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03-11-2012, 09:08 PM
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Clinched!

With the win tonight, the Blues are mathematically the first team to clinch a playoff spot!

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03-11-2012, 09:20 PM
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Wake me up when the Blues clinch the Central.

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03-11-2012, 09:23 PM
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Not that a playoff spot has been in doubt for months but I don't get this post. First off, it's factually untrue that they've mthematically clinched. Secondly, 97 won't be the cutoff line for playoffs. The 8-seed is on pace for 92 and the 9-seed is on pace for 89 and that's been true for months also.

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03-11-2012, 09:24 PM
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I was about to post the same thing.

Another interesting thing this site says is that we have an 84.141% chance of winning the Central and a 71.446% chance of winning the Conference. Meaningless, but nice to see!

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Not that a playoff spot has been in doubt for months but I don't get this post. First off, it's factually untrue that they've mthematically clinched. Secondly, 97 won't be the cutoff line for playoffs. The 8-seed is on pace for 92 and the 9-seed is on pace for 89 and that's been true for months also.
When you take into account all the meetings between the playoff bubble teams, they all can't catch us. We have mathematically clinched.

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03-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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Mathematically, he's correct.

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03-11-2012, 10:03 PM
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Mathematically, he's correct.
Mathematically he is incorrect, 9th place Colorado can reach 100 points still (12 games left *2=24 possible points, adding to their current points of 76). Blues currently have 97 points, meaning that they have not eliminated the possibility of being in 9th place. If Kings win tonight, that number becomes 102 points to clinch a playoff spot.

EDIT: San Jose still can make 105 points, forgot about their games in hand, although they would win their division then so it is kind of irrelevant.


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03-11-2012, 10:04 PM
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Its just a matter of semantics. Have the games occurred yet to put the Blues into a spot, mathematically? No. But they're scheduled.

Some sites will only take into account games that have been played and suggest that the Blues have a few points to go (magic number of 6).

Either way, no reason for Blues fans to flame each other.

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Mathematically he is incorrect, 9th place Colorado can reach 100 points still (12 games left *2=24 possible points, adding to their current points of 76). Blues currently have 97 points, meaning that they have not eliminated the possibility of being in 9th place. If Kings win tonight, that number becomes 102 points to clinch a playoff spot.
Lol sorry I didn't make that clear. I was responding the saying PocketNines was wrong

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http://zorak.best.vwh.net/nhl/

Here you can see the magic number for the Blues vs every team in the conference.

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8th/9th place in the west has 76 points with 13/12 games remaining.. hmm lets do some "math" shall we? So if the Avs and flames some how go 12/13-0 and the Blues go 0-for that would give those two teams 102/100 points and the blues remaining at 97 points... Correct me if I am wrong but I think 100 points is more then 97..... Now of course that would mean each of the other teams above the 9th place would have to hit the 98 point mark to oust the Blues but it is "mathematically" possible for them to not make the playoffs.... Not a chance in hell this happens but it is still yet possible.... If I am missing something please bring some actual fact here and please prove my non math brain incorrect instead of just suggesting we do google searches.

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Its just a matter of semantics. Have the games occurred yet to put the Blues into a spot, mathematically? No. But they're scheduled.

Some sites will only take into account games that have been played and suggest that the Blues have a few points to go (magic number of 6).

Either way, no reason for Blues fans to flame each other.
True but people also do not need to suggest people do " internet research" and claim something to be correct when it is easily proved wrong just sayin
Go Blues! I want home ice advantage!

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So I wonder where the

post from the OP went?

Did he delete it himself because he managed to figure out I know what I'm talking about?
Admin deleted it, I assume from what 2MM said, because it wasn't a very good post, so probably better you edit yours to remove it.

However, the statement about the Blues clinching their playoff place with the win tonight is true. When you take into account the schedules of all the remaining teams, it is not possible for 8 teams to finish above us.

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Admin deleted it, I assume from what 2MM said, because it wasn't a very good post, so probably better you edit yours to remove it.

However, the statement about the Blues clinching their playoff place with the win tonight is true. When you take into account the schedules of all the remaining teams, it is not possible for 8 teams to finish above us.
It is in no way practically possible but I assure you it is "mathematically possible." But honestly who gives to sh#$s We are playoff bound and I for one am very excited!

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03-11-2012, 10:19 PM
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It is not incorrect. Look at the schedule. It is complicated math, but when San Jose plays Anaheim, it is not possible for BOTH teams to get 2 points. When you do the in-depth analysis of all possible outcomes over the next 14 games (all 35,000,000 possibilities) you see that under every possible outcome the Blues are in the playoffs.

