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03-13-2012, 09:47 PM
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I don't follow juniors. Who could we snap up if we got 5th overall?

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That's better for him. Leafs are trying to develop this kid properly,I bet all he's upset about is not getting an NHL paycheck.
Why do you think bad things about the kid? He's said some dumb stuff but he's frustrated, can't blame him completely.

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omg what the **** does burke have to do with a team losing something like 15 of their last 20 games 3/4s of the way through the season?
He put together most of the roster, presumably for an 82 game season.

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im not kidding, just look at a pre and current burke roster. just remember how it used to be... with fletch, and jfj, and berg and toskola, i can go on...
Berg and Kulemin, Grabovski, Schenn, Gunnarsson, Frattin, Stempniak, White, Antropov, Moore, Kaberle, Tlusty, Stalberg, and Kubina.

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Ripping on Kadri for tweeting that he agrees with a fan that he should be on the team? I'm glad he's angry that he isn't on this team. He SHOULD be. Especially when you see guys like Connolly and Lombardi getting an NHL paycheque and showing NOTHING. Kadri was up in December and showed offensive skills that this team is SORELY lacking.

You know what, maybe he IS a ****** in the locker room. But I really don't care. His HOCKEY skills are what this team needed, yet they keep him down on the Marlies. I'd be mad too.

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Rick Nash is exactly the player this team needs. The more I see these leadership-less games the more I believe it. Nash will take pressure of Kessel of scoring and will relieve Phaneuf of veteran stewardship. He also plays a Carlyle type game. Regardless of salary, his 'try to carry the team on my back' personality and play style is what we need. I hope Burke strongly pursues him on draft day, as long as he doesnt sell the farm, I would be ecstatic.

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I'm likely to get flamed hard for this, but there are lot of similarities in situation to Rob Schremp. Offensive minded center who makes the transition to the wing, and puts up big numbers in the OHL/AHL, but can't crack the roster because management sees too many deficiencies in his game. Character issues brought up by media and fans. Divisive opinions through the fanbase.

He's got a physical edge over Schremp though, which could be the difference. Time will tell, but can't help but notice these things
Isn't Schremp also a shootout specialist?

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Why do you think bad things about the kid? He's said some dumb stuff but he's frustrated, can't blame him completely.
He's frustrated with what? He gets top minutes for the Marlies. Why does he feel so entitled? What has he done to deserve being in the big league?

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Ripping on Kadri for tweeting that he agrees with a fan that he should be on the team? I'm glad he's angry that he isn't on this team. He SHOULD be. Especially when you see guys like Connolly and Lombardi getting an NHL paycheque and showing NOTHING. Kadri was up in December and showed offensive skills that this team is SORELY lacking.

You know what, maybe he IS a ****** in the locker room. But I really don't care. His HOCKEY skills are what this team needed, yet they keep him down on the Marlies. I'd be mad too.


This.

There's absolutely no reason why Lombardi is on this team. Where's the accountability? what has he done to earn a spot over anyone in the Marlies? I rather have Orr, at least he brings a fear factor

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Wanting to play for the NHL team is now a piss poor personality disorder?

This is no different than if any other rookie says they want to be with the big club, he just chose to do it outside of standard mediums like interviews.
I'd say there is a difference. In one case, it would be more like a response to a question that the media asks, something that players are obligated to do. And usually, players would say that they want to play, in this case it seems more like Kadri is saying he should be playing, thus indirectly taking a stab at management's decisions.

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Rick Nash is exactly the player this team needs. The more I see these leadership-less games the more I believe it. Nash will take pressure of Kessel of scoring and will relieve Phaneuf of veteran stewardship. He also plays a Carlyle type game. Regardless of salary, his 'try to carry the team on my back' personality and play style is what we need. I hope Burke strongly pursues him on draft day, as long as he doesnt sell the farm, I would be ecstatic.
One of the few teams behind us is the one Rick Nash put on his back. Just saying.

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Burke ass has to be on the line now for the upcoming season. He will need to make significant improvements to this roster to avoid getting canned.

I look at this roster and it's just... man, it's terrible. Connolly, Lombardi, Armstrong, Komisarek are just terrible, our goalies suck, no depth up the middle, and he is responsible for this. Team is filled with crappy contracts too.

He's made awful FA signings, talked a lot but never delivered. He's shown too much faith or loyalty to players like Toskala and even Wilson. Wilson never should have survived getting axed after that 2010 season when Burke made two big FA signings, traded for Kessel and the team finishes 2nd god damn last in the league. The expectations were playoffs and we finish 2nd last, worse than we finished... since god knows when. He showed too much loyalty and faith in Toskala who was freaking terrible and everybody knew it. But for some reason, we go with as our starter and it turns out to be a terrible move.

We're not any better than we were years ago. We've got some young players, sure but this team is missing a #1 center, #1 defensemen, #1 goaltender none of which are easy to acquire and I don't see anyone in the farm system or on the roster that can become that.

