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03-11-2012, 11:17 AM
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In the off-season

There's little to no doubt that the Chicago Blackhawk's need some work done in the upcoming off-season, not a complete overhaul, like some on these boards are suggesting, but some tweaks, for certain.

The biggest flaw in Chicago's game is their complete lack of physicality. They're routinely being out-hit every game, and when the going gets rough, they're really out of their element.

Along with this, their PK needs some work, though it has been better as of late.

This is my take on next year's roster, and how I think the Blackhawk's can fix their problems.

Sharp - Toews - Kane
Stalberg - Arnott - Hossa
Bickell - Bolland/Kruger - Hayes
Winnick- Gaustad - Carcillo
Shaw

The forward group may look different than what I have above, I think it all really depends on how Bolland and Bickell perform in the upcoming playoffs, providing Chicago makes it.

What I have suggested above, isn't much, but it gives the Hawks more toughness on the wings with Winnick and Carcillo, with Winnick and Gaustad really helping out our PK.

The biggest need in the off-season is a 2nd line center. Sharp seems reluctant on wanting to play Center, even though we had him as our 2nd line center when we won the cup.

There isn't a whole lot on the UFA market this summer for centers, unless we want to trade for one, and I can't see Bowman giving up the picks it would take, and we all know Frolik isn't going to fetch a 2nd line center on his own. So based on Bowman's love of reclamation projects, and older players, I'm going to say we get Arnott as our 2nd line center. It's not ideal, but it works. I guess.

I know I'm going to be jumped on, but I think one of Bolland or Kruger should go. They'd both bring back nice pieces in a trade. It all depends on the playoffs.

Forwards leaving: Mayers, Frolik, Morrison, Brunette, Kruger/Bolland


Keith - Seabrook
Leddy - Hjalmarsson
Olsen- Garrison (UFA)
Carkner

The reason I left off Montador is due to his current concussion, and from what I'm hearing, it sounds bad. He may take off all of next season, in which case Olsen could move up in his spot, but it would mean we'd still need a 7th d-man, and I think Carkner would be perfect for that role.

He can play good defense, and log minutes in a game without looking completely out of place. He'd be like Scott, in that he can fight, the biggest difference being, is that Carkner can play more minutes per game, taking some of the weight off our top guys, and isn't too bad of a hockey player to boot.

It would also add another element of toughness to the team.

Another move I think would help is signing Jason Garrison to a contract, providing he doesn't resign with the Panthers. This would give us a giant shot from the point on the PP, which would be a nice help, as our PP has struggled the last couple of seasons.

Defensemen leaving: Lepisto, O'Donnell, Oduya


Goalies:

Crawford
Lindback

I really think Crawford is in a sophmore slump, which a lot of goalies seem to go through in this league.

I don't know what it would take to pry Lindback out of Nashville, or if they'd be even willing to give him up, but I really like the Hawks goaltending with both Crawford and Lindback. If Crawford struggles Lindback can, and will step up.

Goalies leaving: Emery

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03-11-2012, 11:26 AM
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Jason Arnott is not a #2 C or anything close to it anymore

Your team is still weak depth wise and Hossa still has no help

Arnott would be another Brunette for Hossa
Stalberg has proven he isn't a top 6 LW

Team needs to get a real #2 C and your D is weak

Olsen is liability because of his poor skating and Garrison is not that good defensively and will cost an arm and leg (He wants big $$$)

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You can probably add Saad to the roster, who he replaces is beyond me. But he prides himself on being a two way player, so maybe replace him with Winnick. I mean the guys not going to play consistently on the fourth line - what's the point, but he go up and down the line-up with ease, from top line to fourth line, based on his game. See how he does. Have him play with Hossa. His game is a lot like Hossa's. Drop Stalberg down to the fourth line.

Arnott isn't my first choice for a 2nd line center, but frankly, I don't think we're going to get one, not without "selling the farm", so to speak.

Arnott gives us 15-20 goals, 40 points.

What's our 2nd line center now giving us?

Kruger - 8 goals, 20 points.
Bolland - 17 goals 31 points.

Bolland is best suited for the third line.

Garrison isn't going to get big bucks. He probably just doesn't want to sign in Florida. You could sign him to a 3.75 million contract no problem, I would imagine. And with the cap going up, does it matter if you throw an extra million on that?

He's not terrible defensively either. Mind you I haven't watched a lot of Panthers games this season, but I've caught five or six, and I've always had my eye on Garrison, and he didn't scream "weak defense" to me.

Olsen is only a maybe. That's up in the air due to Montador.

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You can probably add Saad to the roster, who he replaces is beyond me. But he prides himself on being a two way player, so maybe replace him with Winnick. I mean the guys not going to play consistently on the fourth line - what's the point, but he go up and down the line-up with ease, from top line to fourth line, based on his game. See how he does. Have him play with Hossa. His game is a lot like Hossa's. Drop Stalberg down to the fourth line.

Arnott isn't my first choice for a 2nd line center, but frankly, I don't think we're going to get one, not without "selling the farm", so to speak.

Arnott gives us 15-20 goals, 40 points.

What's our 2nd line center now giving us?

Kruger - 8 goals, 20 points.
Bolland - 17 goals 31 points.

Bolland is best suited for the third line.

