A smooth skating D-man who has incredibly high hockey sense, can play in all situations and is ready to play in the NHL?
I think the guy fits what Stu and Tambo are looking for in a prospect IMO.
I am not all against it, and Oil fans should take note that this team could possibly be a top 10 team next year. The fact of the matter is this team will/is looking for a bonafide #2C meaning with a top 10 pick next year (feel very good about those chances) they will get that guy there has been Pierre Marc Bouchard, Anze Kopitar, and Jeff Carters picked around this area.
The fact of the matter is this team needs to be able to progress in the standings by creating the winning attitude, developing players in the farm team, and building internal competition to see who is a keeper and who is not.
Beyond the top 3, and Hemsky, Petry in 5 years who will be your Patrick Sharp or Ryan Kessler #2 centers that you didn't need a top 5 pick to get. They did it with Eberle (not needing a top 5 pick) but it remains to be seen what they can do in the future.
A smooth skating D-man who has incredibly high hockey sense, can play in all situations and is ready to play in the NHL?
I think the guy fits what Stu and Tambo are looking for in a prospect IMO.
I agree. Murray is the safer pick, Dumba, Reinhart, etc are gambles. I've learned by now that Tambo does not like to gamble (ie. do any reaching) with draft picks.
Said it elsewhere, but Galchenyuk is the one to watch to close out the season. I just wonder if he'll have enough time to show what he has after coming back from injury.
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I agree. Murray is the safer pick, Dumba, Reinhart, etc are gambles. I've learned by now that Tambo does not like to gamble (ie. do any reaching) with draft picks.
I don't think it's Tambo making that call, but if that were true they'd have taken Landeskog.
Said it elsewhere, but Galchenyuk is the one to watch to close out the season. I just wonder if he'll have enough time to show what he has after coming back from injury.
I don't think it's Tambo making that call, but if that were true they'd have taken Landeskog.
I'd be completely floored if Tambo took Galchenyuk 2nd or 3rd overall. Now that would be one helluva gamble. I don't believe Tambo is that kind of guy.
Landeskog was the safe pick. RNH was consensus #1 based on ceiling.
Landeskog is to Murray as RNH is to Dumba.
No, that's not right at all. RNH was by far the best player at the time of the draft while at the same time having the highest ceiling. Number 2 and on were toss-ups.
No, that's not right at all. RNH was by far the best player at the time of the draft while at the same time having the highest ceiling. Number 2 and on were toss-ups.
I agree, if Landeskog were not doing so well right now it would be easier for people to understand this. Kind of a hindsight bias going on here.
Yakupov - Scrambled eggs
Grigorenko - No heart
Galchenyuk - injured beyond repair
Murray - Ceiling like a floor
Dumba - Pitbull in a Maltese body
Rielly - see Galchenyuk
Reinhart - All the tools... no toolbox
Trouba - all 3 people in the world who've seen him play think he's decent
Ceci - the drink, not the straw
Forsberg - Big Mac without special sauce
That pretty much sums up all the front runners from what I've heard about them.
Nail is going to miss the rest of the OHL season, but considering it ends on Saturday, that's pretty much a day-to-day injury. Reports say he only experienced facial injuries, and there hasn't been much said about a possible concussion.
I still don't think it's a question he's going to be a franchise player.
Yakupov - Scrambled eggs
Grigorenko - No heart
Galchenyuk - injured beyond repair
Murray - Ceiling like a floor
Dumba - Pitbull in a Maltese body
Rielly - see Galchenyuk Reinhart - All the tools... no toolbox
Trouba - all 3 people in the world who've seen him play think he's decent
Ceci - the drink, not the straw
Forsberg - Big Mac without special sauce
That pretty much sums up all the front runners from what I've heard about them.
A smooth skating D-man who has incredibly high hockey sense, can play in all situations and is ready to play in the NHL?
I think the guy fits what Stu and Tambo are looking for in a prospect IMO.
I agree that it's likely Murray who is #1 on their list but it would be incredibly stupid for the Oilers to draft him at #2 if Montreal is drafting 3rd because i don't see any scenaio in which they don't pick one of the centers so i would look to trade down to 3rd and gain an asset in return and draft Murray.
