Prince was my favourite prospect in last years draft. I had him in the 1st round of my mock. The biggest questions surrounding Prince were his skating (which has never been bad) and whether or not he was leaching off of Toffoli and Martindale.
This season he shut those people up with questions.
I think that is hopeful thinking on your part. In THNs Future Watch, Prince is #10 for Ottawa, behind Wiercioch. That tells me that there is something that people question. I simply do not have any clue, because like you guys, Prince seems like he should be a top prospect.
I truly hope he is as good as we think he can be but I have doubts.
I think that is hopeful thinking on your part. In THNs Future Watch, Prince is #10 for Ottawa, behind Wiercioch. That tells me that there is something that people question. I simply do not have any clue, because like you guys, Prince seems like he should be a top prospect.
I truly hope he is as good as we think he can be but I have doubts.
The hockey news' future watch article was written by Bruce Garioch. He knows nothing of these players he's paid to write about. Even if Prince is ranked #10 in Ottawa's prospect pool, that only speaks to the system's depth. Prince has answered the questions about him at the junior level. We'll wait and see how he transitions to the AHL but my money is on him becoming an NHL player. He's too smart, too fast, too skilled to not make it.
I think that is hopeful thinking on your part. In THNs Future Watch, Prince is #10 for Ottawa, behind Wiercioch. That tells me that there is something that people question. I simply do not have any clue, because like you guys, Prince seems like he should be a top prospect.
I truly hope he is as good as we think he can be but I have doubts.
I've honestly never been so sure about a prospect. He reminds me very much so of Joe Pavelski who was a very underrated prospect in his own right. They are both elusive underrated skaters who tend to beat Dmen often because they underestimate their skating. They don't look fast but when you think they're not is when you get burned. They're both also very strong 2 way players. Prince's d game isn't flashy but it's very effective. I forced myself to watch his all around game ALOT this year and came away very pleased. They both also are primarily playmakers who have phenomenal hockey sense but also have underrated goal scoring ability.
Little Joe plays Centre and Prince primarily a winger but the way they play the game is similar. Prince played Centre in the past and sometimes lines up to take the draw but still I see lots of similarities.
I think that is hopeful thinking on your part. In THNs Future Watch, Prince is #10 for Ottawa, behind Wiercioch. That tells me that there is something that people question. I simply do not have any clue, because like you guys, Prince seems like he should be a top prospect.
I truly hope he is as good as we think he can be but I have doubts.
I find Prince actually plays a lot like Alfredsson, the way he can make the offense run through him from the wing and be such a threat in all zones. He's got a lot of patience with the puck and has the skill to hold onto it for an extra second to make a play.
I'd say his upside is that of a Ray Whitney or Cory Stillman. Those are high expectations but he's got the talent.
And he's not even that small. When he fills out he'll have a similar physique to Crosby.
Crosby's physique may be a little optimistic, or at least comparing the two can be a little misleading. But when it's all said and done I can't see size being an issue for Prince.
His linemate Mike Cazzola is the poster boy for the issues some place on Prince. And the discrepancy in size, skill, skating, etc between those players is very obvious.
I think Prince could surprise a lot of people as long as they take their time and let him fill out. He plays and skates really well with the puck in tight spaces and he's great at buying time with the puck and then using his vision to distribute it. He's got a nice wrister too.
I think he's a surer thing than Puempel actually...and although a lot of people have gotten down on Puempel, I for one am saying this in credit of Prince's prospects than a slight to Puempel's.
Crosby's physique may be a little optimistic, or at least comparing the two can be a little misleading. But when it's all said and done I can't see size being an issue for Prince.
His linemate Mike Cazzola is the poster boy for the issues some place on Prince. And the discrepancy in size, skill, skating, etc between those players is very obvious.
I think Prince could surprise a lot of people as long as they take their time and let him fill out. He plays and skates really well with the puck in tight spaces and he's great at buying time with the puck and then using his vision to distribute it. He's got a nice wrister too.
I think he's a surer thing than Puempel actually...and although a lot of people have gotten down on Puempel, I for one am saying this in credit of Prince's prospects than a slight to Puempel's.
Good points. I say Crosby because I figure Prince will be about 5'11, 200lbs when all is said and done which is similar to Crosby. Hard to say if Shane will manage that kind of lower body strength but he's already a guy with a nice low center of gravity that he uses well ala Crosby.
