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03-12-2012, 10:10 AM
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Pay to move up to draft a Russian?

Not in my lifetime.

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03-12-2012, 10:21 AM
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Dangle 2nd overall pick to CBJ for Nash.

This will be enticing to CBJ in that they have the chance to draft 1st and 2nd, picking up either 2 Russians that could form a dynamic first line, or they can pick a franchise forward and a franchise defensemen.

Imagine how good our forward lines could be with the addition of Nash.

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I wouldn't trade up down left or right. Get the BPA where ever they are.

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I'd probably give my soiled underwear to move up, that's about it.

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2nd overall from the last decade:
Landeskog
Seguin
Hedman
Doughty
JVR
Staal
Ryan
Malkin
Staal
Lehtonen
Spezza

Quite happy with where we are. No need to move around in the draft

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03-12-2012, 10:56 AM
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If you have the opportunity to draft Yakupov, I say you dangle him to a team like the Capitals where he'd be a good fit. Try to trade for John Carlson, Brooks Laich and the highest 1st rd. pick of Washington or if you don't want Brooks Laich, try getting Washington's 2 1st Rd. picks in 2012.

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03-12-2012, 10:58 AM
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Dangle 2nd overall pick to CBJ for Nash.

This will be enticing to CBJ in that they have the chance to draft 1st and 2nd, picking up either 2 Russians that could form a dynamic first line, or they can pick a franchise forward and a franchise defensemen.

Imagine how good our forward lines could be with the addition of Nash.
If there's anyone we should be dangling our 2nd overall to, it would be Nashville for Shea Weber. We don't need 7 years of Nash at $7.8M.

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Let's say EDM ends up with the 2nd or 3rd overall pick after the lottery, and CLB is willing to trade down (probably unlikely, but hear me out).

What would you be willing to part with to move up to #1, if anything, were you EDM's GM?

For whatever it is worth, the last trade involving the #1 pick was in 2003:

to PIT: 1 and 73
to FLA: 3, 55, and Samuelsson
Nothing. Yakupov just had his grey matter scrambled this weekend, so it might create some concern about him long term. If we win the lottery, I think we'd be better off seeing what's available to drop 1 to 3 spots.

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03-12-2012, 11:37 AM
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Why would we want to move from #2 to #1 this year? I see no generational talent like Crosby sitting there.

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Dangle 2nd overall pick to CBJ for Nash.

This will be enticing to CBJ in that they have the chance to draft 1st and 2nd, picking up either 2 Russians that could form a dynamic first line, or they can pick a franchise forward and a franchise defensemen.

Imagine how good our forward lines could be with the addition of Nash.
Nash is overrated and on this roster, he shouldn't be the highest paid player period. He's overpaid by at least 2m IMO

and I don't think the Oilers should trade up. No point giving up assets for a foward IMO

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03-12-2012, 01:33 PM
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Nash is overrated and on this roster, he shouldn't be the highest paid player period. He's overpaid by at least 2m IMO

and I don't think the Oilers should trade up. No point giving up assets for a foward IMO
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03-12-2012, 03:11 PM
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2nd overall from the last decade:
Landeskog
Seguin
Hedman
Doughty
JVR
Staal
Ryan
Malkin
Staal
Lehtonen
Spezza

Quite happy with where we are. No need to move around in the draft
^^ i think this just about says it all

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03-12-2012, 03:49 PM
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Why would Columbus want to trade their 1st to us? This is the beginning of their Scorched Earth Rebuild. What you need to trade is something that would turn that franchise around immediately, for the next few years. They have nothing in the system, they will be trading away their captain/face of the franchise this summer, and they are somehow icing a roster worse than ours.

The Oilers have absolutely nothing outside of the kids, that can turn that franchise around.
I think that Columbus with there history of drafting Russians could very well be listening to offers to get multiple (as in 2-3) picks in the top 10

I think the cleaning house has not finished yet and Nash will be in play for sure as everyone knows.

I think a crazy offer would be a team like Anaheim going for a guy like Rick Nash; currently at 6th overall. They seem to be a boom and bust team since they won the cup. There actually very good right now with guys that would be attractive to Columbus.

I use them as a trading partner for three reasons:

1)They have assets CBJ would want (young top prospects, high draft pick, and ability to offer NHL ready players);
2)There not a bad team, and do need some infusion of guys ready for prime time. They seem to be at a point with old vets, Vishnovsky, Lydman, Blake, Selanne, and then guys in there prime Perry, Getzlaf, Ryan, and young guys but that balance has to change soon.
3) Anaheim is able to offer the 3-4 for 1 player kind of deals that can entice CBJ.

Here is my offer - tell me what you think? overpayment, under payment, realistic, unrealistic. I can take the scrutiny...haha



Rick Nash
CBJ's 2012 2nd round pick

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*Gets #1 power forward, and a potential at a very good player at 31-32 range (to replace Lucas Sbisa or Peter Holland




6th overall pick (? - Galyenchuk, Forsberg, Dumba, Reinhart ?, Ect)
Emerson Etem (RW)
Peter Holland (C)
Lucas Sbisa (D)

CBJ will have there:

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#1 pick (top forward they will need; even the history with Russians I think you have to pick them if only on the basis its a commodity)
#6, (a high end D-man or forward) I still think there will be some great players on table); as listed above
Emerson Etem (top 6 forward)
Lucas Sbisa (#2-3 d-man)* this is where the overpayment may come in
Peter Holland (will be someone who has boom or bust at this point)

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03-12-2012, 05:41 PM
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In recent history there hasn't been a lot seperating the top 3 players. I'm happy to draft between 2-4. Other teams need a star 1RW more than us.

