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CSB Rankings - Re:WHL Players

Skaters
1 Brule, Gilbert Vancouver 1-Jan-1987 5-10 177 C R
2 Setoguchi, Devin Saskatoon 1-Jan-1987 6-0 185 RW R
3 Jones, Blair Red Deer 27-Sep-1986 6-2 195 C R
4 Mikkelson, Brendan Portland 22-Jun-1987 6-2 177 D L
5 Durand, Chris Seattle 21-Jan-1987 6-1 192 C R
6 Sauer, Michael Portland 7-Aug-1987 6-2 198 D L
7 Flatters, John Red Deer 17-Jun-1987 6-1 203 D L
8 Stamler, Bretton Seattle 10-Mar-1987 6-1 201 D R
9 Zimmerman, Sean Spokane 24-May-1987 6-1.5 220 D R
10 May, Jeff Prince Albert 4-Apr-1987 6-1.5 186 D L
11 Drazenovic, Nicholas Prince George 14-Jan-1987 6-0.5 178 C L
12 Mcardle, Kenndal Moose Jaw 4-Jan-1987 5-11 201 LW L
13 Rabbit, Wacey Saskatoon 11-Nov-1986 5-10 175 C L
14 Kurceba, Paul Red Deer 19-Feb-1987 6-1.5 178 D R
15 Kohn, Dustin Calgary 2-Feb-1987 6-0.5 185 D L
16 Macias, Raymond Kamloops 18-Sep-1986 6-1 190 D R
17 Jackson, Scott Seattle 5-Feb-1987 6-3.5 206 D L
18 Gauthier, Mike Prince Albert 26-Mar-1987 6-3 185 D R
19 Merkley, Riley Calgary 25-Apr-1987 6-2.5 175 C R
20 Franson, Cody Vancouver 8-Aug-1987 6-4.5 205 D R
21 Kassian, Matt Vancouver 28-Oct-1986 6-3.5 232 RW L
22 Louis, Mark Brandon 18-Apr-1987 6-3 197 D R
23 Flatt, Dalyn Saskatoon 7-Oct-1986 6-3 215 D L
24 Reinhart, Derek Regina 20-Apr-1987 6-3 205 D R
25 Dupont, Brodie Calgary 17-Feb-1987 6-1 192 C L

Goaltenders
1 Price, Carey Tri-City 16-Aug-1987 6-2.5 212 G L
2 Dakers, Taylor Kootenay 14-Sep-1986 6-1 165 G L
3 Cyr, Real Prince George 20-May-1987 5-11 175 G L
4 Plante, Tyler Brandon 16-May-1987 6-2.5 191 G L
5 Slade, Dustin Regina 28-Feb-1986 5-9.5 167 G L

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Good for Drazenovic. He's been playing very well for the Cougars from what I have seen this season. If he keeps it up, his ranking should rise by the end of the season.

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Team-by-team

Brandon
22. Mark Louis (D)
4G. Tyler Plante (G)

Calgary
15. Dustin Kohn (D)
19. Riley Merkley (C)
25. Brodie Dupont (C)

Everett
NONE

Kamloops
16. Raymond Macias (D)

Kelowna
NONE

Kootenay
2G. Taylor Dakers (G)

Lethbridge
NONE

Medicine Hat
NONE

Moose Jaw
12. Kenndal McArdle (LW)

Portland
4. Brendan Mikkelson (D)
6. Michael Sauer (D)

Prince Albert
10. Jeff May (D)
18. Mike Gauthier (D)

Prince George
11. Nicholas Drazenovic (C)
3G. Real Cyr (G)

Red Deer
3. Blair Jones (C)
7. John Flatters (D)
14. Paul Kurceba (D)

Regina
24. Derek Reinhart (D)
5G. Dustin Slade (G)

Saskatoon
2. Devin Setoguchi (RW)
13. Wacey Rabbit (C)
23. Dalyn Flatt (D)

Seattle
5. Chris Durand (C)
8. Bretton Stamler (D)
17. Scott Jackson (D)

Spokane
9. Sean Zimmerman (D)

Swift Current
NONE

Tri-City
1G. Carey Price (G)

Vancouver
1. Gilbert Brule (C)
20. Cody Franson (D)
21. Matt Kassian (RW)

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MATT KASSIAN FROM THE GIANTS OVER TIM KRAUS????