Therefore, mathematically the Blues have clinched tonight. Can't be proven by just looking at the standings, but if you do the research you will see that it is factual.

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If the Blues lost every game in regulation they'd be on 97. So if you can get eight teams to 98 then they haven't clinched.

Let's do it with VAN, DET, NSH, CHI, DAL, SJ, PHX, CGY and let's even do it without a single loser point.

– SJ (75) wins every game except CGY: 103 points.
– Calgary (76) wins every game except PHX & one of the two DAL games: 11 wins, 22 points, 98.
– Phoenix (78) needs 10 wins. Here's 11: NSH, VAN, CGY, EDM, DAL, COL, STL, ANA, CBJ, STL, MIN.
– Dallas (81) beats MIN, WPG, CHI, VAN, EDM, VAN, STL, NSH, CGY once for 99 points.
– Chicago (81) beats LA, WSH, STL, DET, MIN, MIN, CBJ, VAN, NJ for 99 points.
– Nashville (87) beats COL, MIN, WPG, PIT, EDM, ANA for 99 points
– Detroit (91) beats STL, ANA, NJ, FLA for 99 points.
– Vancouver (92) beats EDM, ANA, CBJ for 98 points.


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don't think i've seen a thread cause so much controversy this fast

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It is not incorrect. Look at the schedule. It is complicated math, but when San Jose plays Anaheim, it is not possible for BOTH teams to get 2 points. When you do the in-depth analysis of all possible outcomes over the next 14 games (all 35,000,000 possibilities) you see that under every possible outcome the Blues are in the playoffs.

Therefore, mathematically the Blues have clinched tonight. Can't be proven by just looking at the standings, but if you do the research you will see that it is factual.
Here's some internet research you could do.

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don't think i've seen a thread cause so much controversy this fast
What controversy? It's cut and dried.

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If the Blues lost every game in regulation they'd be on 97. So if you can get eight teams to 98 then they haven't clinched.

Let's do it with VAN, DET, NSH, CHI, DAL, SJ, PHX, CGY and let's even do it without a single loser point.

– SJ (75) wins every game except CGY: 103 points.
– Calgary (76) wins every game except PHX & one of the two DAL games: 11 wins, 22 points, 98.
– Phoenix (78) needs 10 wins. Here's 11: NSH, VAN, CGY, EDM, DAL, COL, STL, ANA, CBJ, STL, MIN.
– Dallas (81) beats MIN, WPG, CHI, VAN, EDM, VAN, STL, NSH, CGY once for 99 points.
– Chicago (81) beats LA, WSH, STL, DET, MIN, MIN, CBJ, VAN, NJ for 99 points.
– Nashville (87) beats COL, MIN, WPG, PIT, EDM, ANA for 99 points
– Detroit (91) beats STL, ANA, NJ, FLA for 99 points.
– Vancouver (92) beats EDM, ANA, CBJ for 98 points.

Obvious apology for trolling is obvious.
I'm surprised that the SportsClubStats site is wrong about that considering it is normally reliable. It would generally show 99.99...% until it is mathematically impossible, then it switches to Yes. But fair play, you are completely right.

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If you scroll your mouse over the 100% chance the blues make the playoffs you'll see it's rounded from 99.999999%. So not quite yet. Detroit for instance is at 99.997%. That would be the probabilities that either team loses every game in regulation and all other teams win the perfect amount to get in.

Edit: which is why it doesn't say 'yes' yet. For example Columbus is out mathematically and it says 'no'.

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There is only 1 possible outcome out of a total 152,800,000 possibilities that results in us missing the playoffs. Which, apparently, PocketNines exemplified.

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There is only 1 possible outcome out of a total 152,800,000 possibilities that results in us missing the playoffs. Which, apparently, PocketNines exemplified.
Ha – that was just an easy one. I can get LA in there too. I didn't even use 3-point games or really even work very hard. It took me literally two minutes to compile that list and zero "internet research."

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The snarky comments need to stop!

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Ha – that was just an easy one. I can get LA in there too. I didn't even use 3-point games or really even work very hard. It took me literally two minutes to compile that list and zero "internet research."
Well unless sportclubstats is wrong, that's it. I don't see an error in their math, but you can't see every outcome individually. I'm not going to hold it to you to find another one. We'll likely clinch on Tuesday.

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