Good points. I say Crosby because I figure Prince will be about 5'11, 200lbs when all is said and done which is similar to Crosby. Hard to say if Shane will manage that kind of lower body strength but he's already a guy with a nice low center of gravity that he uses well ala Crosby.
Prince is gonna be ****ing good player if he can get to 5'11 200 without forcing that weight on himself, which could slow him down.
I'm surprised to see he's listed at 190 right now, I wouldn't be surprised if that's exaggerated by 10 pounds at the least. But either way 5'11 180 is just fine for a guy that skates like him...assuming I'm right, and who knows.
I find as soon as a guy is under 6 foot...scouts have a huge opportunity to find players who are almost obviously going to be good NHLers but fall to lower spots in the draft because several teams are managed by aragorn like thinkers.
Kids who are 5'11 and 180+ at 18-19 aren't exactly small. They just don't have the size potential of guys that are 6'3 180 at the same age. If those shorter kids have high end feet, head and hands....you could be looking at a steal. Prince has those...it's very obvious.
Prince is just so good at so many different aspects not to be an NHLer. I haven't been so sure of pro potential on the 67s since Couture/McGinn. Couture obviously had/has the higher end potential but anyone who watched McGinn knew he'd be a good NHLer too. Prince imo should fit between these 2 guys when it comes to NHL potential based on my assessments on all of them.
How long will the Whalers be without Stefan Noesen and how much will they miss him? The Ottawa Senators first-rounder, who has 14 playoff points, missed the game and was espied wearing a soft cast on his left hand. It's a big loss for the Whalers, but between Anaheim Ducks first-rounder Rickard Rakell and veterans Andy Bathgate and Mitchell Heard, they're not exactly lacking in centres. So it is possible to replace some of Noesen's offence by committee. At the same time, in a series where scoring appears to be at a premium, Noesen offers a combination of skill and smarts that cannot be replaced easily.
HD SopCast link. For those of you that don't have Swedish TV.
sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/128582
Download SopCast here. If you have VLC installed, just click the button with the overlaping windows to open the stream in VLC. It makes it more accessible.
Järnkrok is reportedly out with illness. The rest of the team looks like it did in the semi finals. Emil Molin(1993)or Elias Lindholm(1994) is probably centering Silfverberg tonight. Järnkrok is a tough loss. Makes me think we'll loose it.
EDIT: The broadcast starts 19:00 here in Sweden. I don't know what that is in Canada time. But it's in 45 minutes .
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Zibby was practising with Spezza and Milo at practise wearing Top6 jeresy
Garrioch is reporting on his twitter that the Sens are toying with the idea of playing him. I guess when you are that big an underdog (as per media) what can you lose?? (except a year off of ELC).
Garrioch is reporting on his twitter that the Sens are toying with the idea of playing him. I guess when you are that big an underdog (as per media) what can you lose?? (except a year off of ELC).
You gotta tell yourself that he's probably the best option that we have to play between Spezza and Michalek. Greening has been ruining a lot of scoring chances the last few games.
You gotta tell yourself that he's probably the best option that we have to play between Spezza and Michalek. Greening has been ruining a lot of scoring chances the last few games.
The only concern I have is that Greening is a HUGE body and won't think twice about getting dirty in front or the corners, which is much more intense in the playoffs. I'm not sure Ziba will be doing that or as willing once he gets that first taste of playoff intensity.
The only concern I have is that Greening is a HUGE body and won't think twice about getting dirty in front or the corners, which is much more intense in the playoffs. I'm not sure Ziba will be doing that or as willing once he gets that first taste of playoff intensity.
He's shown he can and will do that in the first 9 games he played this year. Zibanejad isn't small either.
You gotta tell yourself that he's probably the best option that we have to play between Spezza and Michalek.
I really, really don't, because he scored 5 goals in 26 games. Sure maybe he'll be a good player eventually, maybe even a top line forward. But I don't think that playing him there for the playoffs is a good idea at all.
Hopefully it doesn't stick and they're just giving him some practice time to remind him what playing with NHL players is like.
He's shown he can and will do that in the first 9 games he played this year. Zibanejad isn't small either.
I agree he showed he can play in dirty areas, but the first 9 games of the season do not equal playoffs. Also, he is a big kid, but not Greening big. There's a reason Greening is nicknamed Cyborg by his teamates. Anyways, I'm all for MZ playing, but lets hope he can handle it.
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