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03-16-2012, 10:22 AM
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to PHX: Michael Grabner

to NYI: David Rundblad, Mid-Late Round Pick

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I wouldn't have traded Turris for Grabner so I wouldn't trade Rundblad for him, let alone add a pick.

The 30 goal season last year was a mirage.

Rundblad will quite possibly outscore Grabner in the future.

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03-16-2012, 10:52 AM
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No thanks. Im eager to see what Rundblad turns into and I have ZERO problem being extremely patient in waiting to find out.

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I wouldn't have traded Turris for Grabner so I wouldn't trade Rundblad for him, let alone add a pick.

The 30 goal season last year was a mirage.

Rundblad will quite possibly outscore Grabner in the future.
Any other info I should be aware of?

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Just not sold on Grabner's game. IMO he is comparable to a Mason Raymond. He pulled off one really good goal scoring season but on a year to year player is NOT that player.

If Grabner was such a bonafide goal scorer then why are Isles fans so quick to try and trade him?

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03-16-2012, 11:37 AM
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Just not sold on Grabner's game. IMO he is comparable to a Mason Raymond. He pulled off one really good goal scoring season but on a year to year player is NOT that player.

If Grabner was such a bonafide goal scorer then why are Isles fans so quick to try and trade him?
One of very few actual assets the Islanders have, who isn't named Tavares or Hamonic.

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One of very few actual assets the Islanders have, who isn't named Tavares or Hamonic.
This we need defense. And im not so sure I would trade Grabs for Rundblad.


We need Defensive D not offensive PMD...we have a few PMD in our system. None with potential that Rundblad has, but we have them none the less. deHann could turn into Mark Streit and I think isles fans would be fine with that..

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Just not sold on Grabner's game. IMO he is comparable to a Mason Raymond. He pulled off one really good goal scoring season but on a year to year player is NOT that player.

If Grabner was such a bonafide goal scorer then why are Isles fans so quick to try and trade him?
I disagree with you, Grabner has potential to be a 50 point player on a regular basis. The biggest reason Grabner is playing poorly this year is because of the Islanders lack of transition game. Grabner's goals will always predominately come from breaking out of the zone, however Capuano doesn't know how to coach a defense at all, and we have NO transition game. Grabner is also slumping this year, but he hasn't been as bad as his stats suggest.

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Bailey for Morris?

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Bailey for Morris?
Morris is absolutely terrible, maybe a 3rd rounder

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I disagree with you, Grabner has potential to be a 50 point player on a regular basis. The biggest reason Grabner is playing poorly this year is because of the Islanders lack of transition game. Grabner's goals will always predominately come from breaking out of the zone, however Capuano doesn't know how to coach a defense at all, and we have NO transition game. Grabner is also slumping this year, but he hasn't been as bad as his stats suggest.
Rundblad has 50 point potential as well. Maloney considers him to be another Sergei Zubov. He has elite vision and puck handling skills. Once he refines his overall defensive game he'll be a mainstay in Phoenix's top 4. Incredibly skilled player.

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Rundblad has 50 point potential as well. Maloney considers him to be another Sergei Zubov. He has elite vision and puck handling skills. Once he refines his overall defensive game he'll be a mainstay in Phoenix's top 4. Incredibly skilled player.
Gormley appears to be an incredibly intelligent, poised, defensively sound player. Could make a great partner for Rundblad some day.

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Gormley appears to be an incredibly intelligent, poised, defensively sound player. Could make a great partner for Rundblad some day.
It's an embarrassment of riches on the blueline in Phoenix that's for sure. And this is the year of the D man in the draft and we're ignoring Connor Murphy who's looking very good in Sarnia these days. That's without bringing up the two rookies in Summers and Stone who have factored themselves into roster spots for next year. Goncharov also rated in THN's top 75 prospects as well.

Embarrassment of riches.

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the islanders have enough offensive defensemen coming up, they dont need rundblad. they need big-or at least-physical defensemen. hitters, crease clearers, punishers........

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If Grabner was such a bonafide goal scorer then why are Isles fans so quick to try and trade him?
Because fans are generally fickle, myopic and dumb?

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Rundblad has 50 point potential as well. Maloney considers him to be another Sergei Zubov. He has elite vision and puck handling skills. Once he refines his overall defensive game he'll be a mainstay in Phoenix's top 4. Incredibly skilled player.
I agree with you, it would not be a fair trade for the Coyotes. I was just stating that ducky was undervaluing Grabner.

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Because fans are generally fickle, myopic and dumb?
Interesting, I guess I'm fickle, myopic and dumb.

Apparently any player someone offers up in a proposal must suck, otherwise there would be no reason for that team to trade him. Especially not the Isles' gaping hole on defense combined with their complete inability to sign quality UFAs... those are definitely not reasons.

Honestly man, I'm cool with your negativity, but I would just like to see you post an idea or an original thought of your own for once instead of just ******** on everyone else's.

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Interesting, I guess I'm fickle, myopic and dumb.
I said generally, and was directing it towards the blanket statement, not you specifically. Keep postin' those proposals, man. I like that you have them throwing in a pick.

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...and whose roster spot will Grabner take? Boedker? Doan? Vrbata?
...and only 15 hits for the season? Doesn't make any sense for the Coyotes.

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...and whose roster spot will Grabner take? Boedker? Doan? Vrbata?
...and only 15 hits for the season? Doesn't make any sense for the Coyotes.
The deal makes no sense for Pheonix.

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I would agree with most, that Grabner/Rndblad doesnt make sense for PHO.

I dont see him fit too well under Tippett's system

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