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Why is this word so prevalent in current political rhetoric?
Obama has been compared to a Nazi, so has GWB, so have a lot of people.
Why are people so obsessed with calling people nazi's who clearly aren't nazi's?
Why do some people get so offended about other people using the world nazi?
Why do some people not care about other people using the word nazi in an improper context, while some people even find the use of the word nazi in silly contexts quite hilarious.
and, finally, is all this improper use of the word doing more bad than it is good?
or has the word nazi become so desensitized because of over usage, and improper usage, that calling another person or individual a nazi, lost all relevance or "zing"?
Personally, i think because of excessive misuse, the word nazi has become quite meaninglessness, and really pretty much a joke.
Considering politicians pretty much get away with comparing the Obama administration without much repercussions and outrage. I'd say the word Nazi, name Hitler, and comparisons to the third Reich have become nothing more than a giant joke.
and society should move on from permitted the pervasive use of the term, but until everyone actually does, I think Nazi and Hitler jokes are 100% necessary to make people realize how silly these comparisons really are... and that people making these comparisons on live TV should face consequences, beyond losing an election.
It's just crazy how obsessed our current society is with nazi germany, still to this day.
making nazi related films, both comedy, horror, and historical has become quite the fad.
and so has using nazi as a political slur.
is there any chance people grow up and stop using nazi terminology to describe people and things that are clearly not nazi inspired? I'm guessing not.
People do the same thing when they call you a socialist. They look back at history and find the worst possible example and then compare it to you to make a point.
But there's nothing wrong with socialism. Unless you consider Sweden or the UK to be an evil empire.
Are the people referred to as Nazi's as evil?
I wouldn't call the Nazi's bad and evil like the villains in a Star Wars movie. I think they went the extreme route to try and solve their problems which was bad and evil.
It's an easy way to criticize your opponent. "This man is a Nazi!" is a much better sound-byte than a serious critique of their policies. Of course it's ******** and solves none of society's problems. Tends to be the more ideological people who throw terms like that around; ex. my roommate is a hardcore left-of-centre liberal and frequently refers to Harper as a dictator.
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It's an easy way to criticize your opponent. "This man is a Nazi!" is a much better sound-byte than a serious critique of their policies. Of course it's ******** and solves none of society's problems. Tends to be the more ideological people who throw terms like that around; ex. my roommate is a hardcore left-of-centre liberal and frequently refers to Harper as a dictator.
Yet another post from from Seanconn who with every post provides additional proof he is simply an uninformed and ill-educated idiot... as if we did not already have ample evidence.
For those who lost family in the concentration camps it is anything but "pretty much a joke." The only joke here is Seanconn.
As President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz said in Brussels at the 2012 International Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27, 2012.
"I am born after the Second World War. But as a German representative I feel that I have a very specific responsibility, because what happened, and what was decided at the so-called Wannsee Conference was decided in the name of the German people, and I am a representative of the German people.
"The German people of today are not guilty, but responsible... to keep the memory and to never forget that what happened, happened in the name of our nation.”
Outgoing European Parliamentary President Jerzy Buzek also spoke at the gathering, explaining that as a man born in occupied Poland, a scant 60 kilometers from where the Auschwitz concentration camp was being built, he grew up and has returned to the area “with the same dreadfulness and sadness in [his] heart.”
Intellectually, said Buzek, “We are helpless in trying to understand [the Holocaust], to name it, to classify it... it was an act of rejection of our culture, religion, our humanity. Today, [it] remains a relevant warning... That's our obligation – to do everything to prevent any repetition in the future.”
As George Santyana famously wrote:
Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
Overwhelming ignorance trotted out by Seanconn for all to see. I can scarcely credit anyone being that ignorant but it is what we have come to expect from this poster.
The government owns and runs the hospitals, employs the doctors, and pays for health care costs out of public money.
If that's not socialism, I don't know what is.
If publicly financed health care is the defining trait of "socialism", then every industrialised nation in the world, including the United States, is "socialist".
Both Sweden and the United Kingdom are capitalist free-market economies, where private ownership of business is encouraged and the market is left without any major government interference. Referring to such an economy as "socialist" is outright ridiculous.
If publicly financed health care is the defining trait of "socialism", then every industrialised nation in the world, including the United States, is "socialist".
Both Sweden and the United Kingdom are capitalist free-market economies, where private ownership of business is encouraged and the market is left without any major government interference. Referring to such an economy as "socialist" is outright ridiculous.
Great post. "Socialism" is such a misused term it's not even funny.
Even the so-called "socialist" Scandinavian nations aren't even close to the actual definition of socialism.
They are capitalist, free market countries just like the United States the only difference is that the Scandinavian countries have figured out to provide quality healthcare and education to all of their citizens as basic rights where the US... has not.
If publicly financed health care is the defining trait of "socialism", then every industrialised nation in the world, including the United States, is "socialist".
Both Sweden and the United Kingdom are capitalist free-market economies, where private ownership of business is encouraged and the market is left without any major government interference. Referring to such an economy as "socialist" is outright ridiculous.
I think you're confusing socialism and communism.
Publicly-financed alone doesn't make something socialist, I agree. But the National Health Service in the UK is indeed a socialist health care system. The entire industry is government-owned and operated. It's not just a question of public funding of health care. The British government owns and runs the hospitals, employs the doctors, etc.
When the government owns and runs a whole industry, that's the definition of socialism.
And that's different from, say, Medicare in the US or the Canadian health care system, in which the government pays for health care, but the hospitals and doctors are still privatized.
