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OK to hit women if angry, 8% of Alberta men say

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03-15-2012, 11:51 AM
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OK to hit women if angry, 8% of Alberta men say

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ce-survey.html

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/ok-hit-wome...202949316.html

http://www.acws.ca/documents/Present...algaryBWTG.pdf
Exaggeration, Misleading question, or some truth.

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03-15-2012, 12:03 PM
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Wasn't even the most shocking part of the survey in my opinion. The thoughts on rape were quite something.

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I just skimmed the pdf and can't find a source for this 8% figure. Am I missing something? What was the question exactly?

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03-15-2012, 12:15 PM
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I didn't find it either. They must not have put it in the Powerpoint report for some reason.

I'm actually surprised that this poll was done over the phone. That leads to social desirability bias. We would have more accurate results if this was done online or on a paper survey.

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I wonder what the percentage is for women (ok to hit men if angry).

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03-15-2012, 12:22 PM
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On page 10, the second to last item shows 92% say it's never acceptable to physically assault if they do something to cause anger - by implication, the other 8% say it can be acceptable.

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I wonder what the percentage is for women (ok to hit men if angry).
99%

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On page 10, the second to last item shows 92% say it's never acceptable to physically assault if they do something to cause anger - by implication, the other 8% say it can be acceptable.
Play on words by the CBC then.

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Play on words by the CBC then.
If by play on words you actually mean bovine scatology you are correct.

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03-15-2012, 12:58 PM
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If by play on words you actually mean bovine scatology you are correct.
I tried to be civil.

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If by play on words you actually mean bovine scatology you are correct.
No, that would be correct.

The survey question was likely asked thusly: "would you say it is always, often, rarely, or never acceptable to do each of the following...?", and 92% answered never. Therefore, the other 8% answered always/often/rarely - which means they believe it's acceptable, at least under certain circumstances.

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No, that would be correct.

The survey question was likely asked thusly: "would you say it is always, often, rarely, or never acceptable to do each of the following...?", and 92% answered never. Therefore, the other 8% answered always/often/rarely - which means they believe it's acceptable, at least under certain circumstances.
You're projecting.

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No, that would be correct.

The survey question was likely asked thusly: "would you say it is always, often, rarely, or never acceptable to do each of the following...?", and 92% answered never. Therefore, the other 8% answered always/often/rarely - which means they believe it's acceptable, at least under certain circumstances.
That's not at all the same as "Okay if angry." That is "okay under certain circumstances, not necessarily just because you're angry."

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You're projecting.
I have no idea what you mean.

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That's not at all the same as "Okay if angry." That is "okay under certain circumstances, not necessarily just because you're angry."
No, the question was specific to "doing something to make him angry".

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No, the question was specific to "doing something to make him angry".
Still not the same thing. What if the woman intended to make him angry by beating him with a baseball bat?

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That may be what those 8% were thinking.

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I have no idea what you mean.
You don't know what the other 8% answered. It isn't stated. You are guessing. They may well have said not sure. Or always, hammer them every morning. Or a mix of many different answers.

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You don't know what the other 8% answered. It isn't stated. You are guessing. They may well have said not sure. Or always, hammer them every morning. Or a mix of many different answers.
If Leger are the professionals that I know them for in the market research industry, I'm pretty sure they've set up that question as I indicated above, or something along those lines (it could have also been a yes/no question).

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If Leger are the professionals that I know them for in the market research industry, I'm pretty sure they've set up that question as I indicated above, or something along those lines (it could have also been a yes/no question).
It could have been anything. You are projecting your own ideas onto what was asked, how it was asked, how the poll was designed, what answers were available. All of it.

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There are certainly questions in that presentation where "agree" and "disagree" don't add up to 100%, so it's conceivable that the number is not actually 8%.

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It could have been anything. You are projecting your own ideas onto what was asked, how it was asked, how the poll was designed, what answers were available. All of it.
"Do you think it is not ok to hit women when they don't not do anything to not make you not angry?" Yes/No.

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"Do you think it is not ok to hit women when they don't not do anything to not make you not angry?" Yes/No.
I responded too quickly. Good one Moose.


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It could have been anything. You are projecting your own ideas onto what was asked, how it was asked, how the poll was designed, what answers were available. All of it.
Well, it's your prerogative if you wish to believe that I don't know what I'm talking about, but again, I know the Leger company at a professional level, and I have a pretty good idea how they have done this.

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There are certainly questions in that presentation where "agree" and "disagree" don't add up to 100%, so it's conceivable that the number is not actually 8%.
Only if they provided a "don't know/no answer" as an option (very unlikely), or if they didn't percentage out of those who answered the question (again, very unlikely).

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