I appreciate these posts, I really do--especially since I have to hike out of the bush to the gas station on the main road to borrow their...terminal....to get on the internet. Most money? Best league? Why do you think its the most money??? Best league? Because it's just a hoot on a Sunday afternoon with the kids after church group?? Maybe it's because it's right after the international nerf basketball championships on thursday nights?
How did I know Krazy would chime in? He always does. It's not the body count bud, just the fact that there could be one. Pick any auto racing genre, or better yet, name one that hasn't had them--slot cars don't count. Get the picture yet?
DANGER sells tickets--even the ones you boys buy. Either of you have season tickets you paid hundreds and in most cases thousands for to international chess? Curling? Spelling bees? Ping Pong? Dare I say...major league baseball? Do you frequent those message boards? If you do, congrats, you're a renaissance man. I don't, and my cave doesn't have cable. I hike out, knuckles dragging the whole way, to catch a hockey game a few times a week. For the effort, I expect the best...and the product is currently at risk of becoming something not worth the time or energy, or in marketing parlance, the risk/reward equation is becoming lopsided.
Oops....gotta go, the horseman's here with news--hopefully of Branch's firing.
OH! Mr.Wilson, I didn't know you were in a cave somewhere in the bush. Me too!! Let me give you a piece of advise if I can...
When it's hunting season in your area don't go in prime territory wearing a brown fur coat. That would be dangerous. If fact that would be just as stupid as... hmm let' see.. I got it... that would be just as stupid as crossing a prime zone in hockey dressed with the puck keeping your head down..
so did Branch get fired? did he? did he? please say yes!
and by the way people, as a Owen Sound fan, I seen the Domi hit on TV last night in slow mo, and that was a clean hit too, I don't know what the fuss is about. You see Domi lining his shoulder for the hit, and not aiming the head.
Several years ago high sticking was a discretionary call. Eventually evolution kicked in and players were advised they had to have control of their sticks. Even accidental high sticks are now penalized. I believe we're at he same point with hits to the head and in that sense all contact to the head should be penalized. We know the damage brain injuries do to people down the road. It's time for accidental hits to the head to be penalized as well, as they are in the OHL.
Hey Kanuck,
I like the way you think and believe that is the way of the future, whether we agree or not. Serious injuries dont help any player, or their team, or any league, an if we can remove the serious types of malicious, and predatorial type hits/moves then the game will be much more safer and competitive.
I appreciate these posts, I really do--especially since I have to hike out of the bush to the gas station on the main road to borrow their...terminal....to get on the internet. Most money? Best league? Why do you think its the most money??? Best league? Because it's just a hoot on a Sunday afternoon with the kids after church group?? Maybe it's because it's right after the international nerf basketball championships on thursday nights?
How did I know Krazy would chime in? He always does. It's not the body count bud, just the fact that there could be one. Pick any auto racing genre, or better yet, name one that hasn't had them--slot cars don't count. Get the picture yet?
DANGER sells tickets--even the ones you boys buy. Either of you have season tickets you paid hundreds and in most cases thousands for to international chess? Curling? Spelling bees? Ping Pong? Dare I say...major league baseball? Do you frequent those message boards? If you do, congrats, you're a renaissance man. I don't, and my cave doesn't have cable. I hike out, knuckles dragging the whole way, to catch a hockey game a few times a week. For the effort, I expect the best...and the product is currently at risk of becoming something not worth the time or energy, or in marketing parlance, the risk/reward equation is becoming lopsided.
Oops....gotta go, the horseman's here with news--hopefully of Branch's firing.
I didnt think you were listening to my blogs. Well done. LOL
Any way, you said that you "expect the best", but how can you see the best if the stars are on the sidelines with serious injuries. To get the best, you need all stars playing, and not just the 3rd and 4th line bangers and hit men.
Any way, you said that you "expect the best", but how can you see the best if the stars are on the sidelines with serious injuries. To get the best, you need all stars playing, and not just the 3rd and 4th line bangers and hit men.
What and who is "best"? There's many dimensions to the game. Who ever can be affective in all dimensions of the game is "best" in my opinion... Halmo is not 3rd or 4rth line product, he's got 16 points more that Yakupov, and he stayed healthy all year while doing it. I think he was better than Yakupov this year by a long shot because he managed to stay healthy doing it. The only reason why he's sideline in reality is because he's too good. Let's say he was really effective.
