Koivu, Hagman and a new grinder would make a rather nice 3rd line. Teemu could easily play on the first line, but second line minutes are better for his age. The problem about Ducks this season has been pretty much everything else. Like Getzy and Perry playing under par.
Do we want Selanne to play next season, if he doesn't want to play on the 3rd line? While I think it would work because BB plays all the lines a similar amount, the feeling I've been getting here is "third line or nothing".
Do we want Selanne to play next season, if he doesn't want to play on the 3rd line? While I think it would work because BB plays all the lines a similar amount, the feeling I've been getting here is "third line or nothing".
Find me a better right winger who will play for under 5 million. Better yet find me a better right winger at all through UFA.
I can't imagine why someone wouldn't want him to play next season.
Find me a better right winger who will play for under 5 million. Better yet find me a better right winger at all through UFA.
I can't imagine why someone wouldn't want him to play next season.
lol. these people are incredible. I understand wanting to get Teemu on the golf course so we can replace the second line. but next season?!?!?!
who says this season is the better season to start than next era of the ducks? general consensus is that Statsny and Parise are the only worthwhile guys availible, and we can't afford either... especially not Parise (without trading Ryan) so we aren't going to be able to sign anyone worth while, even with Selanne and Koivu gone. ... and especially with Ryan's value going down quite a bit this season.
who the heck is this better second line RW we are going to bring in ?
as far as I'm concerned, if Samueli can't raise the "budget" a measly 3 million (if Selanne agrees to sign for 3 million) . We shouldn't even worry about bringing Selanne back next year, because the team will not be very competitive.
I'm, we do WHATEVER we can so sign Selanne AND Koivu. and find a LW that fits well on the second line, or third line... or a center capable of playing second line minutes... unlike Bonino for the most part.
all the teams that have huge succes have amazing guys on all three lines.
we could start off with this line up next season.... if we do absolutely nothing.
assuming we keep Selanne and Koivu, and sign blake or Hagman cheap... LW is the first giant hole I see, (RW being the obvious surplus) , and BIG need for a future #2 center... we don't get to any any moves until the draft.
singing a future star center at the draft would be huge. but we'd have to be pretty lucky to get that.
to me, it seems like we need a LW first and foremost, center second.
We can make this team competitive next season, especially if Schultz performs up to expectations. All this BS about him wanting to play with Gardiner is crap... the only possible explanation I can think up, is that he doesn't like Cam Fowler, and is scare about being on the same team with a similar type player.
The FA pool is very weak, and we could probably make a much bigger splash the NEXT off season. with all that cap space from the old guys gone for good, and better FA's to sign.
let alone... if we **** up big time again, we won't **** around at the deadline again, a trade will be made.
anyone who doesn't want Teemu around should forfeit your ducks card. complaining about his PP performance (while being a top performer in comparison with the rest of the league) , is one thing... but saying you want the Ducks greatest player to retire a bit early, "for the better of team".... come the heck on. how could you even begin to think that makes sense. We have no way of getting top players on the Ducks, because they all play for other teams. Selanne retiring would make us look at the Columbus or Edmonton rebuild options... and would be terrible... except for the cheap owner.
DSP is far from a shoe-in for the first line, but as far as I see, the only player we have a chance at just singing over FA, capable of a first line role, is Penner, and he'd have to give us strong signals he's be willing to put in the right effort we need to win, and sign a very modest contract.
I agree with Teemu. Those players make Millions of Dollars and you think you can straighten them out with 2500$ fines?
I think the Raffi Torres suspension length would be appropriate for first time offenders as well. This would make players think twice about their play.
Selänne: "I could've said yes to Worlds and then retire, or play another year with Ducks. Couldn't do both." Don't read into that. #NHLDucks
Matias Strozyk @MaStrozyk
Teemu Selänne describes $2500 fines "a joke", calls for longer suspensions. Says respect among players has vanished. #NHLDucks
A Finnish "mid-level" journalists twitter
Both quotes are from Teemu's latest blog, available in Finnish HERE.
Teemu also makes a point regarding suspension, that even though a 10 game suspension for a 7 million man, and the associated loss of almost a million of salary, could make the player think, the lack of loss of salary during the playoffs makes suspensions a bit less efficient.
I think the Raffi Torres suspension length would be appropriate for first time offenders as well. This would make players think twice about their play.
A 20 point a year scrub with a history launched himself at speed into the head of a 75 point superstar. It's exactly the type of play the league is trying to get rid of.
A 20 point a year scrub with a history launched himself at speed into the head of a 75 point superstar. It's exactly the type of play the league is trying to get rid of.
Referring to giving 25 games to anyone who does a hit like that, not referring to Torres doing it.
Didn't see anyone demanding a hefty suspension for Sedin when he led with his elbow straight up into Keith's head. Not the same, but very similar hits.
