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Game #73: vs Phoenix, 3/20 (7:00 PM, NBC Sports Network, 1310 AM, 104.1 FM)

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03-20-2012, 10:09 PM
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It's a little bit like the uncomfortable Chris Clark situation in Washington. They had him play on the 4th line for a while and eventually just had to ship him out.

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03-20-2012, 10:09 PM
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i dont know... vincour has an uncanny knack for shooting into the goalies chest

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03-20-2012, 10:10 PM
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He certainly didnt look ok to me. But lets not speculate too much about that. I bet there are several players who will be doubtful for Thursday after this one.

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03-20-2012, 10:11 PM
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I don't think many people (that watch) would care if we shipped him out. Most would welcome it, I would

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i dont know... vincour has an uncanny knack for shooting into the goalies chest
He generates chances. Even if he can't bury them yet (or ever), he's in position, he shoots, he goes North-South, etc.

Want to guess how many shots Morrow had tonight with 16 minutes of ToI? How many Wandell had with 7 minutes of ToI? Part of that is this strategy Gulutzan is using of giving Benn's line only defensive zone shifts because he can't trust Riberio's line in the defensive zone. So Morrow gets used a checking line defensive play when he is too slow to do ****. If Gulutzan wants to use our 2nd line for defensive draws, he needs to get Morrow off it.

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Only positive is that Phoenix getting the loser point just makes a steeper hill for san Jose. Oh how I want San Jose to miss the playoffs.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I'll eat the **** out of some crow if Phoenix wins the division, but I think this is actually the best case scenario. Phoenix is a much less dangerous playoff team than LA or SJ (yes, mostly because of Tippett)

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03-20-2012, 10:12 PM
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He generates chances. Even if he can't bury them yet (or ever), he's in position, he shoots, he goes North-South, etc.

Want to guess how many shots Morrow had tonight with 16 minutes of ToI? How many Wandell had with 7 minutes of ToI?
0? i would rather have vincour there but im just not sure how much of an upgrade it would be... i do believe he at least deserves the oppurtunity

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03-20-2012, 10:17 PM
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i would rather have vincour there but im just not sure how much of an upgrade it would be... i do believe he at least deserves the oppurtunity
Right, in an ideal world we'd have better top 6 wingers than Vincour to replace Morrow. But we don't, and he's sure as hell done more to deserve the ice time.

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03-20-2012, 10:18 PM
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Vincour is such a better option in the top 6 than him. Its ridiculous the amount of ice time he gets despite playing like utter **** all year. Any other team and coach would have moved him down a few lines a few times over the year. But nope, our rookie who actually can generate scoring chances has to get sent to the 4th line to fit him back, then ultimately scratched in order to fit in more toughness in the bottom 6.

You know what would fit more toughness in the bottom 6 for division games? Morrow. And Vincour actually has some skill to play in the top 6, unlike Morrow now. The status quo of this organization's handling of the captain is just disgusting.
I just don't get the Vincour hard-on all over the web...

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03-20-2012, 10:19 PM
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I just don't get the Vincour hard-on all over the web...
he moves pucks towards the net and is decent at the possesion game

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03-20-2012, 10:20 PM
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I just don't get the Vincour hard-on all over the web...
I'd be OK with Wandell too. All I'm saying it I think both of them have more skill and would produce more in a top 6 role than Morrow. And Vincour I think should be given an opportunity to see if he can play in a goal scoring role while he's still young.

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03-20-2012, 10:21 PM
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I just don't get the Vincour hard-on all over the web...
He's big, he hits, he forechecks hard, he hustles, he gets to the soft spots of the ice, he crashes the net and has a hard shot. Only thing he's missing is accuracy.

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03-20-2012, 10:24 PM
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To me anyone like Vincour or Wandell or hell even Garbutt can bring more game Morrow doesn't. When i hear him speak it sounds dull and careless all the time. Its ridiculous to listen to and he shows no emotion or passion in his game. Compare the way this team performed before he came back and compare how they performed after he came back. Yes we won 2 games with him but they were low scoring.

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03-20-2012, 10:25 PM
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he moves pucks towards the net and is decent at the possesion game
And terrible at the putting the puck in the net game... He has no business in the top 6 and has pretty much shown that with every chance he's gotten at it...

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03-20-2012, 10:26 PM
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Would not be surprised if Benn doesn't play the rest of the regular season. This would be his 2nd concussion in a year and a half.

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03-20-2012, 10:30 PM
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And terrible at the putting the puck in the net game... He has no business in the top 6 and has pretty much shown that with every chance he's gotten at it...
Like the Goal and Assist game he had playing on Benn's wing? Or the two goal game streak he had in Edmonton and SJ?

How many Goals has Morrow scored this year?

Wandell had 4 SoG in 7 min ToI. Morrow had 0 in 16 and PP time. Vincour shoots and gets opportunities. Morrow does not.

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03-20-2012, 10:32 PM
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And terrible at the putting the puck in the net game... He has no business in the top 6 and has pretty much shown that with every chance he's gotten at it...
yeah but he has been playing better than morrow (imo) and atleast deserves a chance... it is probably too late in the season at this point

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03-20-2012, 10:36 PM
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Gulutzan:

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Gulutzan: "We shot ourselves in the foot tonight. We couldn't get through our heads that turnovers are dangerous. Kari got us the 2 pts."
He needs to start holding players accountable. He looked as pissed as I've ever seen Gulutzan after the shortie. Souray can not be allowed to make that move on the PK, etc.

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03-20-2012, 10:39 PM
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Whew. Mark says Benn is fine and Fistric just has a pulled muscle.

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03-20-2012, 10:48 PM
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Gonna wait out on Benn. I know some guys who seem fine right after, but end up in the hospital with a concussion two days later.

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03-20-2012, 11:01 PM
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Gonna wait out on Benn. I know some guys who seem fine right after, but end up in the hospital with a concussion two days later.
That actually happened to my buddy. He's a racecar driver and he got in a wreck. He felt fine right after, but the next day, he fainted and luckily his neighbor found out and called 911. It turned out he had a concussion.

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03-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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I had class then lunch so I missed listening to the last 10 minutes of the 3rd period and everything after. The positive is we got one more point than Phoenix did. The bad is, well, **** they were up by two goals going into the 3rd. In these types of important games you have to close out your competition. You just have to.

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03-20-2012, 11:08 PM
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He needs to start holding players accountable. He looked as pissed as I've ever seen Gulutzan after the shortie. Souray can not be allowed to make that move on the PK, etc.
If Loui doesn't get tripped to allow the rush or the ref would have called it, the shorty never happens.

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03-20-2012, 11:14 PM
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Doan sucks. He really really sucks.

That's all I have to say about the game right now. Had to pick up the two points and they did. Pathetic by the Coyotes trying to target Benn to end his season/get him out of the game.

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Phoenix will be out of the race by the end of the night. They're currently in 8th with Avs' win, no matter who wins between SJS and LAK, Phoenix will wind up in 9th.

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