I just find it really funny how Burke was always talking about not doing a 5 year re-build and yet, we are in year 4 and still no playoffs. In fact, we are on pace to finish even worse than last year.

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Kadri,in my personal opinion,has some serious character issues. I'm not surprised that Burke doesn't like it. He feels way too entitled. Welcome to the real world.
I don't like him cause he plays hockey like he's playing a video game. Especially when he's trying to throw big hits.

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Burke ass has to be on the line now for the upcoming season. He will need to make significant improvements to this roster to avoid getting canned.

I look at this roster and it's just... man, it's terrible. Connolly, Lombardi, Armstrong, Komisarek are just terrible, our goalies suck, no depth up the middle, and he is responsible for this. Team is filled with crappy contracts too.

He's made awful FA signings, talked a lot but never delivered. He's shown too much faith or loyalty to players like Toskala and even Wilson. Wilson never should have survived getting axed after that 2010 season when Burke made two big FA signings, traded for Kessel and the team finishes 2nd god damn last in the league. The expectations were playoffs and we finish 2nd last, worse than we finished... since god knows when. He showed too much loyalty and faith in Toskala who was freaking terrible and everybody knew it. But for some reason, we go with as our starter and it turns out to be a terrible move.

We're not any better than we were years ago. We've got some young players, sure but this team is missing a #1 center, #1 defensemen, #1 goaltender none of which are easy to acquire and I don't see anyone in the farm system or on the roster that can become that.

I just find it really funny how Burke was always talking about not doing a 5 year re-build and yet, we are in year 4 and still no playoffs. In fact, we are on pace to finish even worse than last year.
Hope he is fired soon. Most likely nothing will change next year.

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This.

There's absolutely no reason why Lombardi is on this team. Where's the accountability? what has he done to earn a spot over anyone in the Marlies? I rather have Orr, at least he brings a fear factor
Not to mention Connolly.

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One of the few teams behind us is the one Rick Nash put on his back. Just saying.
Im not saying he did carry the team. I said his attitude of trying to carry the team is what we need. The guy shows persistance and determination regardless of constant failure around him.

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Kadri,in my personal opinion,has some serious character issues. I'm not surprised that Burke doesn't like it. He feels way too entitled. Welcome to the real world.
i agree... from what ive heard (in kitchener and london) not from personal experience but close enough to a few decent sources for me to be skeptical this KID isnt a peice for us to build around


was right pissed on draft fay 2009 and still would have preffered us going in another direction other than drafting in spite due to the sens


extremely skilled player but too many holes in his game with a big enough ego/ sense of entitlement not to overcome them


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I think Kessel is really struggling playing without Lupul. You can see how his play went up even last season when Lupul arrived, and they've both been feeding off one another big time this year. I think alone, neither is as good as they've shown for most of this season, probably more like 50-65 point players, at least at this point in time.

As for Grabo, no way in hell I trade one of our best players just because his cap hit is a bit high. He gives us defensive responsibility, skill at center, and he makes things happen all the time, even when they don't translate to goals. We're not going to get better by shipping out the only things that are working for us.
I think Lupul is the MVP of this team personally, he does a lot of things that are not as flashy as Kessel, that allows Phil to look good. If I had to keep 1 I'd keep Lupul. 1 thing I didn't know about him prior to this year, he is a much better leader than Phaneuf. To me he is the guy I'd keep. This team isn't going to turn around on the usual secondary signing or deal this summer. Burke has to go deeper this year, no doubt we can't afford to not go into next season without more leaders on this team, more size, will, courage, and yes truculence. There is something wrong with the chemistry of the players we have. We've allowed enough time to see what this team is capable of, and they failed the test, folded this year. Instead of repeating the mistake of staying with Wilson too long, a similar mistake of sticking with these same players another year will lead to a similar error. I don't see how a few moves will be enough to change the direction this team is headed in.

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I don't like him cause he plays hockey like he's playing a video game. Especially when he's trying to throw big hits.
If I could play hockey like I play NHL12, I would be all time, everything.

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I'd say there is a difference. In one case, it would be more like a response to a question that the media asks, something that players are obligated to do. And usually, players would say that they want to play, in this case it seems more like Kadri is saying he should be playing, thus indirectly taking a stab at management's decisions.
How can you fault anyone for doing that, let alone one of our top prospects, when the team can't win a game to save their lives right now?

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Wanting to play for the NHL team is now a piss poor personality disorder?

This is no different than if any other rookie says they want to be with the big club, he just chose to do it outside of standard mediums like interviews.
whining about it over twitter isnt the way of doing it .....

unprofessional and with a guy like burke at the helm it wont help his case, unless it is a step towards being traded in which well probably get less value

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I'm fine with Kadri being pissed off that he isn't on the big club. He thinks he deserves a shot, so be it. But he shouldn't have gone public with it. Keep it internal or play your ass off to earn a spot.

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