Anyway, I love the kids but I hate that they're on a line together again. I didn't like it at the start of the year and I don't like it now. It makes us so damn easy to check. It gives the oppositon one legitimate scoring line/threat to key on.
I have to give the Flames props atm. They're not missing key guys like Iginla or Jokinen (this season's Jokinen) but they're missing half of their roster and have pulled themselves into legitimate contention against all odds.
*kicks ole Glencross horse again* How good would this guy look on our second line right now?
I'm pretty sure it has mostly to do with that man. Without Kipper, the Flames are nowhere near a playoff spot.
Interested in seeing how Galchenyuk does coming back from injury.
It's becoming clear that Gagner needs a rather lengthy set of coattails ahead of him to produce, and Horcoff sure isn't a top 2 center, although he did a great job against Thornton at ES tonight.
FFS Gagner is working with two wingers that have a combined 6NHL goals this season. Not exactly a lot to work with here and Omark is the worst player in the lineup to pair with Gagner. Hows that working. Its never worked.
Welcome to the deepsea diving. Its not even supposed to work. Lets put 3 pass first guys on the same line together..
I don't know how to link to a specific Tweet so I just copied it lol:
Dan Tencer @dantencer
Jordan Eberle talked about the frustration building because of the losing. Too many guys being individuals and not part of a team.
It really sucks when the guys under 26 are the ones carrying the load for a bunch of veterans that should be (on paper at least) a whole lot better.
Now, it's more than just their specific, individual efforts that dictate results (coaching/systems, luck, line combos etc.) but, talented or not, there really shouldn't be such a massive gap in terms of effort and execution between the baby-faced newbies and the veterans that have played in the NHL for a long time.
FFS Gagner is working with two wingers that have a combined 6NHL goals this season. Not exactly a lot to work with here and Omark is the worst player in the lineup to pair with Gagner. Hows that working. Its never worked.
Welcome to the deepsea diving. Its not even supposed to work. Lets put 3 pass first guys on the same line together..
BBBut none of this is Renney's fault. Right? RIGHT?
First you complain about him playing third line minutes with Smyth, now you mad he playing second line minutes with two legitimate top six players? What chu talkin bout willis?
You'd rather him play with a guy not good enough to be in the NHL on a mediocre at best team and Smyth instead of Gagner and Hemsky? You just reeling now. lol.
I havnt complained about him playing third line minutes with Smyth.
If you call Gagner a legitimate top six player you are mad. Gagner is NOT a legitimate top six player in the nhl. Are you crazy?
Hemsky was great one season ago, this season he is not that great.
And yes i would rather have Omark play with Smyth.
Omark is a playmaker, Gagner is supposed to be a playmaker i guess, Hemsky is a playmaker.. do you see any pattern here that might not be a good fit for an entire line?
Omark isnt good defensivly, Gagner isnt good defensivly, Hemsky isnt good defensivly.. any more patterns developing?
Smyth is a play that sure has seen his prime, but he throw hits and he is good along the boards. He is good infront of the net and finds open space and can put the puck in the net.
That fits Omark, he need someone he can pass.
Lander is solid defensivly, has some offensive spark when given the oppertunity and can dish out hits and create space in the offensive zone.
A line like this gives Omark someone that can finish, someone good D more space and someone that can work the boards with him like MPS and Omark did last season.
I'm pretty sure it has mostly to do with that man. Without Kipper, the Flames are nowhere near a playoff spot.
Luckily for the Flames and every other team in the league that has a good goalie. Solid goaltending is an integral part of a hockey team. Something this team hasn't managed to figure out yet.
Dubnyk gives up bad goals like clockwork and Khabibulin is old, inconsistent, and injury prone. Yet is there any suggestion from anyone in the media that this team is going to be trying to find a #1 goalie in the off-season? Doesn't seem to be.
Outside of bad goaltending this was just a bad game to watch. Sharks got their goal in the first minute of the third and it was all over. There wasn't an ounce of push back. That final minute was a comedy of errors that amounted to nothing but a deep feeling of embarrassment in the pit of my stomach that this sort of garbage is even in the NHL.
Horcoff is the only reason RNH or Gagner didn't get ventilated by the Sharks first line tonight. He played his part perfectly at ES.
Unfortunately he inexplicably found the ice when the goalie was pulled (bad coaching) and can never live up to his absurd contract (bad management).
This team is worse without Horcoff. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't watch the games. If he made <2 million and only played a third line role no one would whine.