I agree with Teemu. Those players make Millions of Dollars and you think you can straighten them out with 2500$ fines?
I think the Raffi Torres suspension length would be appropriate for first time offenders as well. This would make players think twice about their play.
The fines have to be agreed to in the CBA. Good luck getting the PA to agree to more.
Torres suspension was appropriate for someone with his history. He is now the new Matt Cooke. One more like that and he may get a year.
Unfortunately every play is different and the circumstances and players are too. First time offenders should not get the same as Torres but should not get off easy. I personally find the discrepancy between stars (Weber) and scrubs (Byron Bitz) more disgusting. The league cannot keep discriminating this way.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
Getzlaf and Perry averaged 12:34 and 11:34 TOI respectively their first year in the league, which is 3rd line minutes. Selanne staying on the team isn't blocking them until they stick with the club a full season and Selanne is still here AFTER next year. And Etem has yet to prove anything, -2 with no points in the playoffs. Bonino has been blocking Holland, and rightfully so - he earned it with his play. Next year you could argue that Koivu would be blocking Holland if he moves to the third line, but Koivu right now is pretty ideal for a true third line center.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
how can you call a guy who got 66 pts in his latest year a road block? he had more points this year than perry and getzlaf...
if he comes back, nothing is stopping palmieri, holland or etem, if they are ready to crack the lineup, from playing decent minutes next year. bb has shown he wants to roll 4 lines, not the top heavy 2 lines reliance of the past.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
A roadblock? Hes job is to make effect in the offensive end, and he was leading scorer of ducks last season.. So how in the hell is he roadblock with team high points? There is no free ride for anyone to NHL team just because you are young. Every player must deserve it, and you can be sure Selanne will not get an NHL-deal or wont be in the lineup, when he starts to non-deserve it. He does deserve it.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
Dude are you serious? If I am not mistaken Selanne led our team in points last year...how is that a roadblock? Koivu is one. Or Getzlaf. But Selanne? C'mon man.
Situation with Teemu is interesting next season. Obviously, outside of ''TeMoZ'', for all fans the only possible thing which why they would like Teemu to retire, is because they want to see #8 up on the rafters ASAP. I cant imagine one which would like Teemu to retire because they dislike him or thinks his time is over.
What i found there interesting is - i don`t believe he will win a cup with us next season. But Teemu would be really great to have here anyway, since this will be contract year for Getz/Perry, so with Teemu on lineup probably they`d be more willing to return, and also maybe even get a little bit less in paycheck, since Teemu is the leading man on the roster, not they.
Also having Vatanen in (or close to) Anaheim would benefit from having also Teemu, who is incredible guy.
Selanne is a road block now to the development of this team. When Getzlaf and Perry were ready, they got second line minutes. Palmieri and Holland are ready, Etem to a lesser extent. We need them to get going.
Getzlaf and Perry were far more established at the pro level before getting 2nd line minutes. Getzlaf scored 39 points in 57 games playing a bunch on the 4th line (plus power play) in his rookie year. Holland and Etem has done nothing yet to be given full time duties on the top two lines. Palmieri is the only one you could make a case for, and with a good preseason I'm sure he'll make the top 2 lines. Teemu is not standing in his way.
A comparison between Getzlaf/Perry prior to seeing full time on the top two lines and Palmieri/Holland/Etem up to date.
NHL regular season games:
Getzlaf - 57 games (39 points).
Perry - 56 games (25 points).
Palmieri - 28 games (8 points).
Holland - 4 games (1 point).
Etem - 0 games.
NHL playoff games:
Getzlaf - 16 games (7 points).
Perry - 11 games (3 points).
Palmieri - 1 games (0 points).
Holland - 0 games.
Etem - 0 games.
AHL regular games
Palmieri - 113 games (108 points).
Holland - 74 games (66 points).
Perry - 19 games (34 points).
Getzlaf - 17 games (33 points).
AHL playoff games
Perry - 4 games (3 points).
Palmieri - 4 games (2 points).
Getzlaf - 1 game (0 points).
Holland - 0 games.
Etem - 0 games.
The thing is, Getzlaf and Perry had the size and pretty complete games that even if they didn't become scorers right away, they could make an impact in some other way. Holland and Etem haven't showed anything yet in the NHL, and neither is the 4th line kind... Their top six opportunities will come with injuries and in preseason games, the same way we've seen Palmieri being used the last couple of seasons.
DSP is more comparable to Getzlaf and Perry, he brings grit, energy and some shutdown ability and can work his way up from the bottom six same way they did. Anyways, Palmieri isn't a proven top six NHL'er by any means, but if someone deserves the chance it's him because of his AHL success. Holland and Etem aren't even remotely close until they've made an impression in the preseason.
Dude are you serious? If I am not mistaken Selanne led our team in points last year...how is that a roadblock? Koivu is one. Or Getzlaf. But Selanne? C'mon man.
