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03-23-2012, 12:15 AM
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Pretty sure I saw a little head shake from Roloson when he saved the Omark slapper .
As if to say "get real kid you aren't beating me with crap like that when I've been stoning guys all night long" .

Rolli was on fire tonight . The talk of the shootout should be how Khabbi let in two softies between the pads , not Omark's shot selection .

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A true shame how many people are on Omark no matter what he does. Get over it already. Six shots and a tip in goal. All that is talked about is his missed shoot out attempt. Unreal...

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i realize tampa is not a great benchmark but overall i have noticed a lot more crisp and decisive passing in our breakouts and transition game.

When we move the puck properly in our own end we are quite a good team that is capable of winning any night.

This is a good sign moving forward.

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03-23-2012, 12:24 AM
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A true shame how many people are on Omark no matter what he does. Get over it already. Six shots and a tip in goal. All that is talked about is his missed shoot out attempt. Unreal...
Game should never have gone to a shootout...Roli beeacthed us. Omark was not the concern tonite.

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03-23-2012, 12:54 AM
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Tampa was terrible tonight. It's a shame Roloson had to put on a 05-06 playoff level performance. Although to be fair a lot of those shots were right into his chest.

Odd shootout decisions with Hartikainen and Smyth and of Nuge, but I'm sure that has already been covered.

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03-23-2012, 01:14 AM
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It is pretty clear why that line is working right now. Whenever Hemsky is carrying the puck, Hartikianen drives the net. That means he is taking a defender with him which opens up a lot of room for Hemsky to weave around in the slot.

That has been our best line the last 3 games by far.
What does Gagner do?

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03-23-2012, 01:17 AM
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What does Gagner do?
Puts on his infamous "snowpants"

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Jesus Christ.

Replacement: the goalie that Omark beat in the shootout with a slapshot for Sweden? That was Vokoun.

Yeah. Vokoun.

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03-23-2012, 03:08 AM
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Replacement: the goalie that Omark beat in the shootout with a slapshot for Sweden? That was Vokoun.

Yeah. Vokoun.
You sure? He looked like crap on it. just saying. Didn't even move.

Anyway, confirmed, good game for Omark. Playing with two vets keeps him honest and motivated and the line worked well together. Smyth and Horc need a catalyst and Omark was that tonight.

The goal was typical of Omarks efforts on nights like this. Puck is out of reach so he one hand stabs at the cross and it goes in. I would say a little puck luck except Omark was doing a lot of this and does a lot of those little things that could potentially result in something. Linus was on tonight and clearly motivated by sitting out.
unfortunately however thats largely been the trouble with Omark. Gets a chance, looks good for 1 or 2 games, than kind of goes away again.

Hopefully he sustains this effort the rest of this season and with Smyth and Horcoff. Again I see this as a good fit.

But Hemsky just playing on another planet lately. Head and shoulders the best Oiler over the last handful of games and not even close. Just toying with the Lightning D all night long.
Its special on a night you look better than Stamkos.

Yeah, this Hemsky is why you sign up Hemsky. Consider it a bargain if we get much at all like this going forward.

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03-23-2012, 03:26 AM
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Jones is sucking the life out of Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins. They need a new winger, pronto.
I'm starting to feel bad for Khabbi. He hasn't played particularly bad on a lot of nights since his hot start but the damn team never wins for him.

Jones can't play their style, Ebs and Nuge are on Jedi Level. That's like putting Jar Jar Binks alongside Vader and Darth Sidious. Just weird man.

Try Ben Eager. He's fast, big, doesn't take crap, and has decent puck handling skills.

Love Jones, but he belongs on the 3rd line

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Tampa was terrible tonight. It's a shame Roloson had to put on a 05-06 playoff level performance. Although to be fair a lot of those shots were right into his chest.

Odd shootout decisions with Hartikainen and Smyth and of Nuge, but I'm sure that has already been covered.
Trying to stay in the lottery perhaps?

