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04-04-2012, 01:47 PM
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Fwiw, some teams may play injured players on the third and fourth lines to acclimate them, but how does that fix our problem on the first line? Sorry, Pevs doesn't cut it for me in anything other than one short series against a finesse team.
Give Pevs some time to get his game back. He's far & away the best option there unless you're still having flashbacks of Jordan Caron's great 2 weeks. You add speed and a defensive conscience to that line with Pevs.

With all due respect, you didn't think our forwards were good enough to win a cup last year until they did. And you've been complaining about our offense all season while we are in the top 3 in the league.

I think they'll be fine. Pevs missed over a month. He'll get better as we go along and that line will eventually find some chemistry. Also nice to have the option to put Seguin up there if necessary.

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Doug MacLean on HockeyCentral at noon reporting Boychuk is apparently going to be ready for Game 1.
I listened to that podcast and I don't recall hearing that. They seemed unsure as all of us are. I could be wrong, but didn't hear that.

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Agreed.

I think they could give him 10 mins or so TOI plus ome PP time...not lean on him too much on the 1st line right away
Don't know why we're even contemplating a Horton return at this point regardless of him skating before practice. That is still a long way from returning.

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From the Bruins.
Why would the Bruins give Doug McLean info on Boychuk and nobody else?

From everything I've heard, the Bruins are still waiting on the medical report.

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Sometimes with knee injury it takes a few days to figure out what is wrong. They usually don't even do MRI's to look for tears until some of the swelling has gone down.

It is possible they don't know yet. It is also possible they know some things but not others.

My fingers are crossed that it is going to be something that will have him back in time for game #1, but hard to say. I am just glad he will have a little over a week between last night's injury and when they suit up for game 1.

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Whatever you say, boss.

For the record, you said nothing about the 3rd line or PP minutes in the post I was responding to. That is a completely different animal than putting someone coming back from a concussion on the freaking energy line.
Oh for heavens sake, third line, forth line. My point is low minutes and off of the top 2 lines. Stop splitting hairs.

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Don't know why we're even contemplating a Horton return at this point regardless of him skating before practice. That is still a long way from returning.
Not jumping the gun - I was chiming in the argument above..IF he were to return (when deemed "ready" by people much much smarter than me or you). It is not unthinkable to limit his ice time and let him get his legs back on PP - ease him in if you will - in fact I think it's pretty feasible

I've honestly given up on speculating WHEN he will return, I want it to be when he is truly ready, but I will also point out that there is NO proof that I know of that he is more likely to sustain another concussion if he returns this year during playoffs than next season - if there is I would love to read up on it... Assuming he is actually feeling 100%

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Great news about Horton!

I remember countless people telling me that Bergeron was done for the season after game 4 against Philly too...

We all know how that turned out.

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Updates in the Boston Herald:

On an eventful day at Ristuccia Arena yesterday, the news seemed all good for the Bruins.

The first and most interesting development: Injured winger Nathan Horton skating, likely for the first time since early February, shortly after he suffered a concussion/neck injury on Jan. 22.

And then there was a suggestion from coach Claude Julien that defenseman Johnny Boychuk, who appeared to have incurred a serious left knee injury Tuesday against Pittsburgh, may not be hurt as badly as feared.

And finally, there was the on-going progress by injured goaltender Tuukka Rask, who looked good taking shots from Horton in the morning before the team’s practice.


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/h...od_vibrations/

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Updates in the Boston Herald:

On an eventful day at Ristuccia Arena yesterday, the news seemed all good for the Bruins.

The first and most interesting development: Injured winger Nathan Horton skating, likely for the first time since early February, shortly after he suffered a concussion/neck injury on Jan. 22.

And then there was a suggestion from coach Claude Julien that defenseman Johnny Boychuk, who appeared to have incurred a serious left knee injury Tuesday against Pittsburgh, may not be hurt as badly as feared.

