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05-18-2012, 08:35 PM
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Nicklas Jensen new top prospect in Vancouver top-20

The Canucks aren't blessed with an overly deep group of prospects, but there are a few players at the top of the list that have some good potential and upside, the most notable being Nicklas Jensen.

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05-19-2012, 12:50 AM
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In the past, some posters have been a bit peeved by these ratings, but I think they're worthwhile just for generating discussion. I'd have ranked Sauve higher. He's not looking like a star in the making, but I think it's likely he'll have an NHL career, perhaps on a bottom pair somewhere. That's more than I'd say for several of the prospects ranked ahead of him. I'd also have Corrado on the list somewhere, taking off a player like Price or Anthony.

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Tanev at a 6.5B bugs me a bit.

6.5 is a 4-5 defenseman, which I feel like he already almost is (#5 at least). I think he has the potential to be a top pairing guy (not really a number 1, but maybe a #2 and would probably peg his "realistic" projection as a solid #3 D man).

Probably should be a 7.5C I think.

Lack should probably be a 7.5B

Cannata should be higher.

Other than that I think they're pretty good.

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Grenier is higher than I expected.

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What does the number and the letter indicate?

Current value/potential?

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Man, it's like Sawyer Hannay doesn't even exist. Do your homework guys!


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What does the number and the letter indicate?

Current value/potential?
I think it's potential rating/chance of reaching that level

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05-19-2012, 01:21 AM
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I think it's potential rating/chance of reaching that level
Thanks for clarifying.

In that case, I think Tanev should be at least a 7B.

Kassian probably a 7.5C.

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until tanev proves he can shoot the puck he'll continue to get boned in any ratings.

thought corrado should have cracked the top 20. i think he's a better prospect than polasek, and everyone below him.

pretty sad that the highest upside of any canucks prospect is a 7.5c, and he's the only one over 7. just fyi, justin schultz is an 8.0c

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What does the number and the letter indicate?

Current value/potential?
Here's the explanation: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

They usually link it in the article, guess somebody forgot.

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Anyone else notice that MA Gragnani is listed as a prospect and isn't in the top 20? That alone makes me happy

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I already think Tanev is at least a 6.5A, but probably more of a 7B.

Edit: Also don't get how Sweatt is behind Honzik who's still in junior? And same for Corrado who's not even in the list. At least we're not seeing the likes of Rai or Tochkin in these anymore.


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05-19-2012, 02:40 AM
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Frank Corrado not in the top 20? umm ok.

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Anyone else notice that MA Gragnani is listed as a prospect and isn't in the top 20? That alone makes me happy
Why? I wouldn't be surprised to see MAG make the Canucks roster in the fall. He has a great offensive skillset and he skates well. He didn't play very well in the defensive end, but most defensemen take months to get used to new defensive systems. Depending on what happens this offseason (and training camp), I could see him easily being a 7-8 guy on the roster, slotting in against less physical opponents like Detroit. Obviously, this hinges heavily on whether or not we re-sign Rome, who has certainly earned a contract renewal and a raise, but there are the questions of how much and is he happy with his non-permanent role with the team, if we sign Schultz, Garrison, and/or another free agent Dman, and whether Salo decides to hang up his skates.

As for Corrado, he earned a lot of praise playing in Sudbury this year, but he is really lacking offensive upside. With the direction the league is heading, that could be one of the reasons why he was left off the list (along with Hannay, although I personally think Hannay is a real long shot to make the NHL).

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Corrado's omission is absolutely ridiculous, and Grenier and Honzik don't belong so high on this list.

The polls we do here during the summer are usually way better.

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not the best, but way better than some of the previous lists.

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Anyone else notice that MA Gragnani is listed as a prospect and isn't in the top 20? That alone makes me happy
He shouldn't even be listed as a prospect though. He no longer fits the HF criteria.

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I'd say Cannata's showed more promise than a "6.5", but I guess these can be changed over time.

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Tanev is rated fairly given what he has shown so far. Unless he can seriously improve his shot, he will not be anything more than a defensive positionally-sound #4 defenceman. If you look at his historic stats, the goal-scoring has been pretty bad, save for his RIT year where he scored 10 goals in 41 games. However, even that year, (according to HockeyDB at least) 4 other defencemen on his team scored more goals than him. It's actually quite strange how much that team relied on defencemen to produce goals...

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I have less of an issue with the 6.5 than i do with the "B" rating.

Tanev has arrived, he's a lock as a bottom pairing dman in the NHL with potential to be a #3/4 dman.

6.5A would be my ranking.

I'd probably go with the following top 10:

Jensen
Kassian
Lack
Schroeder
Tanev
Connauton
Rodin
Corrado
Grenier

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Grenier got a pretty good writeup. Getting pumped to see this guy develop over the next couple years.

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They've got it more or less right.

I think Lack could be a 7.5c or a 7.0B.
Tanev is about right at 6.5B, or he could be a 7.5D
I think Cannata and Corrado should be rated higher.

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until tanev proves he can shoot the puck he'll continue to get boned in any ratings.

thought corrado should have cracked the top 20. i think he's a better prospect than polasek, and everyone below him.

pretty sad that the highest upside of any canucks prospect is a 7.5c, and he's the only one over 7. just fyi, justin schultz is an 8.0c
I want Schultz on this team.
Make it happen, Mike Gillis!

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These rankings are worthless anyway. As someone pointed on the prospects board, the Canadiens had one of the top ranked prospect pools in 03/04 and got **** all out of it.

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These rankings are worthless anyway. As someone pointed on the prospects board, the Canadiens had one of the top ranked prospect pools in 03/04 and got **** all out of it.


The HF prospect ratings and pool evaluations have always been suspect. But variance is a part of projection. Personally, I don't think that they are that far off in their ratings this time.



I think they short-changed Kassian a bit though - even sighting great potential in his write-up, but then giving him a 7C rating? Doesn't make sense. If he ever puts it together and becomes a legit top6er, then that is a pretty rare player. Those types shouldn't get 7 ratings. He actually dropped from 7.5 I believe.


The pool does look pretty shallow though - if you see it in this light. The Canucks need more high end prospects.

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