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03-20-2012, 08:35 PM
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Will Brian McGrattan ever get another game as a Predator?

At least to rest guys up towards the end of the season, since he won't play in the playoffs. There's a few fight match-ups too. This instantly becomes a tough team when he's in the line-up because he's the heavyweight champion this year, no question.

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Im not sure he will play another game. Yip and Tootoo and now Gaustad have been known to tussle in the past and McGrattan looks as if the clubs skillset has passed him.

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At least to rest guys up towards the end of the season, since he won't play in the playoffs. There's a few fight match-ups too. This instantly becomes a tough team when he's in the line-up because he's the heavyweight champion this year, no question.
Probably not. There aren't many matchups left where the old school goon fights are likely and we just have too many other guys on the roster who bring more of an all around game to the 4th line. We're already looking at rotating Smith, Bourque,Yip, Halischuk, and Wilson as healthy scratches once everyone is healthy.

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Knowing Trotz, McGrattan will be in the lineup game 1 of the playoffs to bring a "veteran presence"

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You guys can't even see 1 game to rest someone?

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You guys can't even see 1 game to rest someone?
With Radulov coming back, there are so many guys being scratched right now that would get playing time ahead of McGrattan.

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With Radulov coming back, there are so many guys being scratched right now that would get playing time ahead of McGrattan.
But they can play in the playoffs

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You guys can't even see 1 game to rest someone?
We have Gaustad and Wilson to work back in. Maclellan probably doesn't sniff the ice outside of practice. Radulov should be in Nashville later tonight or tomorrow. There are simply better options that bring more to the game than pugilistic ability that already need the big shuffle in and out.

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Not this year, I could see him being re-signed though.

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Not this year, I could see him being re-signed though.
Hopefully, he's a fan favourite.

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Hopefully, he's a fan favourite.
He's a one dimensional player who has been passed up as a viable option by nearly half a dozen guys. Maybe he sticks around as a vet presence, but, a pugilist who brings nothing else is an anachronism.

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I'mjust happy this team gave him a shot, he was really intimidating in his 30 games and didn't hurt the team. Even if he's not back, good thing Poille came to his senses and sent Stortini down to acquire a real heavyweight with about as much skill. McGrattan did his job to a T.

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I'mjust happy this team gave him a shot, he was really intimidating in his 30 games and didn't hurt the team. Even if he's not back, good thing Poille came to his senses and sent Stortini down to acquire a real heavyweight with about as much skill. McGrattan did his job to a T.
Only six fights, at least four were staged and predictable before the game started. He brings one thing, and one thing only, and that role is waning in the league back to the mid-70s level.

It was probably his last fight against Reaves that put him on IR.

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Only six fights, at least four were staged and predictable before the game started. He brings one thing, and one thing only, and that role is waning in the league back to the mid-70s level.

It was probably his last fight against Reaves that put him on IR.
Staged fights are the best. 1 fight every 5 games is very good for a heavyweight this year. I agree the role is disappearing, but he knew how to fight and play up the crowd. He was cheap at just 600k on a 2-way and didn't embarass himself on the ice.

You don't think he was a good pick-up?

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Staged fights are the best. 1 fight every 5 games is very good for a heavyweight this year. I agree the role is disappearing, but he knew how to fight and play up the crowd. He was cheap at just 600k on a 2-way and didn't embarass himself on the ice.

You don't think he was a good pick-up?
I have no issue with him as a pick up for a role player, but, I despise the staged fight. Drop the gloves because of an event in the game, not because player X and Y just happen to be dressed.

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I have no issue with him as a pick up for a role player, but, I despise the staged fight. Drop the gloves because of an event in the game, not because player X and Y just happen to be dressed.
The instigator prevents that. Trying to get a fight now is like asking for a date at the prom.

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The instigator prevents that. Trying to get a fight now is like asking for a date at the prom.

"You wanna go?"
"...no, sorry"

"You wanna go?"
"With you?"
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The instigator

On average there are about 30 instigator calls per year across the league. Notice who McGrattan fought ... Parros x2, Boll, Reaves ... predictable staged fights. Goon X, and Goon Y if dressed will meet in the 1st or 2nd period and dance. For the rest of the game each team essentially skates 11 forwards.

