that game was entertaining. superb goalies on both sides.
i enjoyed it more then 90% of the red wing games. thats for sure.
and yes i know they are 28th in goal scoring. but what about goal scoring the last games since trade deadline?
in the last 30 games they are 2nd in power play goals in the league. can you say that about the wings?
so its easy to say they are more entertaining the last 30 games then the wings.
and yes, the kings passed us in the standings for now. i think they will end up in 3rd place.
30 games? just last month they went 5-9 with 8 games where they scored 1 goal or fewer.
If you find that entertaining then by all means head over to the Kings board.
Doesn't seem like you're a fan of the Wings anyways.
30 games? just last month they went 5-9 with 8 games where they scored 1 goal or fewer.
If you find that entertaining then by all means head over to the Kings board.
Doesn't seem like you're a fan of the Wings anyways.
I'm so lost. If the kings score 2 goals that an explosion. The Wings would face them in the playoffs they would slap the taste out of their mouth in a series.
Osgood sucks and was a product of the Wings system (haven't heard that one before)
Doughty could be the next Lidstrom?
Yzerman, Fedorov = Carter, Richards
That's pretty much all you need to read folks.
If you are going to rip on someones opinion like that, you should at least use the right players.
The Kings have have great potential. If they actually start scoring, everybody better watch out.
30 games? just last month they went 5-9 with 8 games where they scored 1 goal or fewer.
If you find that entertaining then by all means head over to the Kings board.
Doesn't seem like you're a fan of the Wings anyways.
whats the wings record in the last 8 games then? if you think this is better then that what the kings did, its ok to me.
you guys must be very nervous about the wings if you dont even admit that other teams can play good hockey as well.
and i dont have to agree with everything the wings do now to be a red wings fan.
ask yourself, do you watch the wings for their performance now or for their achievements in the past?
if you ask me i could go on watching the wings without cleary, hudler, bertuzzi, quincey, macdonald, conklin, kindl and erricson without any problems.
i like the wings but i like hockey as well. and there is other hockey there next to the wings.
Osgood sucks and was a product of the Wings system (haven't heard that one before)
Doughty could be the next Lidstrom?
Yzerman, Fedorov = Carter, Richards
That's pretty much all you need to read folks.
hmm....
i posted kopitar and richards. but you can change thing if you want just to make your statement better.
and i said they reminde me at the wings not they are similar.
I like the Kings, I thought for a while they're due for a coming out party some time. It just hasn't really happened. Now they made a few bold moves and we'll see whether they are ripe for a run now.
whats the wings record in the last 8 games then? if you think this is better then that what the kings did, its ok to me.
you guys must be very nervous about the wings if you dont even admit that other teams can play good hockey as well.
You're basing a hell of a lot on the last 8 games. I don't think anyone here is nervous about admitting that other teams can play good hockey. That's such an obvious statement that it's not even worth saying. Pretty sure the reason everyone's laughing at you is your whole "I watched one Kings game and it was exciting and the last stretch of Wings games has been bad, therefore are the Kings better than us?"
I know it's hard to remember past last week, but try real hard or else you don't have any opinions worth mentioning.
Osgood sucks and was a product of the Wings system (haven't heard that one before)
Doughty could be the next Lidstrom?
Yzerman, Fedorov = Carter, Richards
That's pretty much all you need to read folks.
I really dont like how defensive most wings fans are about Lidstrom.
Saying "a lidstrom" or "he plays like lidstrom" or "a lidstrom-type" or "he reminds me of lidstrom" is not the same thing as saying he is as good or effective as lidstrom. When people make comments like this they are talking about style or the way they play/think the game. Nobody has ever said doughty, edler, or Ekman-larsson will be as good as Lidstrom...or close. But it doesnt change the fact that they play a similar style of hockey. I think that is what the OP was getting at.
It was kopitar and richards he compared to Yzerman and Fedorov. Again the OP wasnt comparing talent. He was comparing style. Richards is a hard-working (on ice) captain-type who can play both ends hard. Kopitar is a high end offensive talent who has a under-rated defensive game.
Obviously Doughty, kopitar and richards aren't Lidstrom, Fedorov and yzerman. But they play similar.
I really dont like how defensive most wings fans are about Lidstrom.
Saying "a lidstrom" or "he plays like lidstrom" or "a lidstrom-type" or "he reminds me of lidstrom" is not the same thing as saying he is as good or effective as lidstrom. When people make comments like this they are talking about style or the way they play/think the game. Nobody has ever said doughty, edler, or Ekman-larsson will be as good as Lidstrom...or close. But it doesnt change the fact that they play a similar style of hockey. I think that is what the OP was getting at.
It was kopitar and richards he compared to Yzerman and Fedorov. Again the OP wasnt comparing talent. He was comparing style. Richards is a hard-working (on ice) captain-type who can play both ends hard. Kopitar is a high end offensive talent who has a under-rated defensive game.
Obviously Doughty, kopitar and richards aren't Lidstrom, Fedorov and yzerman. But they play similar.
Except Doughty doesn't really play like Lidstrom at all. It seems that any defenseman with promising upside who doesn't deliver big hits must be compared to Lidstrom. And of course EVERY young Swedish defenseman that displays even a hint of two-way ability does as well. Hedman? Next Lidstrom. Ekman-Larsson? Next Lidstrom. Larsson? Next Lidstrom. And of course, all three of these defensemen have absolutely nothing in common other than the blue-and-yellow.
