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03-22-2012, 11:47 PM
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Ah yes, once again the oiler fans get nicely manipulated into hating a player by the oiler controlled media. It's like leading a bull around by it's nose ring.
manipulated? no.

whatever happened to actually performing and proving you are good enough. you know, like what RNH did at training camp. he forced them to put him on the team. when has Omark ever done that? has he ever been the best player on the ice? has he ever had a 3 point night? 2? what has he done to make you like him so much?????? WHAT?????? WHEN???? a few nice goals in the SEL? be still my beating heart. when he slaps a one-timer past Kiprusoff i'll be impressed. when he wins a battle with Bieska and bangs home a rebound, I'll be impressed. two things that him and I have in common, neither of us have ever done it.

who was right or wrong with Schremp? were we manipulated then? or was he simple not good enough? it had nothing to do with coaches not liking him, he just couldn't play the game at the NHL level.

look past the nifty little stickhandling and grade his whole game. HE IS NOT THAT GOOD!!!!


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03-23-2012, 12:00 AM
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manipulated? no. my eyes tell me he isn't that good. and the stats back it up. if he was good enough to make the team better, he would have made the team at training camp.

why do you defend him. HE IS NOT THAT GOOD!!!!
Because it's more likely that a player with uncommon skills will learn common skills than vice versa.

Because it's tiring watching a team where half the players are terrible puck handlers.

Because, quite frankly, we have a lot of "not that good" players, but at least Omark is entertaining.

Because, at his best, he actually is pretty good.

Because the negativity he gets here is over the top, so it needs to be balanced. Just because you can't stand the fanboys doesn't mean you need to become a hater.

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03-23-2012, 12:05 AM
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Because it's more likely that a player with uncommon skills will learn common skills than vice versa.

Because it's tiring watching a team where half the players are terrible puck handlers.

Because, quite frankly, we have a lot of "not that good" players, but at least Omark is entertaining.

Because, at his best, he actually is pretty good.

Because the negativity he gets here is over the top, so it needs to be balanced. Just because you can't stand the fanboys doesn't mean you need to become a hater.
There is a top 10 point getter and a 5 million dollar man that make Omark a blip in the history of the Oilers...not his fault...just the facts.

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03-23-2012, 12:06 AM
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Because it's more likely that a player with uncommon skills will learn common skills than vice versa.

Because it's tiring watching a team where half the players are terrible puck handlers.

Because, quite frankly, we have a lot of "not that good" players, but at least Omark is entertaining.

Because, at his best, he actually is pretty good.

Because the negativity he gets here is over the top, so it needs to be balanced. Just because you can't stand the fanboys doesn't mean you need to become a hater.
well, that's fair enough. i may have fallen victim to that tendency. i'm ok with the player. but i'm so sick of these over rated stickhandlers. why do so many of you fall in love with these guys? they don't actually produce many goals. Battling in front of the net does. and if they don't bring anything else then they are useless.

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03-23-2012, 12:06 AM
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meh

Hall
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RNH
Hemsky
Gagner...

The top 6 needs size and grit if anything. Omark is not that. Cya.

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03-23-2012, 12:06 AM
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There is a top 10 point getter and a 5 million dollar man that make Omark a blip in the history of the Oilers...not his fault...just the facts.
Since when does our third line have to be a "grinder"? I like the look of a physical guy and a fancy guy on the same line here.

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03-23-2012, 12:10 AM
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To get the ahl playoff experience? Or was MPS abow that last season?

Yes im not very good at english, i suffer from a mild dyslexia and cant even spell proper in swedish. Also its 5am here. If you wish to laugh at my spelling misstakes go ahead sir you have my blessing.
Not sure what value AHL playoff experience would have had to him at that point. I would think that going to the WC and playing against and with NHL caliber players would have been more valuable to him.

