They have 9 games to go, but L.A. has a point more and 10 games. San Jose has a point more and 2 games at hand. Colorado has 2 points more and Calgary has a game at hand on them. There's way more to it than "2 points out!"...
They have to pass all of those teams.
Let's say Calgary - optimistically - goes 5-2-2 in their last 9 games. In order for that to be enough to make the playoffs, they need L.A. to go 4-4-2 (or 5-5-0), and San Jose to go 4-5-2 (or 5-6-0), and Colorado to 4-4, or 3-3-2, etc.
If ANY of those teams out-perform those records, Calgary is golfing by April 10th... So Calgary needs to go 5-2-2 (or better), and hope that San Jose, Los Angeles, and Colorado all go 0.500 or worse.
San Jose also plays Los Angeles twice more, so one those teams are guaranteed to take 2 points in those games.
Chicago is "only" 4 points back of Nashville and Detroit, yet to pass EITHER of them they'll likely need to pick up 14 points in their last 9 games (6-1-2, etc)...
People never, ever understand how difficult it is to pass multiple teams who have games at hand.
Good points but you also have to factor in Phoenix and Dallas into the equation as well whom Calgary is close to. Phoenix is 2 points better with the same games played. Dallas is 2 points better with 1 game in hand.
Calgary needs to finish higher than 3 of Dallas, Phoenix, Colorado, San Jose, and Los Angeles. That's five teams. With a good stretch that's very realistic. Much better than your "have to finish higher than all four of these specific teams".
The Pacific teams play each other a lot so hopefully for the Flames sake those games get decided in regulation and decisively with one team pulling away for the Division title and issuing losses to a couple of them. Dropping games back to back against Edmonton and Columbus is absolutely unacceptable for a team pushing for the playoffs but they aren't out of it.
Circle those games against Colorado (x2), Dallas (x2), and Los Angeles. I bet how they do in those seven games will determine their fate.
Wow...that sure is some impressive surge there Calgary...two worse teams in the league and you guys lose both games....wow.....
Seriously do not use injuries as an excuse ...those guys are hardly stars and if your team is depending on those scrubs, then you truly are in trouble going forward! Of course, everyone pretty knows that with the Flames except Flame fans....
Yeah they are going in circles IMO too. It's weird because the Flames seem good enough to be on the cusp of a playoff spot. They get into 9th or a tie for 8th but then lose when it counts. It's been like that for 3 years. They're great at hanging around, bad at pushing through for the final surge and playoff seed clinching and even worse at tanking for a high pick
Yeah they are going in circles IMO too. It's weird because the Flames seem good enough to be on the cusp of a playoff spot. They get into 9th or a tie for 8th but then lose when it counts. It's been like that for 3 years. They're great at hanging around, bad at pushing through for the final surge and playoff seed clinching and even worse at tanking for a high pick
I'll be just find if the Flames pick 13th again with the ability to pick up a player with the caliber of Bartschi.
But beyond that, the draft is won in the latter rounds.
I'll be just find if the Flames pick 13th against with the ability to pick up a player with the caliber of Bartschi.
But beyond that, the draft is won in the latter rounds.
True enough. Problem is the Flames need to pick a Bartschi every year at 10-15 if they're going to keep gunning for 8th... unless they're going to start mining the lower reaches of the draft for gems and by gems I don't mean Lance Bouma, T.J. Brodie or Ryan Howse. Needs to go beyond that.
Good points but you also have to factor in Phoenix and Dallas into the equation as well whom Calgary is close to. Phoenix is 2 points better with the same games played. Dallas is 2 points better with 1 game in hand.
Calgary needs to finish higher than 3 of Dallas, Phoenix, Colorado, San Jose, and Los Angeles. That's five teams. With a good stretch that's very realistic. Much better than your "have to finish higher than all four of these specific teams".
The Pacific teams play each other a lot so hopefully for the Flames sake those games get decided in regulation and decisively with one team pulling away for the Division title and issuing losses to a couple of them. Dropping games back to back against Edmonton and Columbus is absolutely unacceptable for a team pushing for the playoffs but they aren't out of it.
Circle those games against Colorado (x2), Dallas (x2), and Los Angeles. I bet how they do in those seven games will determine their fate.
The more teams there are Calgary has to pass, the less likely the playoffs are.
Calgary needs 13 points in their last 9 games - a 6-2-1 or 5-1-3 record - to have a good chance at the playoffs.. and even then they're not guaranteed.
If Calgary picks up 11 points - which is 5-3-1, or 4-2-3 - they have a 25% chance or less. They'll need a LOT of help. Anything less than that and it's definitely not going to happen.