If you want to take a dimension out of a sport, that's not the same sport anymore.
that's why you have the labels "European Hockey" and "North American Hockey". If you like European hockey better, then watch that one.
here is the definition of tradition...
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The passing down of elements of a culture from generation to generation, especially by oral communication.
A mode of thought or behavior followed by a people continuously from generation to generation; a custom or usage.
b. A set of such customs and usages viewed as a coherent body of precedents influencing the present: followed family tradition in dress and manners. See Synonyms at heritage.
A time-honored practice or set of such practices.
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so in my books, people that think like you along with Branch, may have us living in caves, but we think people like you are disrespecful to our tradition... so if you don't like it don't watch.
...and you got it upside down about the high sticks issue, way back then this was not a problem in the NHL, not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying it wasn't a problem, it evolved into a problem as the player's respect for one another devolved... it's to the point where they had to do something about it. Your not being disrespectful by hitting someone hard as long as it's clean... it's good old fashion hockey in a Canadian tradition... Canada's most proud tradition... and some of you want that gone I guess....
tell me, are you going have a problem when Canada is no longer the "best" as far as average on the international stage? Do you even recongnize why Canada is the best? Obviously not.
I know I'm showing my age but I remember "The Broad Street Bullies" back in the 70s when the Russians came over to play a few NHL teams. The Flyers played sock'em hockey and the Russians wanted to quit the game because the Flyers were to physical. There were all kinds of new Flyers fan born in Canada that day because of it. You didn't mess with good old hockey the way it was ment to be played. It was too embarrasing to leave so they ended up finishing the game, and the Flyers even settled down a bit to accomidate their whinning.
my point: your version of sucky whinny baby hockey is the only thing that's gonna come out of your logic. Keep it clean, respect the other players, AND KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, and you'll have the best sport ever... and I don't mean the Russian version mentioned above that your cheering so much for.
tell me, are you going have a problem when Canada is no longer the "best" as far as average on the international stage? Do you even recongnize why Canada is the best? Obviously not.
I know I'm showing my age but I remember "The Broad Street Bullies" back in the 70s when the Russians came over to play a few NHL teams. The Flyers played sock'em hockey and the Russians wanted to quit the game because the Flyers were to physical. There were all kinds of new Flyers fan born in Canada that day because of it. You didn't mess with good old hockey the way it was ment to be played. It was too embarrasing to leave so they ended up finishing the game, and the Flyers even settled down a bit to accomidate their whinning.
my point: your version of sucky whinny baby hockey is the only thing that's gonna come out of your logic. Keep it clean, respect the other players, AND KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, and you'll have the best sport ever... and I don't mean the Russian version mentioned above that your cheering so much for.
Canada is already ranked 4th in the international hockey standings so no they currently aren't the best. Maybe Canada has to look closer at what they have to do to get back up to that spot.
Canada is already ranked 4th in the international hockey standings so no they currently aren't the best. Maybe Canada has to look closer at what they have to do to get back up to that spot.
I said "as far as average on the international stage" your comparing recent stats, I'm talking over a period of time since international hockey was promoted alot more.
and if Canada go European style, others will have that advantage on them and they'll probably stay 4rth on the average.
I said "as far as average on the international stage" your comparing recent stats, I'm talking over a period of time since international hockey was promoted alot more.
and if Canada go European style, others will have that advantage on them and they'll probably stay 4rth on the average.
Well Canada has only been 1st once since 2006. They were 1st from 2003-2005. Canada is ranked the lowest they have ever been ranked. I am not sure if it's just a one year thing but they haven't been the best hockey nation over the past 5-6 years.
Well Canada has only been 1st once since 2006. They were 1st from 2003-2005. Canada is ranked the lowest they have ever been ranked. I am not sure if it's just a one year thing but they haven't been the best hockey nation over the past 5-6 years.
Hey Razor, I couldnt agree with you more. Canada's skill level has been a growing concern, for over 10 years now. Yes we provide the more complete players, but sometimes we lose out because of our lack of high end skill compared to other countries.
Times are changing, and body checks and rough play will not win championships in international play. Just look at the World Juniors now for the last 2 years. We can bang with the best of them, but when it comes down to finishing strong, our players are all burnt out, or injured or tired.
More effort should be given to developing skill and speed and playmaking.
