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11-05-2004, 07:26 PM
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NYR/DAL Proposal

Blackburnn, Toamas Pok, 2nd Rouner
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eri Letinen

I thik that should clearr the NYR net and give them a good defensive forward
w/e proposal may suck but i realy dont car as i am drunlk!!!!

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11-05-2004, 07:29 PM
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Hey Everybody,

In case ya'll are wondering.

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11-05-2004, 07:31 PM
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Blackburnn, Toamas Pok, 2nd Rouner
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eri Letinen

I thik that should clearr the NYR net and give them a good defensive forward
w/e proposal may suck but i realy dont car as i am drunlk!!!!
I have never heard of Eri Letinen.

I have heard of Jere Lehtinen.

On the other hand, you said that you are drunk so it doesn't matter then.

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Hey Everybody,

In case ya'll are wondering.
Explains some of his other posts as well

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Blackburnn, Toamas Pok, 2nd Rouner
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eri Letinen

I thik that should clearr the NYR net and give them a good defensive forward
w/e proposal may suck but i realy dont car as i am drunlk!!!!
Why would we trade prospects and picks, while were where rebuilding?

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Why would we trade prospects and picks, while were where rebuilding?

I'm not so sure this thread merits any consideration, no need to take it seriously.

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11-05-2004, 08:36 PM
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Blackburnn, Toamas Pok, 2nd Rouner
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I thik that should clearr the NYR net and give them a good defensive forward
w/e proposal may suck but i realy dont car as i am drunlk!!!!
In a word.......no. We have no use for an injured goalie, especially for the best defensive forward in the league. But hey, your drunk, so we'll let this one slide

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How about:

To DAL: Poti, Lundmark

To NYR: N.Kapanen, Svoboda, J.Lundqvist


I know Dallas would prefer Rachunek, and a deal could be done for him, but the return package would have to be re-evaluated.

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11-05-2004, 11:16 PM
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How about:

To DAL: Poti, Lundmark

To NYR: N.Kapanen, Svoboda, J.Lundqvist


I know Dallas would prefer Rachunek, and a deal could be done for him, but the return package would have to be re-evaluated.
In all honesty, I'd want absolutely no part of Poti. Wouldn't really be for trading Kapanen, as his value is really down right now, but we also have Hagos over in Sweden who could probably take his spot. And its quite obvious why you would want Lundqvist . Switch Rachunek in there for Poti and you could probably have the basis of a deal.

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11-06-2004, 12:17 AM
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Blackburnn, Toamas Pok, 2nd Rouner
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I thik that should clearr the NYR net and give them a good defensive forward
w/e proposal may suck but i realy dont car as i am drunlk!!!!
What the hell are you thinking man? absolutley horrible deal. Good excuse no one cares you are drunk,you are probably sober just making excuses for that dumb proposal.

WOW u drank alcohol, you rebel...................

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especially for the best defensive forward in the league.
No Dallas dont have the best defensive FWD in the league, colorado does and thats FORSBERG, so take a chill pill

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How about:

To DAL: Poti, Lundmark

To NYR: N.Kapanen, Svoboda, J.Lundqvist


I know Dallas would prefer Rachunek, and a deal could be done for him, but the return package would have to be re-evaluated.
Id love to get Erksine in a deal if possible. He is a big mean dman that can play in the NHL, he needs his minutes. I also like Spiller from the Yotes.

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In all honesty, I'd want absolutely no part of Poti.
I think I actually agree with you for the first time in my life.

Poti's junk. The Oil got away with highway robbery in that deal.

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No Dallas dont have the best defensive FWD in the league, colorado does and thats FORSBERG, so take a chill pill
So true.. And that's why Peter Forsberg has *zero* Selke's to show for it, never plays PK and never ever gets send out on the the ice to shutdown the opposition's top units. Peter Forsberg's defensive game is actually average at best, if not slightly below it.

Jere Lehtinen has been nominted 8 times, won the Selke thrice, tying Bob Gainey. There's a strong possibility that Jere Lehtinen may go down as the best defensive forward ever, baring injuries.

As for sjb3599's proposal, hoe bout this one:

To Dallas
Karel Rachunek and Jamie Lundmark

To New York
Niko Kapanen, Joel Lundqvist and John Erskine

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What the hell are you thinking man? absolutley horrible deal. Good excuse no one cares you are drunk,you are probably sober just making excuses for that dumb proposal.

WOW u drank alcohol, you rebel...................
If he was really drunk enough to think this deal.. how did he turn the computer on?