Do these scouts get paid??

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Kassian is a beast.

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Kassian is huge, he skates well, he's a good fighter and he hits. Kraus is lazy, inconsistant, weak, has no physical element to his game and isn't that skilled - his points are a result of playing with Brule. Neither of them should be on there if you ask me, but until Kraus learns to play hard every night and puts on a lot of muscle, Kassian has better NHL potential. Kassian's game is transferable to the NHL, Kraus' right now is not.

I love that they put Franson on there, though.

JD Watt and especially Shaun Vey could easily be on there by midseason, both have played well with no production to show for it. Once they start picking up points people will notice them more.

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Kassian is huge, he skates well, he's a good fighter and he hits.

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What is so funny about that? For a big guy he definitely does. He isn't the fastest out there, but he never stops hustling. Plus like someone mentioned before, he is a good hitter, and a great scrapper. No surprise he is also a favorite of Hay's...

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Skating is more than straight line speed. He's big and he has a very long stride, so he he looks slow, but he gets where he wants to go and he keeps his feet moving. For a 6'4 monster his quickness and lateral movement are good, and his acceleration isn't bad. Most importantly, his skating doesn't impede him from making hits or forechecking; he's a good enough skater so that he's not easy to beat and he can make hits.

Also, in further comparison to Kraus, Kassian is good for what he is in all three zones while Kraus is useless in the neutral and defensive zone, and only okay in the offensive zone. Kassian could be a 4th line energy player who gets in on the forecheck, hits, and fights. What can Kraus do in the NHL?

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Point count:

Kraus 16
Kassian 0

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Kraus plays on the first line with arguably the most talented player in the WHL. As mentioned above, he's small, weak and his game won't transfer to the NHL as well as Kassian will, even though Kassian doesn't deserve to be on the list, Kraus sure as heck doesn't.

But hey, while we're comparing guys, Kevin Hayman has two points this season, why isn't he on the list? Nobody took him last year, maybe someone will this year, because after all, he's outscored Matt Kassian thus far.

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Kraus plays on the first line with arguably the most talented player in the WHL. As mentioned above, he's small, weak and his game won't transfer to the NHL as well as Kassian will, even though Kassian doesn't deserve to be on the list, Kraus sure as heck doesn't.

But hey, while we're comparing guys, Kevin Hayman has two points this season, why isn't he on the list? Nobody took him last year, maybe someone will this year, because after all, he's outscored Matt Kassian thus far.
Hayman is tiny.

Kraus small? 6'0 185 at 17 isn't small Kirk...

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He may not be small in terms of his height/weight statistics, but he plays small. He is very weak along the boards and shows no physical edge on the ice. He will be manhandled if he ever makes the jump past the WHL.

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Kraus 16
Kassian 0
Kirk already made a few good points. I'll add a few more here. Kassian doesn't have as many shifts as Kraus does, plus he plays a majority of his minutes on the PK. Therefore his potential of putting up any points is very limited. Plus, that isn't a part of his game. Playing physical is, and he does it very well. He is also proving to be a top heavyweight in the WHL...

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Kirk already made a few good points. I'll add a few more here. Kassian doesn't have as many shifts as Kraus does, plus he plays a majority of his minutes on the PK. Therefore his potential of putting up any points is very limited. Plus, that isn't a part of his game. Playing physical is, and he does it very well. He is also proving to be a top heavyweight in the WHL...
Exactly, he's a goon and nothing more. He's important to the Giants though, they need size and toughness.

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Exactly, he's a goon and nothing more. He's important to the Giants though, they need size and toughness.
He isn't a 'goon'. That is a terrible term to begin with. He is a very good checker, a decent skater, a guy that is good on the PK, and an honest player that comes to the defense of teammates. He doesn't usually go out looking for a fight, he just answers the bell when the opportunity comes.

The only guy on the Giants that will actually go and look for a scrap consistantly is Grant. But even at that, since he has become the captain of the team, he hasn't done that as much lately.

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