And finally, there was the on-going progress by injured goaltender Tuukka Rask, who looked good taking shots from Horton in the morning before the team’s practice.


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/h...od_vibrations/
All awesome news, great to hear.

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People really need to stop with figuring out where Horton plays when he comes back in the playoffs.

He's not coming back until next year even if he's feeling good and wants to play.

The Bruins will not allow a repeat of what happened when Savvy came back vs. Philly.

I hope he comes back but only when he's 110%.

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Oh for heavens sake, third line, forth line. My point is low minutes and off of the top 2 lines. Stop splitting hairs.
Generally play-off time the third line will get double the ice time of the 4th...that's not splitting hairs..

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Generally play-off time the third line will get double the ice time of the 4th...that's not splitting hairs..
This, especially in any OT situation.

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People really need to stop with figuring out where Horton plays when he comes back in the playoffs.

He's not coming back until next year even if he's feeling good and wants to play.

The Bruins will not allow a repeat of what happened when Savvy came back vs. Philly.

I hope he comes back but only when he's 110%.
I don't entirely agree. I think that if Horton is cleared medically, and once he's been practicing enough that he's back up to speed, he will be in the lineup.

I understand the fear, and that a players' health is #1, but this is their job. They are paid a lot of money to do their job, and all professional hockey players know that this job comes with the risk of injury. I fully expect the Bruins to take all steps in ensuring that Horton has fully recovered - but once Horton has cleared all hurdles, he will play. Besides, do you think he wants to sit out if he's healthy? Not a chance! He's push with as much weight as he can muster to get himself into the show.

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Oh for heavens sake, third line, forth line. My point is low minutes and off of the top 2 lines. Stop splitting hairs.
You say I'm splitting hairs, I say you're backpeddling.

If that was your point, that's what you should have said. I'm supposed to infer that by saying "put him on the 4th line" that you actually meant "keep him off the top 2 lines and give him limited minutes?"

I get how sometimes people accuse others around here of taking things too literally or splitting hairs, but those are two completely different points/arguments. Not so sure how you get from one to the other, but it really doesn't matter.

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People really need to stop with figuring out where Horton plays when he comes back in the playoffs.

He's not coming back until next year even if he's feeling good and wants to play.

The Bruins will not allow a repeat of what happened when Savvy came back vs. Philly.

I hope he comes back but only when he's 110%.
seriously you need to stop with this rhetoric. he wouldnt be out skating for 40 min if there wasnt still a chance to return during the playoffs. that doesnt mean hes going to sneak back into the lineup and reinjure himself. it simply means hes gone through all the proper medical tests in order to resume playing hockey.

if he has some symptoms pop back up during skating he will be shut down but if he feels 100% they will continue to move forward. if the bruins are in this thing long enough for him to get in game shape their is zero reason he wont play.

everyone here knows its still a long shot but that doesnt mean we cant hope for the best possible scenario that he returns in time to bury a few game winners on our way to back to back cups.

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Updates in the Boston Herald:

On an eventful day at Ristuccia Arena yesterday, the news seemed all good for the Bruins.

The first and most interesting development: Injured winger Nathan Horton skating, likely for the first time since early February, shortly after he suffered a concussion/neck injury on Jan. 22.

And then there was a suggestion from coach Claude Julien that defenseman Johnny Boychuk, who appeared to have incurred a serious left knee injury Tuesday against Pittsburgh, may not be hurt as badly as feared.

And finally, there was the on-going progress by injured goaltender Tuukka Rask, who looked good taking shots from Horton in the morning before the team’s practice.


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/h...od_vibrations/
Great news all around Hope to see all 3 at some point in the p/o. Would be awesome for Horton to inspire this team again like he did last year.

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I don't entirely agree. I think that if Horton is cleared medically, and once he's been practicing enough that he's back up to speed, he will be in the lineup.