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03-12-2012, 05:45 PM
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**** moving up, I'd rather move down.

We suck so much in so many spots, I seriously think we need quantity over quality.

I'd rather come out of the draft with Faksa and Reinhart, for example, than Grigorenko to be honest.

I'm pretty big on this idea:

Buf 5th overall, Pysyk for Edm 2nd overall

Galchenyuk and Pysyk.

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**** moving up, I'd rather move down.

We suck so much in so many spots, I seriously think we need quantity over quality.

I'd rather come out of the draft with Faksa and Reinhart, for example, than Grigorenko to be honest.

I'm pretty big on this idea:

Buf 5th overall, Pysyk for Edm 2nd overall

Galchenyuk and Pysyk.
Pysyk isn't all that impressive, but that's not my point. Trading down is a gamble I'd rather not suffer though again.

Finish where you finish and draft BPA. Simple

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03-12-2012, 06:03 PM
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I wouldn't move down. If you look at the past drafts, even if it seems close during the draft year, the difference between #2 and down is massive.

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I wouldn't move down. If you look at the past drafts, even if it seems close during the draft year, the difference between #2 and down is massive.
Do you really think the difference between Galchenyuk and Gigorenko is massive?

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03-12-2012, 06:48 PM
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Do you really think the difference between Galchenyuk and Gigorenko is massive?
he hasn't played a game this year so how can you say it isn;t

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he hasn't played a game this year so how can you say it isn;t
Very very high on Galenychuk I think he will be the steal in the draft he is underrated like Couturier (now as a RNH supporter all year I see it) and has Landeskog kind of intensity

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We shouldn't be drafting with our pick, we should be using that pick to acquire a top proven defenseman.

Like posters allude to the fact that defensive prospects take time to develop. I'm a firm believer we are a stud defenseman away from being a cup contender and that we can use this years first round pick to acquire one right now.

It is imperative and a MUST for the Oilers to make the playoffs next year.

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03-12-2012, 08:17 PM
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Very very high on Galenychuk I think he will be the steal in the draft he is underrated like Couturier (now as a RNH supporter all year I see it) and has Landeskog kind of intensity
Yeah Galchenyuk would be a fantastic addition to any team, my concern though is, if with his injury he would be better off playing another year in the OHL.

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We shouldn't be drafting with our pick, we should be using that pick to acquire a top proven defenseman.

Like posters allude to the fact that defensive prospects take time to develop. I'm a firm believer we are a stud defenseman away from being a cup contender and that we can use this years first round pick to acquire one right now.

It is imperative and a MUST for the Oilers to make the playoffs next year.
It has to be a #1 guy though like Weber, and we can't give up the big 3 that's all i am saying, combination of Hemsky + 1st, Paajarvi + Omark + 1st, or anything like that ok.

However, this team has to weigh its options without a #2 center like all the teams who are cup contenders are they really that close.

I look at this way this team is about 5 years from being a cup contender.

Still need better role players, depth at center, and more developed D-man. Guys like Weber are great don't get me wrong but there stop gaps.

Its like Calgary two stop gaps (Iginla, and Kipprusoff; (sp) without either two there a bottom feeder. This team needs to have a mold like Pittsburgh - injuries to significant players still able to be a contender year in and year out. I mean if you counted the number of games that Staal, Malkin, and Crosby have been on the roster it would be mind boggling how few. Staal was injured for a period, Malkin for a bit, Crosby; significant time.

Lets build a team with depth not stop gaps that hide fatal flaws

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I would trade our 1st + Paajarvi if we drop to 3. Not sure what I would trade if we sit at 2.

I haven't really seen many of the prospects in this draft, but Yakupov seems to be the best player by a mile at this stage.

Sucks that he is a winger which is our strongest position, but I would say there is a decent chance he ends up better than Hall/Eberle anyways.

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It has to be a #1 guy though like Weber, and we can't give up the big 3 that's all i am saying, combination of Hemsky + 1st, Paajarvi + Omark + 1st, or anything like that ok.

However, this team has to weigh its options without a #2 center like all the teams who are cup contenders are they really that close.

I look at this way this team is about 5 years from being a cup contender.

Still need better role players, depth at center, and more developed D-man. Guys like Weber are great don't get me wrong but there stop gaps.

Its like Calgary two stop gaps (Iginla, and Kipprusoff; (sp) without either two there a bottom feeder. This team needs to have a mold like Pittsburgh - injuries to significant players still able to be a contender year in and year out. I mean if you counted the number of games that Staal, Malkin, and Crosby have been on the roster it would be mind boggling how few. Staal was injured for a period, Malkin for a bit, Crosby; significant time.

Lets build a team with depth not stop gaps that hide fatal flaws
I think we have built enough depth in our prospect pool to invest a bit of our future and acquire a stud. Sometimes, u have to be aggressive in order to improve.

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