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05-31-2012, 08:42 AM
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Ryan has not been the block since last fall. He seemed to indicate in his exit interview with the Ducks that his future in Anaheim was secure. More secure than he felt during the season.

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Alain Vigneault had issues with Hodgson in VAN. Zach Kassian barely played. Mason Raymond is in and out of the doghouse in VAN.
Hodgson was upset with his ice time in Vancouver. They had 2 pretty good centers ahead of him. Kassian was incredibly bad with the Canucks. Raymond is a dud. He's 26, 2 years older than Zherdev when Torts ran him out of town.

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Schultz seems like a no brainer if he is interested. My guess is that he signs in Canada, he's from Canada that's probably where he ends up, with LA and NY being honorable alternatives.

I would guess his list of teams would be:

Toronto
Vancouver
Winnipeg
Montreal
NY
LA

Winnipeg isn't as attractive as other teams. He's from Vancouver and would have a great chance of starting there but with Luongo gone he might not want to go there. Toronto seems like a heavy pursuer but they're far from being cup contenders. They still need a goalie, a few more defensemen, Jay Bowmeester seems more likely for the Maple Leafs. Montreal also seems like a very attractive destination, especially if they're trying to rebuild. Finally the Rangers and Kings come into play. The Kings are a cup ready team now and just lost offensive defenseman Jack Johnson. The Rangers are attractive because they are also a cup ready team now and are in desperate need of a right shot offensive defenseman. I think those teams make the most sense. We'll see how this plays out.

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Schultz seems like a no brainer if he is interested. My guess is that he signs in Canada, he's from Canada that's probably where he ends up, with LA and NY being honorable alternatives.
How often do players sign in a place to be close to home? Rafalski? Smyth? Why did he go to Wisconsin when he could have stayed and played in the WHL and been closer to home?

There's a connection with Gardiner and Burke in Toronto, so that's a reasonable destination. However, they've been stuck in mediocrity for years and have major question marks in their lineup. Haven't made the playoffs in forever. Is a guy you played college hockey with and a GM that drafted you in Anaheim enough of a reason to go to that situation? Vancouver has a boatload of depth on D, and their coach has shown some distrust towards young players. Edmonton isn't exactly a hot destination for people.

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From what I've read online (take it for what it's worth scenario), it's way less then what it would cost for Nash. And he makes less money.

Honestly, not even sure if ANA is shopping him anymore.
id disagree with this..i think Bobby Ryan is MUCH more expensive. hes younger, hes on a better contract, and he doesnt have a NMC.

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If I was a Canadian hockey player that last place in the world I would sign would be my hometown, Montreal, or Toronto

NYC and I would imagine LA are very attractive IMHO. Hockey isn't the #1 sport so having to deal with media scrutiny in the US compared to Canada would be a huge +. NYC and LA are great cities, lots to do and and can pay me.

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The wild card is another free-agent-to-be Justin Schultz, who was drafted by Anaheim but has left U of Wisconsin and likely has no plans to sign with the Ducks. The Oilers and the Rangers are hot to trot to sign him if hes UFA, but the Red Wings are always a lure for free-agents and hes only 22, with tons of offensive ability.
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...hout-lidstrom/

The Wings have a million defensemen under contract. Brendan Smith has played 14 games for the Wings while McD has played 147 NHL games(regular season and playoffs). They both entered and left Wisconsin at the same time. Which team gave their guy a chance to play in the NHL? The Rangers.

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NYC and I would imagine LA are very attractive IMHO. Hockey isn't the #1 sport so having to deal with media scrutiny in the US compared to Canada would be a huge +. NYC and LA are great cities, lots to do and and can pay me.
And this is why so many young, promising players have failed in New York. The amount of temptations to do something else than the relevant itself is pretty high.

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How often do players sign in a place to be close to home? Rafalski? Smyth? Why did he go to Wisconsin when he could have stayed and played in the WHL and been closer to home?

There's a connection with Gardiner and Burke in Toronto, so that's a reasonable destination. However, they've been stuck in mediocrity for years and have major question marks in their lineup. Haven't made the playoffs in forever. Is a guy you played college hockey with and a GM that drafted you in Anaheim enough of a reason to go to that situation? Vancouver has a boatload of depth on D, and their coach has shown some distrust towards young players. Edmonton isn't exactly a hot destination for people.
Didn't list Edmonton. They'll be a hot destination in a few years once they draft a stud goalie and theyre offense becomes ridiculous. Don't think he'll end up there, pretty sure city-wise it is not well regarded.

That being said how often do young players who have grown up rooting for a team get to sign there? He'll be closer to his family and friends.

Being from Canada he would probably prefer to play places there over places in the US. I'm from NY I would consider playing in LA, Chi, Anaheim, Dallas, way before I considered Vanc, Toronto, or Montreal.

I'd love for him to come here just if it was up to him I would feel like he would do his due diligence on Canadian teams way before US teams.

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Could we trade our first round pick for his rights if we wanted to? If this is possible I would without a doubt trade our first for him and do everything to get him locked up. Our biggest competitors for him looks to be Detroit, Edmonton, and Toronto. Well we all know toronto and Edmonton are not giving up their first for him and Detroit doesn't have one.

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Could we trade our first round pick for his rights if we wanted to? If this is possible I would without a doubt trade our first for him and do everything to get him locked up. Our biggest competitors for him looks to be Detroit, Edmonton, and Toronto. Well we all know toronto and Edmonton are not giving up their first for him and Detroit doesn't have one.
No, we'll have no guarantee we will land him. He probably has a specific destination in mind and if its not us then that is too much to risk.

I'd give a 3rd and a prospect tops.