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03-23-2012, 03:35 AM
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Riiiight...that is the reason to throw Renney under the bus.
It is actually. If an NHL coach can't even correctly decide the order of shooters in a shoot-out for their best chance at winning, that is a big reason to question his place as head coach of this team. That tells me his decisions are based on emotion and personal view, rather than logic and strategy. He needs to go man, his allocation of ice time, is a big reason why the oilers lost the games they should've won.

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You sure? He looked like crap on it. just saying. Didn't even move.

Anyway, confirmed, good game for Omark. Playing with two vets keeps him honest and motivated and the line worked well together. Smyth and Horc need a catalyst and Omark was that tonight.

The goal was typical of Omarks efforts on nights like this. Puck is out of reach so he one hand stabs at the cross and it goes in. I would say a little puck luck except Omark was doing a lot of this and does a lot of those little things that could potentially result in something. Linus was on tonight and clearly motivated by sitting out.
unfortunately however thats largely been the trouble with Omark. Gets a chance, looks good for 1 or 2 games, than kind of goes away again.

Hopefully he sustains this effort the rest of this season and with Smyth and Horcoff. Again I see this as a good fit.

But Hemsky just playing on another planet lately. Head and shoulders the best Oiler over the last handful of games and not even close. Just toying with the Lightning D all night long.
Its special on a night you look better than Stamkos.

Yeah, this Hemsky is why you sign up Hemsky. Consider it a bargain if we get much at all like this going forward.
Yeah, that kinda happens when you get sat for that 3rd game. weird, right?

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You sure? He looked like crap on it. just saying. Didn't even move.

Anyway, confirmed, good game for Omark. Playing with two vets keeps him honest and motivated and the line worked well together. Smyth and Horc need a catalyst and Omark was that tonight.

The goal was typical of Omarks efforts on nights like this. Puck is out of reach so he one hand stabs at the cross and it goes in. I would say a little puck luck except Omark was doing a lot of this and does a lot of those little things that could potentially result in something. Linus was on tonight and clearly motivated by sitting out.
unfortunately however thats largely been the trouble with Omark. Gets a chance, looks good for 1 or 2 games, than kind of goes away again.

Hopefully he sustains this effort the rest of this season and with Smyth and Horcoff. Again I see this as a good fit.
Talking about beer, how drunk are you? Saying Omark did a good job? Im suspecting you been on the vodka sir

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03-23-2012, 06:54 AM
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I'm kind of hoping the Oilers lose the rest of the games. I'd hate the team to pull an Ottawa (last year), win some meaningless games and drop 4-5 spots in the draft as a result.

To this end, Tom Renney, please:

- Play the heck out of Horcoff - I want him on the ice in all situations, 36 minutes a game!
- Play Smyth more than 25 minutes a game
- Sit Hall until he's absolutely, 100% OK
- Have Omark join Smyth and Horcoff playing >20 minutes per night (if he ends up showing that he's got a future, better for the Oilers)
- Call up some AHL players (maybe Pitlick and Hamilton?)
- More Barker!
- More Peckham!
- Have Schultz on the bottom-pair (to continue to "adjust" to the new team)
- 12 minutes per game of Hordichuk
- Eric Belanger - more power play time
- Allow Potter to hone his defensive game by putting him with Barker/Peckham in late-game, winning-by-a-goal situations

Am I missing anything?

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What does Gagner do?
Lead the team in plus minus, score at a .67 ppg pace, be only 2% away from Horcoff in face off %, actually fight a guy in a meaningless game to stand up for the team.

Other than that not much I guess.

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Lead the team in plus minus, score at a .67 ppg pace, be only 2% away from Horcoff in face off %, actually fight a guy in a meaningless game to stand up for the team.

Other than that not much I guess.
What does he do on that line?

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After looking at sutter's shootout selection tonight, I'm not nearly as annoyed. Fun game to be at. Will be at the Florida game today too.

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(cue a blizzard of SEL lame shootout videos where he blows it by hapless goalies)
Won't happen, I'm afraid, since there were no shootouts in the SEL while Omark played there.