Garrison isn't going to get big bucks. He probably just doesn't want to sign in Florida. You could sign him to a 3.75 million contract no problem, I would imagine. And with the cap going up, does it matter if you throw an extra million on that?
Garrison isn't worth that nor is it smart to pay a #5/6 dman 4.7M (Like you would be doing adding 1M)

Arnott hasn't scored 20 goals or 40 pts in almost 2 yrs.. So not sure how you can say he is good for it

Before this year Brunette was good for 20G + 40/50 pts as well

Kruger is 21 ,, I would rather go with Kruger/Pirri as #2 then waste money/roster on another fading vet in Arnott (A guy who was horribly exposed by Hawks in 2010 playoffs if you remember when he was destroyed by speed of game)

And Gaustad will be signed for big money to be a #3 C somewhere ,, Not a 4th line C

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Garrison is easily going to get 3.5-4 million.

Pirri is not ready, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

Gaustad, big money? From who? How much you talking? He won't get more than 2.

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If the cap goes up $8 mil, FA money is going to fly

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Here is a radical idea (Should Wilson not be fired in SJ)

To Hawks
D Douglas Murray (2.5M x 1 yr)
G Antti Niemi (3.8M x 3 yrs)

To Sharks
D Niklas Hjalmarsson (3.5M x 2 yrs)
G Corey Crawford (2.66M x 2 yrs)

Sharks get young dman they wanted and were willing to give up a 1st/3rd for a few summers ago + a cheaper goalie signed for 1 yr less (Sharks have good goalie prospects in pipeline for longterm needs)

Hawks get bottom pairing dman who is showing some signs of decline + goalie who well won cup and is better then Crawford

Shakeup type deal for both teams

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Sharp - Toews - Kane
Saad/Jayes - Roy - Hossa
Bickell - Bolland - Shaw
Stalberg - Kruger - Mayers
Frolik, Bollig

Keith - Seabrook
Oduya - Leddy
Montador - Olsen
Lepisto/UFA filler

Miller
Emery

Trade Hammer, first, Morin, and Crawford for Miller and Roy.

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Garrison is easily going to get 3.5-4 million.

Pirri is not ready, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

Gaustad, big money? From who? How much you talking? He won't get more than 2.
The Preds just gave up a 1st rounder for him ,, Pahlsson got nearly 3M as a FA a few years ago

You dont think a team like Nucks would jump at chance to have him as #3 C in 3M range? Or other contenders

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Garrison is easily going to get 3.5-4 million.

Pirri is not ready, but I hope I'm proven wrong.

Gaustad, big money? From who? How much you talking? He won't get more than 2.
Gaustad just went for a first plus. In a weak UFA market he'll garner Joel Ward money easy.

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Sharp - Toews - Kane
Saad/Jayes - Roy - Hossa
Bickell - Bolland - Shaw
Stalberg - Kruger - Mayers
Frolik, Bollig

Keith - Seabrook
Oduya - Leddy
Montador - Olsen
Lepisto/UFA filler

Miller
Emery

Trade Hammer, first, Morin, and Crawford for Miller and Roy.
I still don't think we're tough enough with that line-up. We're still going to be out-hit. Most teams will just play physical against the Hawks and it really shakes them up. See St. Louis. Vancouver.

I think signing Carkner and keeping Carcillo/signing Winnick would help a lot.

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If we fix the PP, this team has nothing to fear from physical teams.

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If we're gonna get a goalie, I'd rather just wait for Cory Schneider to be a UFA.

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If we're gonna get a goalie, I'd rather just wait for Cory Schneider to be a UFA.
So we wait until Schneider is in his 30's and on downside of his career?

He is RFA this summer ,, Expect him traded and signed longterm by team that acquries him

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Here is a radical idea (Should Wilson not be fired in SJ)

To Hawks
D Douglas Murray (2.5M x 1 yr)
G Antti Niemi (3.8M x 3 yrs)

To Sharks
D Niklas Hjalmarsson (3.5M x 2 yrs)
G Corey Crawford (2.66M x 2 yrs)

Sharks get young dman they wanted and were willing to give up a 1st/3rd for a few summers ago + a cheaper goalie signed for 1 yr less (Sharks have good goalie prospects in pipeline for longterm needs)

Hawks get bottom pairing dman who is showing some signs of decline + goalie who well won cup and is better then Crawford

Shakeup type deal for both teams
I love it, Hawks get a #1 goalie who we know can play and win here and finally get that big mean body moving D man we need.

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So we wait until Schneider is in his 30's and on downside of his career?

He is RFA this summer ,, Expect him traded and signed longterm by team that acquries him
Very true, if we are going to wait that long just draft a goalie in the first 2 rounds and hope one comes through, same time table for being on the Hawks but our drafted goalie would be 6-7 years younger.

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If we're gonna get a goalie, I'd rather just wait for Cory Schneider to be a UFA.
He'll get traded. Vancouver isn't going to trade with us. It'd have to be a three way trade. I like Schneider, but his puck handling skills leave something to be desired.

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Vancouver will trade him to the higgest bidder. If we give them an offer they can't refuse, they will accept it. As good as Schneider is/looks, he is still not proven and hasn't played in the NHL behind a streaky D / bad team

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