Alot of posters will disagree, but unfortunately it is reality.
here's some Canada stats for ya... Sweden is pretty good too...
It would be nice to know the truth as of why Canada as been slipping lately? I'mm not being sarcastic, I would really like to know, I don't think it's because of their skill level, I'm thinking more of political reasons. But what is the truth?
Canada is already ranked 4th in the international hockey standings so no they currently aren't the best. Maybe Canada has to look closer at what they have to do to get back up to that spot.
Where do you find these International Standings? How do they compile standings? They don't play against each other. Canada had a bunch of kids who didn't play at World Jrs. because they are in the NHL ,so that is not a fair comparison either.
here's some Canada stats for ya... Sweden is pretty good too...
It would be nice to know the truth as of why Canada as been slipping lately? I'mm not being sarcastic, I would really like to know, I don't think it's because of their skill level, I'm thinking more of political reasons. But what is the truth?
For the World Juniors, if I were to wager a guess, it's that a lot of young European players stay in Europe through their junior-eligible ages, while we see a lot of 18 and 19 year old North American players in the NHL and not available to the WJC's. The World Championships are not a big focus to North American players either (not to mention that some of the best are still playing for their NHL teams).
For the World Juniors, if I were to wager a guess, it's that a lot of young European players stay in Europe through their junior-eligible ages, while we see a lot of 18 and 19 year old North American players in the NHL and not available to the WJC's. The World Championships are not a big focus to North American players either (not to mention that some of the best are still playing for their NHL teams).
that would be a pretty good bet, as I'm sure it's at least a factor. Would I be correct to assume that some of those teams also play together all year?
Where do you find these International Standings? How do they compile standings? They don't play against each other. Canada had a bunch of kids who didn't play at World Jrs. because they are in the NHL ,so that is not a fair comparison either.
The world junior hockey championships are not used in these calculations. It does not say why not but it could be because the World Juniors are technically played by amateurs.
Ok Thanks Rayzor, I see where they get the standings from now, They use the World Championship results. So I take this with a grain of salt as Canada and many countries only send players that are out of the NHL playoffs to these tournaments.
Doesn't matter as I don't think the hit and suspension of Halmo will have any International implications,as I think Hockey Canada is doing a fine job.
I don't think the hit and suspension of Halmo will have any International implications
They interviewed the coach on the hit
It's not just about Halmo being gone, it's a lot of people inside hockey know Halmo didn't break any rules. He shouldn't have even a 2 minute penalty if you ask me. The officiating concerning this team as been terrible, in one game they ruled a goal when the puck wasn't even in the net, and a goal was assigned to the opposing team. You should've seen the commentators freaking out. They played the replay countless times scratching their heads in disbelief.
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Game 1 of the Rangers/Attack series tonight and Artur Gavrus was taken out by what appears to be a head shot by Tyler Randell.(sorry no video yet)
There was no call on the play but the replay looked pretty conclusive.
Interesting how the OHL spins this one.
Game 1 of the Rangers/Attack series tonight and Artur Gavrus was taken out by what appears to be a head shot by Tyler Randell.(sorry no video yet)
There was no call on the play but the replay looked pretty conclusive.
Interesting how the OHL spins this one.
I was watching the game and saw the review multiple times, in my mind it was deliberate. The Domi hit was clean, and this one is not. Seems like he purposely aligned his shoulder for the head. Still a better trade off for Kitchener as Owen Sound looses yet another good player... ouch
Game 1 of the Rangers/Attack series tonight and Artur Gavrus was taken out by what appears to be a head shot by Tyler Randell.(sorry no video yet)
There was no call on the play but the replay looked pretty conclusive.
Interesting how the OHL spins this one.
They've suspended Randell indefinitely as of now. What sort of spin were you looking for?
I expect Randell will get a few games, but I don't believe it was a targeted move by Randell - he didn't even know Gavrus was down. Doesn't excuse the hit by any means though.
How about the league phones the Rangers and says there is no problem with the hit and he can play tonight and then on Monday the inform the Rangers that they have changed there minds and now he is suspended indefinetely or until we complete are review next Friday.
Any way, you said that you "expect the best", but how can you see the best if the stars are on the sidelines with serious injuries. To get the best, you need all stars playing, and not just the 3rd and 4th line bangers and hit men.
I suppose some liked to watch Francois Leroux play. Me, I prefered Pat LaFontaine. To each their own I guess...