Wrong as wrong can be. He's been one of the worst players on this team for years, has now lost his faceoff ability and is just pure awful. This total balnoey fallacy of him sheltering anyone is just such bunk. For all the friggin sheltering he has done he doesn;t do it very friggin well as he's been a massive minus sign the last few years. He has gobbled up prime ice time with prime players for years totally underservedly. He has some how wormed his way into peoples hearts as being a valuable guy that is just a bit over paid.
All pure unadultered crap. He's the top minute, top pp, top pk guy over the worst stretch of hockey in oiler history. To top it off the oiler brass with one more bout of insanity made him the captain.
Now he's tougher to get rid of than he was before. Just a god awful player in about 8 out of 10 things you need to be as a pro. He tries to skate hard and he gets in shape and that is it. A total fraud.
If he's trying to send Tambellini a message by playing Potter excessively then I applaud him but I doubt that's the case. Tom & Corey are BFF's.
Seriously, he should be riding Smid, Petry and Schultz as much as possible. The other guys shouldn't see anywhere near 20 mintues.
Why should he be riding Smid, Petry and Schultz...what purpose does it serve?
Aside from giving Petry extra minutes (which Renney is doing) there is no point in riding Smid and Schultz. Give extra minutes to Potter...maybe it will help him for next season.
I think that something's happened in that lockerroom over the past week. Hall looks like he's lost his smile or something -- to coin a phrase. I miss watching him celebrate after goals.
Sorry what was Omark given?
Did he get more than one pass this entire game?
I for one think its obvious when he gets sat in the third that enough is enough, 4 games is up time to send him throw waivers.
If the entire team can get away with lame ass play and omark gets called out for that. Its ridicilous, renney give your head a shake.
Omarks been responsible for the game winning GA in two consecutive games. He's -3 since the call up and has 1pt.
Basically same old same old. High risk/low reward player.
Being that its yours and others want to somehow call out Gagner on Omarks play I'd ask this question.
Who has Omark ever looked good with up here? Maggie?
Luckily for the Flames and every other team in the league that has a good goalie. Solid goaltending is an integral part of a hockey team. Something this team hasn't managed to figure out yet.
Dubnyk gives up bad goals like clockwork and Khabibulin is old, inconsistent, and injury prone. Yet is there any suggestion from anyone in the media that this team is going to be trying to find a #1 goalie in the off-season? Doesn't seem to be.
Outside of bad goaltending this was just a bad game to watch. Sharks got their goal in the first minute of the third and it was all over. There wasn't an ounce of push back. That final minute was a comedy of errors that amounted to nothing but a deep feeling of embarrassment in the pit of my stomach that this sort of garbage is even in the NHL.
If there's one thing Sather always understood is that you need goaltending to be competitive. That's why his Oiler teams were always fighting for a playoff spot every year. Unfortunately, Lowe/Tambo have yet to figure this out.
Anyway, I love the kids but I hate that they're on a line together again. I didn't like it at the start of the year and I don't like it now. It makes us so damn easy to check. It gives the oppositon one legitimate scoring line/threat to key on.
I've said this as well. You risk the Anaheim method. You load up on one line. At least they have Selanne potting 40. Our secondary scoring is already non-existent.
With that said, our 2nd line has no shooters. just passers passing to each other while the time passes and everybody who's passing time to watch them pass basically pass out.
I don't know how to link to a specific Tweet so I just copied it lol:
Dan Tencer @dantencer
Jordan Eberle talked about the frustration building because of the losing. Too many guys being individuals and not part of a team.
He's right, it's been the Oiler way with the vet core of this team for half a decade.
Smyth gets himself tossed from the game because he can't shut up, Hemsky has spent his career living up to Quinn's Lone Ranger assessment, players routinely dump defensive assignments due to lack of trust between teammates, lazy and selfish line changes, selfish offsides and one man shows in the offensive zone, etc etc.
These have been standard problems under 3 coaches now. Eberle(and RNH/Hall) should be irritated as it's not the younger players making the rookie mistakes with no ability to play a consistent team game, but the vets who are supposed to be the leaders of this team.
Why should he be riding Smid, Petry and Schultz...what purpose does it serve?
Aside from giving Petry extra minutes (which Renney is doing) there is no point in riding Smid and Schultz. Give extra minutes to Potter...maybe it will help him for next season.
Why shouldn't he? Those are your three cornerstones at defence moving forward.
There's no helping Potter at this level. He's a career AHLer getting top defence pairing minutes.
Anyway, we both despise Tambellini so we're on the same page for the most part.
I think that something's happened in that lockerroom over the past week. Hall looks like he's lost his smile or something -- to coin a phrase. I miss watching him celebrate after goals.
Losing culture. Tough to get excited over a goal when you know it doesn't mean much in the long run.
