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03-19-2012, 10:13 AM
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Sens/Leafs scheduling conspiracy?

All Sens fans are aware that the atmosphere at Sens/Leafs games isn't much fun for Sens fans who have to put up with obnoxious Leafs fans and our team getting its ass kicked on a lot of nights.

Although we have a better team and should win, often we don't. One of the reasons that everyone is pointing to for this is the fact that the Sens, for every Leafs game this year, have to play a back to back, sometimes a third in 4 nights. This is shrugged off by the media as a scheduling anomaly.

It made me think back to last year when I remember the same sort of thing. So, I looked up last years schedule - http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=532260 . Guess what??????!!!!!!

Last year the Sens had to play 5 of their 6 games against the Leafs on a back to back. So in two years of the 12 games against the Leafs, we play back to back for 11 of them.

It doesn't take a statistics major to determine that this is not a random event.

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03-19-2012, 10:17 AM
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03-19-2012, 10:18 AM
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I think we beat this one to death back in Oct.

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03-19-2012, 10:22 AM
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I counted 4 games last season, 6 games this season.

Our record this year is 3-3

Last year it was 2-2

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03-19-2012, 10:27 AM
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You're making our fanbase look like a bunch of whiny babies.

Get over it - the season series is over, we're going to the playoffs, they aren't, Karlsson is great, etc etc etc

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03-19-2012, 10:42 AM
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Not a 'conspiracy', NHL is a business, it gives preferential treatment to certain teams, Ottawa's not one of them.

& yes 6 back to back games this year is ridiculous, Ottawa has looked gassed in at least four of them. & Toronto puts in an effort like it's game 7 of the SCF.

I laugh @ how leafs fans compare the two teams, referencing the season series.

I'd love to see the schedule reversed next year & have the Sens hand them their ***** 6 times.

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03-19-2012, 10:47 AM
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Toronto traditionally plays on a Saturday night, so they get prioritized for Saturday games. Furthermore, the ACC is host to another team, the Raptors, for whom the NHL must schedule with/around. That means we get bumped down the priority list for scheduling.

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03-19-2012, 10:49 AM
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Teams also make trade offs. For this shafting, the Sens should be getting a quid pro quo on some other requests.

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Barring some kind of exogenous factor that results in this regular occurrence (i.e. scheduling for other events at SBP always following a particular pattern) this shouldn't be acceptable. I understand that it can't always work out evenly, but 11 out of 12 games? That's insane.

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I haven't checked the schedules but.....

I believe the Sens asked for Friday games and CBC (read the Leafs network) want Saturdays. So with TSN wanting Wednesday games that may exacerbate the problem especially if the Leafs avoid Friday games on purpose to minimize back to back on weekends.

Did you check to see how many of those back to back are caused by playing a Friday compared with the Leafs who tend to play almost every Saturday?


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03-19-2012, 11:19 AM
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I think its actually 4 games last year.

So that means that in 2 years the Senators played the Leafs in the 2nd of back to back games 10 times out of 12.

There are going to be back to backs but that is just too much for coincidence as in each case it is the 2nd game in all 10 cases, never the first game of the back to back when the Sens play the Leafs.

I dont think it makes the Sens fans look like whiney babies to mention this , I think it makes them like like patsies to take this without evendaring to metion it.

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03-19-2012, 11:22 AM
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Seriously, this is just whining for whining's sake...Ottawa is most likely going to the playoffs and has a sweet future shaping up. Toronto most likely will assume the distinction of longest drought without making the postseason and not much hope in sight either. Sour grapes over something really insignificant

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03-19-2012, 11:30 AM
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This years series is done. But this should not happen next year.

There are a couple of datesthis year when the Sens meet the Leafs not on Saturday
but still played the night before. There are lots of occassions where they play
another team on Saturday but dont play the Friday before.

It is the league catering to a big market team that they are hoping will make it back into the playoffs this year and serving up a small market team that was suppsed to be a bottom feeder.

Maybe they over played their hand this year and now people have taken notice.

Going forweard this should not be permitted. Back to backs yes, but not the second in back to backs in every single meeting of the season

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03-19-2012, 11:30 AM
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Toronto has a hockey team now? How are they doing?

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Toronto has a hockey team now? How are they doing?
AHL squad. Not that great.

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Any team has X number of back to backs, you argue it's better to have them against the Leafs instead of the Bruins. The season series is 3-3, which is good for back to back games, and included some lucky snit in the last game. Could be worse if you played a top tier team for some of those. It just sucks more when the Sens lose to the Leafs.

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It's all about parity. League was just evening the odds for the Leafs.

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03-19-2012, 12:56 PM
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It's all about parity. League was just evening the odds for the Leafs.
Haha, love it. So that's how handicapping works in the NHL!

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03-19-2012, 01:20 PM
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meh, there's a million of other factors that go into making a schedule (arena availability, tv commitments, travel, etc.). either way, i'm sure NHL players have gotten used to playing on back-to-back nights by now. i mean, the majority of them played in the CHL where 2-3 games over the weekend is the norm. yeah, i know, it's not the NHL, but traveling via greyhound isn't exactly first class. if it makes you feel any better, the leafs aren't/haven't making/made the playoffs with this so-called schedule advantage.

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03-19-2012, 01:22 PM
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Honestly, some of you think the Sens would go 82-0 and sweep all four playoff series if it weren't for the alleged conspiracies and biases from the league, the refs, and the networks.

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Heck I don't really give a crap. Its highly unlikely leafs will make the playoffs, so that win probably just helps ruin their tank job.

People need to quit complaining and be really happy for the sens to be where they are! It's fun to watch. Although annoying when they lose to the leafs.

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03-19-2012, 01:45 PM
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03-19-2012, 03:31 PM
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Truly absurd. Not sure how the NHL can be okay with this, no team should have to be at that large of a disadvantage, especially two seasons in a row. You got to wonder just how much of a difference it would have made to the season series if even half those games were under better circumstances for the Sens.

Murray and Melnyk should not be happy with that. Something that should definitely be brought to the attention of Bettman and co so that it doesn't happen next year for a third straight time.

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Don't really care.

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