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03-19-2012, 04:18 PM
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Tedenby's offense is in question when he can't score more than 3 goals in 20 AHL games.
Have you seen these games or just judging by stat sheets? yeah...

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Have you seen these games or just judging by stat sheets? yeah...
3 goals in 23 AHL games

Tim Sesito has more of a scoring touch...

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03-19-2012, 04:23 PM
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Tedenby needs more time to develop. There's no reason to trade him. The market for undersized defensive liabilities who can't score isn't that strong.

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I hope Sykora is back next year. He's been great for $650k grand.

Yeah he sucks some nights, but compare his salary to Boulton, or Janssen which isn't much higher, and then try to laugh.
I don't think salary-to-output is the right analysis. Ice-time to output should be the right indicator. As a second line winger, simply sniping every 10 games seems like bad value. He started well, but he really has looked ineffective to me since the All-Star Break.

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03-19-2012, 04:26 PM
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3 goals in 23 AHL games

Tim Sesito has more of a scoring touch...
Except Teddy is currently 4th on the A-Devs in points per game (with Veilleux in Minnesota and Tao/Yayo in NJ).

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03-19-2012, 04:33 PM
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Let him develop in Albany next year. He needs a full season of top six hockey under his belt.

His first two pro seasons were spent either struggling to get in the lineup or devoid of line mates that complement his game.

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03-19-2012, 04:37 PM
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3 goals in 23 AHL games

Tim Sesito has more of a scoring touch...
You answered my question perfectly.

I guess we should be worried about Josefson since he doesn't have any goals this season.

Go to 1:50

No scoring touch, brah.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was told to focus on this defensive game while in Albany. He is +3 in Albany so far.

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03-19-2012, 04:52 PM
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We shouldn't forget his campaign last season with us. He wasn't bad at all. To me, this seems like a sophomore slump to a (rather large) degree. He needs some seasoning but I think that he's going to be a nice top 9 maybe even 6 winger for us in the future.

Or traded. Like others said, I wouldn't trade one of our most on-paper offensively talented players in just their second year in the pros. Way too early to call him a "bust". They spent four years sitting on someone like Bergfors who's out of the NHL. I wouldn't mind them taking their time with Tedenby.

Him being in the A is the best thing for him right now, regardless of the amount of points he puts up (which isn't too bad, imo).

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03-19-2012, 04:58 PM
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I'd keep Tedenby around in order to replace Zach when we sign Suter

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03-19-2012, 05:13 PM
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Keep him in the A next season and see how he does with spot work in the NHL. By the 2013-14 season he should be good, hopefully. If not, he might have increased value and we can use him as a trading chip sometime before the deadline next season.

NotCarlson - Deal with it.

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03-19-2012, 05:23 PM
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Tedenby's offense is in question when he can't score more than 3 goals in 20 AHL games.
basing anything off of AHL stats is truly moronic.

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03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
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basing anything off of AHL stats is truly moronic.
i wouldn't say totally moronic but giving up on a undersized 22 yr old with a unique skill set is moronic i agree

if the kid can put 10-15 pounds of meat on and find his groove he can certainly become a servicable nhl forward. and in case nobody has noticed the organization is not flush with offensive studs so i wouldn't be giving up on anyone that plays forward in this organization

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03-19-2012, 06:02 PM
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I don't think salary-to-output is the right analysis. Ice-time to output should be the right indicator. As a second line winger, simply sniping every 10 games seems like bad value. He started well, but he really has looked ineffective to me since the All-Star Break.
Remember Rolston. I don't hate Rolston, and I hate to give him a hard time, and bash him but $5 million with his stats, and $650k with Sykora.

Now if Janssen, or Boulton saw Sykora's minutes they wouldn't register nearly any of the points or score goals.

Now they would probably give up more goals than Sykora scores.

$650k would have bought us another same old 4th line guy, or maybe Sergei Brylin. Brylin wanted a try out, but they never gave him one. Sykora to me is better to have than Brylin right now.

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Remember Rolston. I don't hate Rolston, and I hate to give him a hard time, and bash him but $5 million with his stats, and $650k with Sykora.

Now if Janssen, or Boulton saw Sykora's minutes they wouldn't register nearly any of the points or score goals.

Now they would probably give up more goals than Sykora scores.

$650k would have bought us another same old 4th line guy, or maybe Sergei Brylin. Brylin wanted a try out, but they never gave him one. Sykora to me is better to have than Brylin right now.
I hear you and I don't disagree with your value/output argument. It's go time for a Devils win!

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03-19-2012, 06:29 PM
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Brylin wanted a tryout? When?

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basing anything off of AHL stats is truly moronic.
no it's not. if he's not producing in the ahl, it is highly unlikely he would produce is the nhl.

but it's wayyyy to early to judge him now. let him get another year in the a under his belt and he'll be much much better.

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no it's not. if he's not producing in the ahl, it is highly unlikely he would produce is the nhl.
that is not true in the slightest.

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that is not true in the slightest.
explain your reasoning then. obviously this is not true for every single player but looking at ahl stats is a good way to gauge future success at higher levels.

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explain your reasoning then. obviously this is not true for every single player but looking at ahl stats is a good way to gauge future success at higher levels.
but, its not.

plenty of players never produce in the AHL and then have fine NHL careers, or vice versa.

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03-19-2012, 08:50 PM
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At some point, the guy needs to learn how to finish and score some goals. During his very long audition in New Jersey, he flashed some impressive mobility, pick handling skills, and occasionally good decision making. But he never really put it all together to become a really useful player.

He's still got time to get there, but I'm worried too.

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03-19-2012, 09:34 PM
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willingness to go to tough areas to score

willingness to go to tough areas to score despite his size ...

if he isn't willing to do it he will never contribute enough to be on a Stanley Cup winning team in the NHL these days

if he isn't willing to get beat up then I don't want him in NJ

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He had no confidence in his shot by the end of his most recent stint in NJ. Passing up open lanes for a pass to a covered player. For a kid who needs to live and die by his offensive game, that can't happen.

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He's a little guy used to lots of space and the NHL is a radical change for him. His start to his rookie year was great. He just needs to play in the A as a top line guy in order to learn how to play the big man's game. This is an important year coming up for him, but I'm not worried yet.

You look at a guy like Clarkson who was counted out last year, and realize with developing guys you have to look past what a guy has done and try to look into the future and see what he's going to do.

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willingness to go to tough areas to score despite his size ...

if he isn't willing to do it he will never contribute enough to be on a Stanley Cup winning team in the NHL these days

if he isn't willing to get beat up then I don't want him in NJ
I think his one-on-one drives against massive defensemen say that he is willing to get beat up. He also plays a sneaky game around the boards.

Think back to that 4th line he was on... Teddy, Boulton, and Janssen. He had to make everything happen on his own, and he showed admirable effort and every night he had at least one play that made you go "awwww so close."

The drive is there, the balance, and a finisher's shot isn't.

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Seems like Tedenby is taking the the NHL Devils' advice when it comes to shooting in the AHL, less is better

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