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03-14-2012, 01:06 PM
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Question: Was Hitchcock nominated the year the Blue Jackets made it into the playoffs?

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Hitchcock has a slight advantage on MacLean due to the fact that he came in half way through the season. It is far easier to see that a coach is the reason for improvement when you see how the team was with the same roster under another coach.

I do think that if Sens win their division, that MacLean does need to get some serious recognition. Because frankly, going from a lottery team to top in their division is a far greater accomplishment than going from a bubble team to top of their division. If that doesn't happen, Hitchcock will win it, but people are really underestimating what MacLean has done with the sens.

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03-14-2012, 01:08 PM
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Doesn't matter since Hitchcock is a lock to win this.

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03-14-2012, 01:11 PM
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Question: Was Hitchcock nominated the year the Blue Jackets made it into the playoffs?
Was Columbus a borderline President's Trophy team, or borderline playoff team?

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03-14-2012, 01:21 PM
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I'd expect Babcock to be up there again...that home winning streak was just crazy.

But it's Hitch's to win. Takes over midseason AND gets the Blues a shot at the President's trophy? MacLean, Gulutzan, Dineen have done great jobs, but the level of success that Hitch has brought to St Louis just puts him over the top.
Since when is 13 or 14 games midseason? (Edit: Or am I wrong on that, I thought he came in when the Blues were something like 6-7).

I don't know why Torts isn't even in the discussion. Even his own fans think that the Rangers overachieved. The Rangers were a fringe playoff team last year and added one piece who hasn't been even that great for most of the year.

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03-14-2012, 01:23 PM
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Was Columbus a borderline President's Trophy team, or borderline playoff team?
I wasn't trying to be an @ss, I was genuinely asking. I'm just wondering if Hitch got credit for his time in Columbus.

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03-14-2012, 02:40 PM
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Hitch will win for sure but the fact that the big dude in Nashville has never won is the most criminal thing in hockey as far as awards go.

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03-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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I can't see this not being Hitchcock, and I'm a Rangers fan

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03-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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He should be nominated but Hitch has it locked.

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03-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Exactly, that's why our creative players in McDonald, Oshie, and Perron are having such bad seasons. And what exactly is his message? Please elaborate, I didn't realize you had access to the Blues locker room.

McLean is a very good coach and deserves a nomination at the very least, I do not disagree with that at all. And it really must be a joy to watch your team let in almost as many goals as they score.
Those guys you mentioned really aren't what I am talking about, as in pure high end skill guys.

Listen Hitch is as good defensive coach as there is IMO, more so than even Jaques Martin and has won a cup before with a talent latent team in Dallas.

But he has done something similar to what he is doing this year in Columbus before few season back when they led the NHL in the lowest goals against in the league (when scoring was higher) and Leclair who is out of an NHL job now won the jennings trophy and a huge 3 year contract to follow. When he got fire from CBJ, I didn't think he would get hired again soon with the new tren of going for younger or fresher coaches.

I wanna see how he handles offensive young players coming over specially from euro countries i.e. Tarasenko. Not so much with Schwartz.

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03-14-2012, 02:59 PM
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If the Sens manage to take the division....there is a conversation to be had.

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03-14-2012, 03:01 PM
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It's Hitchcock's this year, even the most delusional Ottawa fans should realize this.
It shouldn't be though. His team is right were they were expected to be. Davis Payne was just not an NHL coach.

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03-14-2012, 03:04 PM
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I think Maclean should be nominated, but Hitchcock has this award locked up imo.

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03-14-2012, 03:05 PM
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03-14-2012, 03:08 PM
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Don't speak to soon, lets see how the season ends. Ottawa is only 2 points behind the cup champs, and are gunning to be slotted 2nd in the east.

MacLean is a great coach, I can't find any flaws.
And the Blues are only 15 points UP on the cup champs...in a much tougher division.

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03-14-2012, 03:15 PM
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It shouldn't be though. His team is right were they were expected to be. Davis Payne was just not an NHL coach.
Haha what?

That team looks nothing like a 1st place team on paper IMO.


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When you think about it though, there is no reason they should have ever been a lottery team. Karlsson, Spezza, Alfredsson, Michalek and Anderson is at worst an average core of an NHL team.

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03-14-2012, 03:27 PM
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St. Louis is a great team with wonderful depth pretty much across the roster, especially goaltending and they play a very successful, strict system.

Ottawa is a team with some star power, and young guys playing big minutes and some old guys looking rejuvenated in a higher scoring, more risky system.

You can't really argue that either of them aren't worthy of the trophy. As a Sens fan who is still delighted to look at the standings every morning, I'd love to see Maclean win it, but I think that Hitchcock has it in the bag.

Have to give props to Dineen in Florida as well.

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03-14-2012, 03:31 PM
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Get in line. There are about 8 or 9 guys with good claims.

Trotz, Babcock, DeBoer, Tippett, Florida's coach, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Tortorella and, yes, Wilford Brimley up in Ottawa.

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I think it's safe to say that Hitch has the Jack Adams on lockdown this year, but that shouldn't take away from the phenomenal job Maclean is doing in Ottawa.

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Get in line. There are about 8 or 9 guys with good claims.

Trotz, Babcock, DeBoer, Tippett, Florida's coach, Hitchcock, Boudreau, Tortorella and, yes, Wilford Brimley up in Ottawa.
what?

Detroit has dropped in the standingS this year... can't remember the last time a coach won a Jack Adams award with a team that achieved less than the year before.

The Coyotes went up a couple positions... not nearly good enough for their coach to win the award for league's best coach. They wouldn't even be in the playoffs if it weren't for the Sharks tanking.

Anaheim isn't in the playoffs... says enough about Boudreau.

Hitchcock and MacLean are 1 and 2... Dineen, Torts and DeBoer close behind.

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03-14-2012, 04:13 PM
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Any other year and he'd be a lock. But this season is all Hitchcock.

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what?

Detroit has dropped in the standingS this year... can't remember the last time a coach won a Jack Adams award with a team that achieved less than the year before.

The Coyotes went up a couple positions... not nearly good enough for their coach to win the award for league's best coach. They wouldn't even be in the playoffs if it weren't for the Sharks tanking.

Anaheim isn't in the playoffs... says enough about Boudreau.

Hitchcock and MacLean are 1 and 2... Dineen, Torts and DeBoer close behind.
Babcock should be a candidate because its criminal he's never won and, say, Bob Francis has during his tenure. They also broke a home winning-streak record.

Anaheim has been night and day under Boudreau. He took a lottery team and got it to playoff contention. That's not to be dismissed.

Not saying either should win, but they should get consideration.

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03-14-2012, 04:39 PM
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I would give it to Hitchcock because of the defensive system in place. The Blues can give up 24 goals in their last 11 games and still be under a 2.00 GAA. I honestly cant believe the numbers defensively on that team.

Maclean has to be a strong candidate though, I honestly thought the Senators would finish 12th-15th this season in the East. However Maclean has gotten the best out all his core guys and the Senators are playing a great team game.

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If the Sens manage to take the division....there is a conversation to be had.
If the Sens win the division this Jack Adams race could be pretty tight.

Most writers, analysts and fans had the Senators pegged for last in their division and to basically be challenging for a lottery pick. To win the division and finish 2nd in the East would be quite the accomplishment.

As of right now Hithcock has it, but if they can grab the division I think it could go either way.

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