Last season MPS's development looked great, he had a good rookie season in the NHL. At that point I think that WC>AHL playoffs especially since the Barons weren't nearly as good last season. They only played what 6 games losing 4 and winning 2? This year is a bit different as they will be contending for the Calder Cup and could play upwards of 20 games if they go to the finals.

Omark probably also finds a little more value in playing in the AHL playoffs as he has not grasped the NA game quite as well as MPS had at that point.

Look a year later at MPS and maybe it would have been better for him to play more in the AHL last season. Hindsight is 20/20 though.

I like Omark, I think he works hard most of the time and has some decent skill. I won't be surprised if he finds a 2nd line job somewhere in the NHL next year. Its just not with the Oilers, he's got Hemsky and Eberle ahead of him on the RW and he's not an effective bottom 6 guy.

I have no problem with him going to the WC instead of the Barons for the playoffs. It probably says a little bit about him and what he thinks about the Oilers organization but I don't hold that against him at this point.

I'm not laughing at your disability, just pointing out that you make mistakes too. Although I did think my Rooster joke was quite good.

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03-23-2012, 12:11 AM
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Since when does our third line have to be a "grinder"? I like the look of a physical guy and a fancy guy on the same line here.
When the player believes that he should play more than 10 minutes a game...

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03-23-2012, 12:13 AM
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Since when does our third line have to be a "grinder"? I like the look of a physical guy and a fancy guy on the same line here.
Since we have almost no size in the top 6. to me the Oilers third line is made out of guys who can crash and bang but still play good hockey. Hartikainen comes to mind.

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03-23-2012, 12:21 AM
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IMO these should've been our lines all year long ...

Hall RNH Eberle -- Our highest end talent
MPS Gagner Hemsky -- Speed/secondary scoring
Smyth Horcoff Omark -- Cycle line
Eager Belanger Jones -- Checking/energy line
Hordi/Hartikanen

That would've made too much sense though, instead we dicked around all year long not getting a proper look at either MPS or Omark and played Smyth, Horcoff, and Belanger until they were completely gassed. Even though we've been out of playoff contention since like early December. Good job Renney.

Aside from the development of the three main kids (which would've happened no matter what, just throw them out there every third shift, they'll do their thing) and Petry this season has been a complete and total waste.


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03-23-2012, 12:33 AM
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IMO these should've been our lines all year long ...

Hall RNH Eberle -- Our highest end talent
MPS Gagner Hemsky -- Speed/secondary scoring
Smyth Horcoff Omark -- Cycle line
Eager Belanger Jones -- Checking/energy line
Hordi/Hartikanen

That would've made too much sense though, instead we dicked around all year long not getting a proper look at either MPS or Omark and played Smyth, Horcoff, and Belanger until they were completely gassed. Even though we've been out of playoff contention since like early December. Good job Renney.

Aside from the development of the three main kids (which would've happened no matter what, just throw them out there every third shift, they'll do their thing) and Petry this season has been a complete and total waste.
Your first line has been shut down repeatedly this year and struggled in their own end. Your second line has no one to dig the puck out for Hemsky because he ain't getting it. Your third line is cycling in the corner and passing to no one...to busy waiting for the Smyth wrap around. I like your fourth line.

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03-23-2012, 12:41 AM
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Your first line has been shut down repeatedly this year and struggled in their own end. Your second line has no one to dig the puck out for Hemsky because he ain't getting it. Your third line is cycling in the corner and passing to no one...to busy waiting for the Smyth wrap around. I like your fourth line.
What difference would it make? We're second last in the league as is.

If Smyth-Horcoff-Omark doesn't work at all, why did it look pretty darn good today?

MPS + Gagner + Hemsky was looking good for like the three games Renney was willing to try it.

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03-23-2012, 12:51 AM
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IMO these should've been our lines all year long ...

Hall RNH Eberle -- Our highest end talent
MPS Gagner Hemsky -- Speed/secondary scoring
Smyth Horcoff Omark -- Cycle line
Eager Belanger Jones -- Checking/energy line
Hordi/Hartikanen

That would've made too much sense though, instead we dicked around all year long not getting a proper look at either MPS or Omark and played Smyth, Horcoff, and Belanger until they were completely gassed. Even though we've been out of playoff contention since like early December. Good job Renney.