However, i have a feeling that the Oilers might very well regret not taking one of the centers in this draft. It's easier to find a top pairing Dman on the trade/FA market than it is to find a #2 or #1b C plus the centers have more upside than the Dmen in this draft according to many.
I've been in the draft Murray camp if the Oilers are insisting on drafting a Dman at all costs, i would just hate to not address the center position right now.
Having an RNH/Grigs/Gally combo down the middle for the next 7-10 years is incredibly enticing and all of a sudden gives the Oilers a lot of ammo to battle the big boys in time.
Landeskog was the safe pick. RNH was consensus #1 based on ceiling.
Landeskog is to Murray as RNH is to Dumba.
Larsson is to Murray as RNH is to Yakupov IMO.
RNH was clearly the consensus #1 by draft time as Yakupov likely will be while Murray and Larsson were looked at as safe picks to be a defensive anchor with supposed limited offensive upside even if the limitations are over-exaggerated.
RNH was clearly the consensus #1 by draft time as Yakupov likely will be while Murray and Larsson were looked at as safe picks to be a defensive anchor with supposed limited offensive upside even if the limitations are over-exaggerated.
^This
The reality of it was there was two contradictory views. The fans vs the scouts.
Most fans questioned RNH's size and yet many scouts thought his hockey smarts outweighed those reasons.
I think it was 6? - 7? scouts out of 10 had RNH on there #1 if drafted list.
When you have people like Hitchcock vouching for you then that's already a pretty big booster.
if we take a C it has to grig, i am always weary of guys that play with the top guy in the draft class, Galchenyuk is good but he could also be riding Nails coattails.
this happened in Ryan Smyths draft year when his linemate Matt Higgins was taken in the first round by montreal, Matt who? exactly
RNH was clearly the consensus #1 by draft time as Yakupov likely will be while Murray and Larsson were looked at as safe picks to be a defensive anchor with supposed limited offensive upside even if the limitations are over-exaggerated.
if we take a C it has to grig, i am always weary of guys that play with the top guy in the draft class, Galchenyuk is good but he could also be riding Nails coattails.
this happened in Ryan Smyths draft year when his linemate Matt Higgins was taken in the first round by montreal, Matt who? exactly
RNH was clearly the consensus #1 by draft time as Yakupov likely will be while Murray and Larsson were looked at as safe picks to be a defensive anchor with supposed limited offensive upside even if the limitations are over-exaggerated.
if we take a C it has to grig, i am always weary of guys that play with the top guy in the draft class, Galchenyuk is good but he could also be riding Nails coattails.
this happened in Ryan Smyths draft year when his linemate Matt Higgins was taken in the first round by montreal, Matt who? exactly
Matt Higgins suffered alot of injuries after he was drafted. Stats don't tell all the answers
Matt Higgins suffered alot of injuries after he was drafted. Stats don't tell all the answers
Its always hard to tell there is a huge difference if you play with Sidney Crosby as opposed to being Gagner and playing with Kane, and Kostitsyn.
It always depends what each players role is on there line. That's why stats don't tell all the answers. Bang on
If you just put in gimme goals of course you will have great stats. Crosby can attest to that even Burrows (nothing against him) but hes playing with two very dynamic players.
Yakupov's production has not got down at all considerably sort of like Huburdeau and Zach Phillips last year.
To me after watching hockey so many years if two players are together and are touted that high in there draft class they have to have considerably more points together then alone.
I know I know not so scientific, but if you can put those two players with other guys and they still end up with the same point totals then its apples and apples. If you see a drop off in one of the two then you can gauge it (we will get to see that with Galenychuk with Yakupov out)...
I still liked Galenychuk's passion and drive from last year. I think what people must remember though there touted 1-2 this isn't Malkin, Hossa, Ovechkin level yet (though Galenychuk has that comparison with Hossa)
Also I would say partly my feelings have changed from last year this team needs a Couturier type C - big guy (Galenychuk will get much bigger) who gives other teams a different look then just small centers.
Also I would say partly my feelings have changed from last year this team needs a Couturier type C - big guy (Galenychuk will get much bigger) who gives other teams a different look then just small centers.
He's going to be huge. Built like a brick ****house.