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No Dallas dont have the best defensive FWD in the league, colorado does and thats FORSBERG, so take a chill pill

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No Dallas dont have the best defensive FWD in the league, colorado does and thats FORSBERG, so take a chill pill
I would consider Fedorov a defensive FWD, before Forsberg.

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I think I actually agree with you for the first time in my life.

Poti's junk. The Oil got away with highway robbery in that deal.
Man, do I hate having to defend Tom Poti every week.

Two years ago Tom Poti finished 7th in league scoring among defensemen. He did it on a horrible non-playoff team. The 'defensively inept' Poti finished with a nearly even rating despite playing 25 minutes a night on one of the worst defensive teams in hockey.

Last year, his scoring dropped off. Of course, Brian Leetch and the horrificly overrated Alex Kovalev had taken away all of his PP time (but he still scored 10 goals and 4 GW goals) which has a lot to do with the precipitous drop in his assist totals.

Rachunek? Rachunek has played his entire NHL career for the defensively reliable and intelligently coached Ottawa Senators. Most of his career has been played with defensive stalwarts like Wade Redden, Chris Philips, and Zdeno Chara doing most of the heavy lifting on defense. He's never scored more than 4 goals in an NHL season, has a history of nagging injuries that cost him playing time, and looked dreadful when he showed up in NY at the end of last year.

Basically Rachunek is a few years younger and cheaper than Poti. But he isn't nearly as productive, he's got durability questions, and his bloated +/- numbers have to be looked at carefully because he spent his entire career playing behind a defensively responsible team.

Might Dallas prefer the younger player? Sure. But I see no reason to believe that Poti isn't the better one as of this date.

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I would consider Fedorov a defensive FWD, before Forsberg.

of course, thats because fedorov can play defense. Hell, he even suited up as a frickin' defenseman.

only thing forsberg defends is his ego.

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wow did I actually think up this deal.......

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Man, do I hate having to defend Tom Poti every week.

Two years ago Tom Poti finished 7th in league scoring among defensemen. He did it on a horrible non-playoff team. The 'defensively inept' Poti finished with a nearly even rating despite playing 25 minutes a night on one of the worst defensive teams in hockey.

Last year, his scoring dropped off. Of course, Brian Leetch and the horrificly overrated Alex Kovalev had taken away all of his PP time (but he still scored 10 goals and 4 GW goals) which has a lot to do with the precipitous drop in his assist totals.

Rachunek? Rachunek has played his entire NHL career for the defensively reliable and intelligently coached Ottawa Senators. Most of his career has been played with defensive stalwarts like Wade Redden, Chris Philips, and Zdeno Chara doing most of the heavy lifting on defense. He's never scored more than 4 goals in an NHL season, has a history of nagging injuries that cost him playing time, and looked dreadful when he showed up in NY at the end of last year.

Basically Rachunek is a few years younger and cheaper than Poti. But he isn't nearly as productive, he's got durability questions, and his bloated +/- numbers have to be looked at carefully because he spent his entire career playing behind a defensively responsible team.

Might Dallas prefer the younger player? Sure. But I see no reason to believe that Poti isn't the better one as of this date.

maybe someone who follows the rangers closely can pipe in,but I've read Sather's shopped Poti several times and found a weak market for him.

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No Dallas dont have the best defensive FWD in the league, colorado does and thats FORSBERG, so take a chill pill
if he takes that chill pill will you stop taking whatever pills you are...

forsberg is great, but ... come on

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I think I actually agree with you for the first time in my life.

Poti's junk. The Oil got away with highway robbery in that deal.
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maybe someone who follows the rangers closely can pipe in,but I've read Sather's shopped Poti several times and found a weak market for him.
No doubt. Poti has his wart's, particularly in the consistency department, and the Rangers are in full-on-rebuilding mode. Sather shopped everyone and everything over 25 last season, so it's hardly surprising that he looked into Poti's trade value. And given Poti's offensive drop off, it's hardly surprising that the market for him was 'soft'.

Basically I think Poti is a later day Alex Kovalev. All the talent in the world, but a tendency towards mental errors and incosistent play. A classic coach killer who'll tantalize with his upside but usually dissapoint in some respect with his delivery.

But at some point in his career, he'll land in the right situation at the right time, and he'll put up some huge numbers. Given the Rangers current defensive make-up, I see little reason not to believe now is that time. And if Poti drops a 60+ point season when the lockout resumes, plays 30 minutes a night, and keeps his +/- vaguely close to even? Well the market isn't going to be soft for him anymore, and Sather can move him for serious value.

I'm merely reacting to the near daily posts suggesting that the Rangers best option is to trade the only player under 32 on the team who's been in an All-Star game for a package of athletic tape and some beer money.

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