Aside from the development of the three main kids (which would've happened no matter what, just throw them out there every third shift, they'll do their thing) and Petry this season has been a complete and total waste.
Take your hate glasses off.
  1. PRV sucked most of the year, and when he turned in on, it was too late. At some point, he has to bear some of the blame. (I know you're just going to blab about management all day long)
  2. Omark and a broken ****ing ankle. He was out most of the damn season!!
  3. First line has been bad defenisely and only works at home. Are we going to just line juggle and lose all our games on the road? Yeah, apparently we did lose all our games on the road when we did that earlier in the season.
  4. Harti has had solid development in the minors. Are you so shortsighed that you forgot how garbage he was his previous call up?

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03-23-2012, 12:52 AM
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What difference would it make? We're second last in the league as is.
If Smyth-Horcoff-Omark doesn't work at all, why did it look pretty darn good today?

MPS + Gagner + Hemsky was looking good for like the three games Renney was willing to try it.
So you want to continue in the bottom 5...cool.

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03-23-2012, 12:58 AM
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Umm Im fine with this qoute, he could have said it 2 seasons ago though...

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stuff him in an envelope and mail him to the Atlantic ocean, priority post...

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So you want to continue in the bottom 5...cool.
Because playing Belanger with MPS over and over and over and over again even though it's clear it was never working and overplaying Horcoff and Smyth until they were gassed really helped us move out of the bottom five, right?

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Swedish are you?
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This is the only warning you're going to get -- making implications on posters because you think they're from Sweden or going over the line with some of the Omark comments and you're going to get a taste of the ban hammer.

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I wonder how many people here speak as many languages as Omark does, his english is decent but far from perfect. Crucifying him over what could easily be an error in syntax is sad, I've watched a quite a few interviews with Omark looking very frustrated at his english and trying to navigate his way through loaded questions from turd reporters, why don't the haters here learn some swedish and then answer questions on tv to reporters trying to make a story out of nothing and see how well you do it.

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I wonder how many people here speak as many languages as Omark does, his english is decent but far from perfect. Crucifying him over what could easily be an error in syntax is sad, I've watched a quite a few interviews with Omark looking very frustrated at his english and trying to navigate his way through loaded questions from turd reporters, why don't the haters here learn some swedish and then answer questions on tv to reporters trying to make a story out of nothing and see how well you do it.
Good post. Although there is one additional problem, imo. Omark is really bad at interviews in Swedish as well... I normally have to read them a couple of times to understand what the h*** he's talking about.

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By this time 2014 Omark will be but a distant memory, like a bunch of other guys.... Schremp, Nilsson, etc. Until the next shiny new youtube specialist comes up that can't play the NHL game.

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Like MPS grinded throw the last year ahl playoff?
Lets be real here, Omark is most likely 99% i would say not an oiler come next year. For him personally playing in a minor league isnt a priority. For him its getting into a new nhl club and if that doesnt work go back to europe.
Paajarvi wasn't eligible for the AHL playoffs last year.

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I wonder how many people here speak as many languages as Omark does, his english is decent but far from perfect. Crucifying him over what could easily be an error in syntax is sad, I've watched a quite a few interviews with Omark looking very frustrated at his english and trying to navigate his way through loaded questions from turd reporters, why don't the haters here learn some swedish and then answer questions on tv to reporters trying to make a story out of nothing and see how well you do it.
Yes because for reasons only known by some the media is trying to secretly trying to make the fans hate him. Exactly who gains what by that. How bout this idea Linus, quit giving sound bites that make you sound like a pouty entitled *****.

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At this point, I think Omark should just speak his mind. His fate seems to have been sealed long before he made that comment.
QFT. Funny that the best thing said in a 8pages thread (so far) is in post #6.

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