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03-26-2012, 05:25 AM
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Been busy and not been able to be around much. Luckily it seems I haven't missed much if the most on going thing is a lame Kings troll thread.

Be back for the playoffs....

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Kings win tonight
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Avs lose and could be down for the count

Los Angeles controls their destiny.

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Can we get a new graphic? one that shows LA at the bottom of the playoffs just a point or so away from missing the post-season? Because when i checked this morning, that's what I saw.

I love how this troll comes in here and compares a Wings team that was pretty much the griffons at the time with his team that has floundered most of the season and suddenly found a little bit of a hot streak.

Wings could be out in the first round but if I had to bet, I would absolutely have the Kings bumbed out in the first since they will have either St. Louis or the Cannucks.

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They've put themselves in good position to at least claim the #8 spot.

Oh, the optomistic words of the fans of crappy teams. When we're saying that about the wings it will be no cause for celebration.

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Oh, the optomistic words of the fans of crappy teams. When we're saying that about the wings it will be no cause for celebration.
Well the Kings are currently in third due to leading their division. They are 8-2 over the last 10, so they aren't limping to the finish line. The Avs are cooked which is something I predicted in the second half prediction thread. Los Angeles finishes with two games against San Jose and could knock the Sharks out of playoff position. So that would be nice but at this point all I'm worried about is trying to get home ice against the Preds in the first round.

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I'm surprised nobody revived this thread...

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I'm surprised nobody revived this thread...
Knocking off the 1,2 and 3 seed while only losing 2 games is damn impressive. They just have to be careful not to take the 6 seed Devils lightly.

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i wonder if it's possible to overdose on crow

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I have to admit, though I'm not sure I posted here, I posted some nasty things about the Kings this year.
They sucked so hard whenever I watched them. They were boring as hell. Jon Quick always seemed like he was ready to fold. I thought Sutter was the worst possible choice for a team that looked like it hated playing hockey the way it had been coached.

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They technically didn't pass us in the standings though.

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They technically didn't pass us in the standings though.

thats true, even when they win the cup.

but i think you got my point.

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05-29-2012, 05:44 AM
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thats true, even when they win the cup.

but i think you got my point.
That we should model our team after them?

Maybe in 2013-14 we could model our team after Edmonton!

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That we should model our team after them?

Maybe in 2013-14 we could model our team after Edmonton!
nope, just adopt some elements to make the team better

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I think their model is pretty clear: bring the stars, make them play defense, and rely on your goalie.

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They looked like dog **** all year. They just happened to get hot at the right time. Do we do have that flip the switch team already.

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05-29-2012, 12:17 PM
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nope, just adopt some elements to make the team better
soupnazi dosent believe the NHL ever evolves, that a franchise can just sit back and expect to win year after year after year and if/when you dont then its best to just make excuses why you didnt as oppossed to learnign from your mistakes and trying to incorporate elements of what made other teams successful(just like so many teams have done by copying our past successes)...

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soupnazi dosent believe the NHL ever evolves, that a franchise can just sit back and expect to win year after year after year and if/when you dont then its best to just make excuses why you didnt as oppossed to learnign from your mistakes and trying to incorporate elements of what made other teams successful(just like so many teams have done by copying our past successes)...
Great...this from a guy who believes Jay Bouwmeester is the answer to our problems.

What I don't believe in is modeling our team after the LA Kings, who are by far the most boring team I've ever watched.

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Great...this from a guy who believes Jay Bouwmeester is the answer to our problems.

What I don't believe in is modeling our team after the LA Kings, who are by far the most boring team I've ever watched.
is that what you got from "trying to incorporate elements of what made other teams successful" that you had to model your franchise completely after another as oppossed to, i dont know, incorporating elements of what made other teams successful????

the problem is you dont read you just respond

i dont think jaybo is the answer to all our problems, not in the slightest, i do believe he is the answer to some of our problems yes, most of which arent based on fantasy and a hope and prayer that player x or player y just falls into our hands to solve ie suter.

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Great...this from a guy who believes Jay Bouwmeester is the answer to our problems.

What I don't believe in is modeling our team after the LA Kings, who are by far the most boring team I've ever watched.
Don't worry about it. Every season there's a team to model after. It was Boston last year. Remember when everybody wanted to be the big bad Ducks of Burke influence?

If the Flyers would have won we'd be talking about offense first is the way to go. Of course the people who were commending the Flyers for those gutsy moves trading Richards and Carter are VERY quiet now. LA picks both of them up and is coming up roses. Surprise, surprise... Flyers may have sacrificed way too much defensive capability. (Pronger going down also is huge, I admit)

These things ebb and flow with whatever is working right now. Next year it will be something different. And certainly nobody was talking about modeling after the Devils. Yet here we are, with the Devils, thanks to that massive Kovalchuk contract, closing in on the Stanley Cup with their 40-year-old goaltender.

So what works? Sticking to your own plan. Like a fake Rolex, the copy never pulls it off as well.