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Could we trade our first round pick for his rights if we wanted to? If this is possible I would without a doubt trade our first for him and do everything to get him locked up. Our biggest competitors for him looks to be Detroit, Edmonton, and Toronto. Well we all know toronto and Edmonton are not giving up their first for him and Detroit doesn't have one.
Dude, you don't trade that much for negotiation rights. Its usually a later round draft pick or low end prospect that the Rangers don't feel too highly on.

Especially for a guy who hasn't played in the NHL yet.

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Dude, you don't trade that much for negotiation rights. Its usually a later round draft pick or low end prospect that the Rangers don't feel too highly on.

Especially for a guy who hasn't played in the NHL yet.
The way I look at it is that we are the second to last pick in the first round. If you value him that highly its like grtting a steal at the bottom of the first. It is taking the same risk they took when they drafted Kreider. There was no guarantee he would sign with the rangers. If you could get the ducks throw in their second round pick which is in the top 10 and not a huge difference, then I don't see the problem.

Realistically how often do the rangers not lock up a player they want? If Nashville can trade a first round pick for at best a third line face off specialist who is headed to free agency, then I just don't see how you cannot consider this. Just my opinion.

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The way I look at it is that we are the second to last pick in the first round. If you value him that highly its like grtting a steal at the bottom of the first. It is taking the same risk they took when they drafted Kreider. There was no guarantee he would sign with the rangers. If you could get the ducks throw in their second round pick which is in the top 10 and not a huge difference, then I don't see the problem.

Realistically how often do the rangers not lock up a player they want? If Nashville can trade a first round pick for at best a third line face off specialist who is headed to free agency, then I just don't see how you cannot consider this. Just my opinion.
Well he was under contract already and they got a very useful player. Schultz is neither under contract nor proven in the NHL. Big difference.

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ESPN suggests Schultz could be intrigued by Detroit now that Lidstrom is retiring and a new crop of D is moving in...

It also makes Detroit an interesting option for Justin Schultz, the talented University of Wisconsin defenseman who still hasn't signed with the Ducks. Chances are he won't, which means he'll hit the market as a free agent who will draw as much interest as anyone this offseason.

The competition for him will be intense, but Schultz may be intrigued by the possibility of being part of the next wave of young defensemen in Detroit. If Holland can put together a defense for next season that includes Suter, Niklas Kronwall, Ian White, Jonathan Ericsson, Jakub Kindl, Smith, Quincey and Schultz, the Wings are in great shape. But unlike when they watched Yzerman step away, there isn't an heir apparent ready to take Lidstrom's mantle as the Red Wings' lead blueliner.

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ESPN suggests Schultz could be intrigued by Detroit now that Lidstrom is retiring and a new crop of D is moving in...

It also makes Detroit an interesting option for Justin Schultz, the talented University of Wisconsin defenseman who still hasn't signed with the Ducks. Chances are he won't, which means he'll hit the market as a free agent who will draw as much interest as anyone this offseason.

The competition for him will be intense, but Schultz may be intrigued by the possibility of being part of the next wave of young defensemen in Detroit. If Holland can put together a defense for next season that includes Suter, Niklas Kronwall, Ian White, Jonathan Ericsson, Jakub Kindl, Smith, Quincey and Schultz, the Wings are in great shape. But unlike when they watched Yzerman step away, there isn't an heir apparent ready to take Lidstrom's mantle as the Red Wings' lead blueliner.
The last source I would ever take in terms of hockey coverage is ESPN.

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I'd be more intrigued about playing with Lidstrom than be intrigued about being his replacement

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id disagree with this..i think Bobby Ryan is MUCH more expensive. hes younger, hes on a better contract, and he doesnt have a NMC.
Again, just from what I've read online. I saw somewhere that Anisimov was the focal player going back to ANA.

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The way I look at it is that we are the second to last pick in the first round. If you value him that highly its like grtting a steal at the bottom of the first. It is taking the same risk they took when they drafted Kreider. There was no guarantee he would sign with the rangers. If you could get the ducks throw in their second round pick which is in the top 10 and not a huge difference, then I don't see the problem.

Realistically how often do the rangers not lock up a player they want? If Nashville can trade a first round pick for at best a third line face off specialist who is headed to free agency, then I just don't see how you cannot consider this. Just my opinion.
In a situation like this, Blake Wheeler comes to mind. I think he considered the Rangers but chose the Bruins. Now he's up in Winnipeg.

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Sure, Detroit could be an intriguing option for Schultz. Of course, that's assuming he wants to spend a ton of time in the minors while they play their existing group ahead of him.

Detroit is a great franchise, but it's not exactly known for ushering young players into the lineup right away.

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Ryan has not been the block since last fall. He seemed to indicate in his exit interview with the Ducks that his future in Anaheim was secure. More secure than he felt during the season.
This is correct. To further add to what RangerBoy said, about a month before the season's end, Ryan mentioned in an interview that he's looking forward to anchoring the future second line. From that point on, Ryan spent the rest of the season playing with Palmieri, Smith-Pelly, and Bonino; and Boudreau started putting that line - technically the third line - out in situations that were previously reserved for Selanne's line.

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This is correct. To further add to what RangerBoy said, about a month before the season's end, Ryan mentioned in an interview that he's looking forward to anchoring the future second line. From that point on, Ryan spent the rest of the season playing with Palmieri, Smith-Pelly, and Bonino; and Boudreau started putting that line - technically the third line - out in situations that were previously reserved for Selanne's line.
He played with 3 guys on one line?

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He played with 3 guys on one line?
Ryan has been accused of being invisible at times.

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#20. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin.../lidstrom.html

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Justin Schultz has a lot of options, but do not discount the Rangers. They will make a push, and he's got two former teammates there (Ryan McDonagh, Derek Stepan). New York is not shy about inserting young collegians into important roles. See Kreider, Chris.

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