The more teams there are Calgary has to pass, the less likely the playoffs are.
Calgary needs 13 points in their last 9 games - a 6-2-1 or 5-1-3 record - to have a good chance at the playoffs.. and even then they're not guaranteed.
If Calgary picks up 11 points - which is 5-3-1, or 4-2-3 - they have a 25% chance or less. They'll need a LOT of help. Anything less than that and it's definitely not going to happen.
They need to finish ahead of 3 but they can finish behind 2 and still make the playoffs. It's not as bad you're making it out to be. They have 7 games against teams they're directly competing against, playing Colorado and Dallas twice. If they win those matchups and do it in regulation they look good.
I'll be just find if the Flames pick 13th again with the ability to pick up a player with the caliber of Bartschi.
But beyond that, the draft is won in the latter rounds.
Getting a good player at where you guys draft is a crap shoot and your history shows you guys are usually drafting duds ad nauseum!
Bart is what we call an anomaly....you will not do that every year that is for sure....however, if you guys ever decide to do a real rebuild and actually start over, you may end up with some nice high draft positions for a couple of years and be on your way back up...as it stands, your future is abysmal to say the least!
Wouldn't mind seeing a Calgary/Vancouver series, those 2 always put up great playoff matches. Would like to see Calgary make the playoffs anyway to have 3 teams from Canada in the playoffs (Could be 4 as Winnipeg is only 2 points out in the East)
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Exhibit A as to how hockey doesn't matter on ESPN:
Last night an ESPN program was discussing how the Detroit Pistons needed a hero citing the heroes on the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Lions and no mention of the Detroit Red Wings. All this despite the Red Wings probably being the most succesful team in Detroit right now.
Wouldn't mind seeing a Calgary/Vancouver series, those 2 always put up great playoff matches. Would like to see Calgary make the playoffs anyway to have 3 teams from Canada in the playoffs (Could be 4 as Winnipeg is only 2 points out in the East)
The Flames just lost to the two worst teams in the league - continuing their season-long trend of running hot and then cold. I don't think they're making the playoffs.
Kipper only let in 1 goal tonight.. then stopped the first 3 shots in the shootout.
Wish he was a Hawk
Iginla has more points with less talented teammates than Patrick Kane. For someone you proclaim to be more clutch, he sure isn't doing so well this year.
Getting a good player at where you guys draft is a crap shoot and your history shows you guys are usually drafting duds ad nauseum!
Bart is what we call an anomaly....you will not do that every year that is for sure....however, if you guys ever decide to do a real rebuild and actually start over, you may end up with some nice high draft positions for a couple of years and be on your way back up...as it stands, your future is abysmal to say the least!
Is that what the Flyers did now? A "real rebuild"?
You can call it whatever you want but some people here need to stop acting like they know more about the prospects of Calgary than actual Calgary fans.
I wouldn't say Calgary was surging. I'm only coming in this thread now because I can't imagine the trolling that went on these last few days. Calgary only won 5 games in a row. Many teams have done that this season. It's not "surging." The Flames were just playing their best hockey (which they quickly forgot about) this season.
I wouldn't say Calgary was surging. I'm only coming in this thread now because I can't imagine the trolling that went on these last few days. Calgary only won 5 games in a row. Many teams have done that this season. It's not "surging." The Flames were just playing their best hockey (which they quickly forgot about) this season.
I'm an Avalanche fan but they have certainly been doing very well lately. They have points in 18 of their last 22 games.
Is that what the Flyers did now? A "real rebuild"?
You can call it whatever you want but some people here need to stop acting like they know more about the prospects of Calgary than actual Calgary fans.
When the Flames can sign players of similar qaulity to Timmonen, Harntell, and Briere in the off-season, and have two young players the quality of Richards and Carter ready to break out, you can start to compare yourselves to Philly.
When the Flames can sign players of similar qaulity to Timmonen, Harntell, and Briere in the off-season, and have two young players the quality of Richards and Carter ready to break out, you can start to compare yourselves to Philly.
I must have missed where he compared the Flames to the Flyers.
He's suggesting that the Flames don't have to go through a "true" rebuild because teams like the Flyers did it. Seems pretty obvious to me.
The Flames won't be going through a "traditional" rebuild because it is pathetic.
The organization is and has been revamped since Darryl left. We're improving our drafting, scouting, and development. We know that we can get good players beyond the top 10.
i just want the canucks to play whoever will beat them up the least, and I think a Calgary series would be very physical
maybe Avs, Dallas or even Phx would be better ...
dunno, they'd all be tough
