IF he were to return (when deemed "ready" by people much much smarter than me or you). It is not unthinkable to limit his ice time and let him get his legs back on PP - ease him in if you will - in fact I think it's pretty feasible

I've honestly given up on speculating WHEN he will return, I want it to be when he is truly ready, but I will also point out that there is NO proof that I know of that he is more likely to sustain another concussion if he returns this year during playoffs than next season - if there is I would love to read up on it... Assuming he is actually feeling 100%

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