Compare those to the Fisher, Wilson, Yip, Geoffrion, or Bouillon fights which are directly related to events on the ice.

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The instigator

On average there are about 30 instigator calls per year across the league. Notice who McGrattan fought ... Parros x2, Boll, Reaves ... predictable staged fights. Goon X, and Goon Y if dressed will meet in the 1st or 2nd period and dance. For the rest of the game each team essentially skates 11 forwards.

Compare those to the Fisher, Wilson, Yip, Geoffrion, or Bouillon fights which are directly related to events on the ice.
Except none of the other Preds you mentioned are intimidating to other teams, and no one else on this team needs to, or is expected to fight (except maybe Tootoo).

Also, the reason there are so few instigator calls is because nobody jumps anyone anymore and that's what you have to do nowadays to get that call.

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Except none of the other Preds you mentioned are intimidating to other teams, and no one else on this team needs to, or is expected to fight (except maybe Tootoo).

Also, the reason there are so few instigator calls is because nobody jumps anyone anymore and that's what you have to do nowadays to get that call.
McGrattan's intimidation factor is overrated. The only people he's going to fight are the other known heavyweights. When a guy like Montador or Beleskey does something, he won't fight them.

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McGrattan's intimidation factor is overrated. The only people he's going to fight are the other known heavyweights. When a guy like Montador or Beleskey does something, he won't fight them.
Yeah, damn instigator

That said, he does intimidate a bit, and probably more than any other enforcer in the league. I wish this was 1999, he'd have 30 fights.

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Yeah, damn instigator

That said, he does intimidate a bit, and probably more than any other enforcer in the league. I wish this was 1999, he'd have 30 fights.
The instigator is the most overhyped, undercalled rule in the league ... and gets blamed/credited for things it has little influence upon.

This year is on pace to be the first with the team fighting major lead falling below the 74-75 and 75-76 levels ... still over double the number of fights that teams had pre-67 expansion. Even in 1999, only one player had 30 fights.

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The instigator is the most overhyped, undercalled rule in the league ... and gets blamed/credited for things it has little influence upon.

This year is on pace to be the first with the team fighting major lead falling below the 74-75 and 75-76 levels ... still over double the number of fights that teams had pre-67 expansion. Even in 1999, only one player had 30 fights.
Yeah, most fights in a season ha dropped a ton.

1997: Paul Laus An NHL-record 39 fights
1998: Krzysztof "The Polish Hammer" Oliwa 34 fights
2002: Peter Worrell 33 fights
2006: Brian McGrattan 19 fights
2010: Zenon Konopka 33 fights
2011: George Parros 27 Fights
2012: Shawn Thornton and Brandon Prust, 19 fights so far

It seems to go in cycles.

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Yeah, most fights in a season ha dropped a ton.

1997: Paul Laus An NHL-record 39 fights
1998: Krzysztof "The Polish Hammer" Oliwa 34 fights
2002: Peter Worrell 33 fights
2006: Brian McGrattan 19 fights
2010: Zenon Konopka 33 fights
2011: George Parros 27 Fights
2012: Shawn Thornton and Brandon Prust, 19 fights so far

It seems to go in cycles.
1966-67 Canadiens 22 total fights to lead the league
1974-75 Flyers 77 total fights. The Broad Street Bullies didn't drop as much as legend portrays now.

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1966-67 Canadiens 22 total fights to lead the league
1974-75 Flyers 77 total fights. The Broad Street Bullies didn't drop as much as legend portrays now.
Yeah, the golden age of fighting was really the period from Gretzky's bodyguards in the 80's right up until this year. At it's peak circa 1997 every team, even Detroit, had a goon.

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I can live with the fact that things change, but I'm happy my favourite style of hockey had it's day in the sun. However, it's at the end of the line and I can respect that. I loved every minute of it, don't get me wrong, I love everything about hockey, but my favourite part is the fights!

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