Except Doughty doesn't really play like Lidstrom at all. It seems that any defenseman with promising upside who doesn't deliver big hits must be compared to Lidstrom. And of course EVERY young Swedish defenseman that displays even a hint of two-way ability does as well. Hedman? Next Lidstrom. Ekman-Larsson? Next Lidstrom. Larsson? Next Lidstrom. And of course, all three of these defensemen have absolutely nothing in common other than the blue-and-yellow.
I agree with this 100%
You want my opinion? The only defenseman that comes close, and it's still a long shot, to Lidstrom's game right now is that rookie (or close to a rookie) stud Pietrangelo. That kid is going to have a HOF career. Book it.
Smooth on the blue line. Strong, but not a rocket, accurate shot. Strong defensively. He's a stud on the PK and the PP. Also, for a Canadian kid he sure doesn't play that physical; more about his positioning. Another Lidstrom trait.
On thing Lidstrom does better than Pietrangelo still (does well enough, though)....stick work. Lidstrom's stick checking skills have always been out of this world, even when he was a rookie. Mister "Pie" will most likely learn as he goes along.
Blues got a nice D-man here. Funny thing is...he's not even Swedish.
You're basing a hell of a lot on the last 8 games. I don't think anyone here is nervous about admitting that other teams can play good hockey. That's such an obvious statement that it's not even worth saying. Pretty sure the reason everyone's laughing at you is your whole "I watched one Kings game and it was exciting and the last stretch of Wings games has been bad, therefore are the Kings better than us?"
I know it's hard to remember past last week, but try real hard or else you don't have any opinions worth mentioning.
because that was the games i saw from the kings. i mentioned that i watched the kings only lately. did u see any kings games lately. they were entertaining. that was everything i said.
the rest was put in there by other people. some things people put in there was even not written at all.
having 2 strong centers, 2 really good and promising young defensemen, a couple of good veteran defense guys and some elite winger was exactly the start of the good red wings time in the earlie 90s. whats wrong with this statement?
a center roster with depth lead to cups quite often. see detroit or pittsburgh. maybe it will work out for the kings as well.
and comparing the red wings to other hockey teams turn you into a troll? thats rediculous.
so i am only a good red wing fan when i say cleary is the best player in the league, holmstrom is the swedish flash, hudler is a physical presents on the ice and every team else cant play hockey at all?
that sounds more like a fanatic then a fan to me. but keep on throwing poo poo at me. there are some facts you cant deny.
1. The Kings are almost as boring as the Wild this year.
2. If they due pass us in the standings it will be by virtue of they're awful division, not having more points.
The Kings are so random though. Wouldn't Nashville be more relevant? They might pass us in the standings for the 1st time ever.
1. Before the deadline, you can say the Kings were boring. They weren't scoring so that does lead to many boring games. But, since the deadline, the Kings haven't had a boring game.(at least in my opinion) They are scoring and are just playing really well. Not sure if that's going to lead into the playoffs or not. Sutter changed the system a bit and it's improved the Kings dramatically. (at least when it comes to scoring goals). Last nights game was so exciting. It was like a playoff game and it ended in 1-0.
2. The Pacific division is hardly awful. There isn't a top team this year, but there are still solid teams and there isn't a bottom dweller team like the Jackets and Oilers. I wouldn't call that awful.
because that was the games i saw from the kings. i mentioned that i watched the kings only lately. did u see any kings games lately. they were entertaining. that was everything i said.
the rest was put in there by other people. some things people put in there was even not written at all.
having 2 strong centers, 2 really good and promising young defensemen, a couple of good veteran defense guys and some elite winger was exactly the start of the good red wings time in the earlie 90s. whats wrong with this statement?
a center roster with depth lead to cups quite often. see detroit or pittsburgh. maybe it will work out for the kings as well.
and comparing the red wings to other hockey teams turn you into a troll? thats rediculous.
so i am only a good red wing fan when i say cleary is the best player in the league, holmstrom is the swedish flash, hudler is a physical presents on the ice and every team else cant play hockey at all?
that sounds more like a fanatic then a fan to me. but keep on throwing poo poo at me. there are some facts you cant deny.
what facts?
all i see are opinions by a kings fan pretending to be a wings fan
so i am only a good red wing fan when i say cleary is the best player in the league, holmstrom is the swedish flash, hudler is a physical presents on the ice and every team else cant play hockey at all?
Uh, what? This board has nothing but hate for Cleary lately, most posters think Holmstrom needs to hang them up, and Hudler was one of the two go-to whipping boys before Cleary took over his doghouse. Saying the above would put you at odds with almost everyone here.
Uh, what? This board has nothing but hate for Cleary lately, most posters think Holmstrom needs to hang them up, and Hudler was one of the two go-to whipping boys before Cleary took over his doghouse. Saying the above would put you at odds with almost everyone here.
Oddly enough Hudler has more points than Richards this season.
The very same Richards he's comparing to Yzerman and Fedorov.
Until the past week Kings fans would have taken anyone for him just to get him off their roster.
2. The Pacific division is hardly awful. There isn't a top team this year, but there are still solid teams and there isn't a bottom dweller team like the Jackets and Oilers. I wouldn't call that awful.
Part of the OP's reasoning/defense/whatever was that we play Columbus 6x. Well LA played them 4 (and ATM we only played them 4x too.) and CHI, STL and NSH are all better than every team in he Pacific. Maybe "awful" is better used for the SE but the PAC certainly is not as good as the central.