Shootouts were incorporated into the SEL back in 1999-2000, but taken away five years later, before Omark entered the league.
During his time in the SEL, a scoreless OT would simply end in a tie.
They didn't bring the shootouts back until last season*, when Omark was already gone.

* Much to the delight of one Rob Schremp, I bet, since teams in the SEL can use the same player over and over again in a shootout.
Not to mention, a game-winning shootout goal will count as a regular goal in the stats.

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Forget RNH, Horcoff should have been shooting.
That's what I was thinking too. As much as I dislike Horcoff, he is pretty good in the shootout. Surprised he hasn't seen an attempt in ages.

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Tampa was terrible tonight. It's a shame Roloson had to put on a 05-06 playoff level performance. Although to be fair a lot of those shots were right into his chest.

Odd shootout decisions with Hartikainen and Smyth and of Nuge, but I'm sure that has already been covered.
I can't complain about SO shooters, because there is a lot we don't see. Hartikainen could've been hot in practice or maybe he was doing well in OKC. Unless their first 3 shooters are Hordichuk, Schultz and Belanger I can't complain.

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I guess I am one of the few that actually didnt mind the Omark move. Everyone and their dog knows what he did last time, spin...fake slapper... deke, so he comes out and looks like he is going to do the fake slapper and pulls the trigger. Shot was right for top corner just Roli made a great save. Roli made like 20 great saves that game!

I dont understand Harti going into the shootout. I mean really? And his "move" was by far the worst of anyones. Almost looked like his idea was to skate as fast as he could and run throw the goalie and at the last moment said nah ill just leave it. Terrible.

Harti and Smyth would not have been my choices for the shootout but if RNH had gone for Harti and then Smyth I dont think anyone would be upset. Though I would have used Horc before Smytty... and I hate Horc!

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Man, you Omark haters are relentless. He had a good game and that shootout attempt wasn't a poor one.
Either was Smyth's, he hit the goalpost for goodness sake. That hasn't stop endless talk about picking Smyth over RNH.

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Well most beer do taste alot better in europe. We are miles ahead of you guys when it comes to beer.
But on the good note, you guys are miles ahead of the states so give yourself a pad on the back! Granville brewery has some nice beer

Talking about beer, how drunk are you? Saying Omark did a good job? Im suspecting you been on the vodka sir
heh, no worries. You could send me a crate of Single Malt Oban scotch and I'll say good things about Omark for the next year.

j/k aside for sure he was good. I wish we played Tampa 10 times/year. Its a shame how the NHL is structured and you don't see a lot of these sides often at all.

Weird Trivia: This is the first game Khabi played in Tampa since he won a cup there in 2004. Thats just straight out strange.

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I guess I am one of the few that actually didnt mind the Omark move. Everyone and their dog knows what he did last time, spin...fake slapper... deke, so he comes out and looks like he is going to do the fake slapper and pulls the trigger. Shot was right for top corner just Roli made a great save. Roli made like 20 great saves that game!
The pts been belabored painfully by now but have you ever been a goalie? Where do you want somebody to put a shot on a breakaway? High glove hand. A lot of goalies pretend to give you that and take it away. Its really the easiest save to make. I don't blame Omark alone, so many guys go glove hand that shouldn't. A goalie like Roli wants you to. Note that Hemskys glove side low is much more difficult to stop. Because he kept it low.

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Either was Smyth's, he hit the goalpost for goodness sake. That hasn't stop endless talk about picking Smyth over RNH.
RNH had a deplorable game as well. Not really in most coaches mandate to reward a game like that with being in the shootout lineup.

I'll make it clear here. A club out of the mix and that knows the players could completely dial it in at this time of the year are appreciating the effort of some players in games like this.

If you look through the shootout lineup its largely about that effort being rewarded. The two pts doesn't mean anything. Getting players to commit and play the game you need them to means everything.

Its not that hard to understand and you'll find a lot of coaches that employ it in this out of the running situation.

If we really needed the two pts one would hope for a different list. But I don't think one can delineate Renney can't pick one when we don't know what the org priority is right now.

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