I understand the fear, and that a players' health is #1, but this is their job. They are paid a lot of money to do their job, and all professional hockey players know that this job comes with the risk of injury. I fully expect the Bruins to take all steps in ensuring that Horton has fully recovered - but once Horton has cleared all hurdles, he will play. Besides, do you think he wants to sit out if he's healthy? Not a chance! He's push with as much weight as he can muster to get himself into the show.
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seriously you need to stop with this rhetoric. he wouldnt be out skating for 40 min if there wasnt still a chance to return during the playoffs. that doesnt mean hes going to sneak back into the lineup and reinjure himself. it simply means hes gone through all the proper medical tests in order to resume playing hockey.

if he has some symptoms pop back up during skating he will be shut down but if he feels 100% they will continue to move forward. if the bruins are in this thing long enough for him to get in game shape their is zero reason he wont play.

everyone here knows its still a long shot but that doesnt mean we cant hope for the best possible scenario that he returns in time to bury a few game winners on our way to back to back cups.
I'm not saying to stop hoping but you have to be realistic when dealing with these kinds of situations.

It doesn't matter if he's feeling better, symptom free and in shape. The Bruins will not jeopardize his long term health just to win the Cup.

Savvy was like this and look what happened. The Bruins are going to be even more cautious with Horty. He's a huge part of this team but you have to look at the potential long term ramifications before making a final decision.

Also, while it would be awesome to get him back it is going to mess with the team's chemistry on ice.

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I'm not saying to stop hoping but you have to be realistic when dealing with these kinds of situations.

It doesn't matter if he's feeling better, symptom free and in shape. The Bruins will not jeopardize his long term health just to win the Cup.

Savvy was like this and look what happened. The Bruins are going to be even more cautious with Horty. He's a huge part of this team but you have to look at the potential long term ramifications before making a final decision.

Also, while it would be awesome to get him back it is going to mess with the team's chemistry on ice.
I see a significant difference between the two situations. Savard was experiencing symptoms but he still continued to play. Horton was shut down as soon he started experiencing symptoms so he could begin a recovery. Also everyone's brain reacts differently. Obviously its going to be Hortons decision whether he wants to make a come back this year or the next. Its a long process, but for him to be on the ice skating is encouraging and its a good stepping stone IMO. We've seen last year how long the playoffs can be, so anything is possible.

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I'm not saying to stop hoping but you have to be realistic when dealing with these kinds of situations.

It doesn't matter if he's feeling better, symptom free and in shape. The Bruins will not jeopardize his long term health just to win the Cup.

Savvy was like this and look what happened. The Bruins are going to be even more cautious with Horty. He's a huge part of this team but you have to look at the potential long term ramifications before making a final decision.

Also, while it would be awesome to get him back it is going to mess with the team's chemistry on ice.
There is no doubt they will be more cautious then with Savard, but he's clearly not shut down for the season.

If the docs clear him and he says he wants to go, you gotta give him a chance.

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According to the official Bruins Twitter feed:

"Julien said Boychuk has a mild knee sprain, day-to-day.^BISH"

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According to the official Bruins Twitter feed:

"Julien said Boychuk has a mild knee sprain, day-to-day.^BISH"
*exhales* Fantastic news.

Great to hear Horton is on skates too. I'm not going to worry about that though...If he gets cleared and can come back for any playoff time, that would be awesome, if not, this is just a great first step that I'm glad to hear.

Here comes Larry Bird out of the locker-room! Haha.

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People really need to stop with figuring out where Horton plays when he comes back in the playoffs.

He's not coming back until next year even if he's feeling good and wants to play.

The Bruins will not allow a repeat of what happened when Savvy came back vs. Philly.

I hope he comes back but only when he's 110%.
Including you. You are guessing like everyone else .Unless you have some sort of inside info.if you do, please share.

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According to the official Bruins Twitter feed:

"Julien said Boychuk has a mild knee sprain, day-to-day.^BISH"
Nice news.

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