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Don't worry about it. Every season there's a team to model after. It was Boston last year. Remember when everybody wanted to be the big bad Ducks of Burke influence?

If the Flyers would have won we'd be talking about offense first is the way to go. Of course the people who were commending the Flyers for those gutsy moves trading Richards and Carter are VERY quiet now. LA picks both of them up and is coming up roses. Surprise, surprise... Flyers may have sacrificed way too much defensive capability. (Pronger going down also is huge, I admit)

These things ebb and flow with whatever is working right now. Next year it will be something different. And certainly nobody was talking about modeling after the Devils. Yet here we are, with the Devils, thanks to that massive Kovalchuk contract, closing in on the Stanley Cup with their 40-year-old goaltender.

So what works? Sticking to your own plan. Like a fake Rolex, the copy never pulls it off as well.
Remember how last year all the emo kids said we should model ourselves after the Blackhawks and Canucks?

Mission accomplished.

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Don't worry about it. Every season there's a team to model after. It was Boston last year. Remember when everybody wanted to be the big bad Ducks of Burke influence?

If the Flyers would have won we'd be talking about offense first is the way to go. Of course the people who were commending the Flyers for those gutsy moves trading Richards and Carter are VERY quiet now. LA picks both of them up and is coming up roses. Surprise, surprise... Flyers may have sacrificed way too much defensive capability. (Pronger going down also is huge, I admit)

These things ebb and flow with whatever is working right now. Next year it will be something different. And certainly nobody was talking about modeling after the Devils. Yet here we are, with the Devils, thanks to that massive Kovalchuk contract, closing in on the Stanley Cup with their 40-year-old goaltender.

So what works? Sticking to your own plan. Like a fake Rolex, the copy never pulls it off as well.

ignorance is a bliss i guess

good to know their is nothing a player or team can possibly learn from anyone else

stupid superstars always trying to improve their game by taking the best of other stars and incorporating into their own game

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Don't worry about it. Every season there's a team to model after. It was Boston last year. Remember when everybody wanted to be the big bad Ducks of Burke influence?

If the Flyers would have won we'd be talking about offense first is the way to go. Of course the people who were commending the Flyers for those gutsy moves trading Richards and Carter are VERY quiet now. LA picks both of them up and is coming up roses. Surprise, surprise... Flyers may have sacrificed way too much defensive capability. (Pronger going down also is huge, I admit)

These things ebb and flow with whatever is working right now. Next year it will be something different. And certainly nobody was talking about modeling after the Devils. Yet here we are, with the Devils, thanks to that massive Kovalchuk contract, closing in on the Stanley Cup with their 40-year-old goaltender.

So what works? Sticking to your own plan. Like a fake Rolex, the copy never pulls it off as well.
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ignorance is a bliss i guess

good to know their is nothing a player or team can possibly learn from anyone else

stupid superstars always trying to improve their game by taking the best of other stars and incorporating into their own game
I don't see how anything Bench said as ignorance. I agree how many teams have succeeded trying to be a carbon copy of the team that won the year before. To me all Bench is saying is it's fine to take certain aspects and incorporate them but to rebuild your team in a certain year just doesn't make sense.

If you've built your team a certain way and you have your own plan your better off sticking with it and filling in the gaps as needed. The Wings are possibly a couple players away from being right in the thick of it again and then we will have everybody saying we should try what the Wings are doing.

Bench is right this happens almost every year when we have a winner.

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I don't see how anything Bench said as ignorance. I agree how many teams have succeeded trying to be a carbon copy of the team that won the year before. To me all Bench is saying is it's fine to take certain aspects and incorporate them but to rebuild your team in a certain year just doesn't make sense.

If you've built your team a certain way and you have your own plan your better off sticking with it and filling in the gaps as needed. The Wings are possibly a couple players away from being right in the thick of it again and then we will have everybody saying we should try what the Wings are doing.

Bench is right this happens almost every year when we have a winner.
Bingo. As I stated earlier, last year, the same guys who are now calling for us to emulate the Kings were calling for us to emulate the Blackhawks, Sharks, Bruins and Canucks.

Next year, we might be told we should emulate Washington, the Rangers and Phoenix.

But I guess that's part of the "Let's jump a bandwagon and remake the Wings that way" game!

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I don't see how anything Bench said as ignorance. I agree how many teams have succeeded trying to be a carbon copy of the team that won the year before. To me all Bench is saying is it's fine to take certain aspects and incorporate them but to rebuild your team in a certain year just doesn't make sense.

If you've built your team a certain way and you have your own plan your better off sticking with it and filling in the gaps as needed. The Wings are possibly a couple players away from being right in the thick of it again and then we will have everybody saying we should try what the Wings are doing.

Bench is right this happens almost every year when we have a winner.
their is a HUGE difference between calling for detroit to incorporate elements of what amde other teams successful and copying to the letter another successful franchise winning formula.

bench, soupnazi and perhaps yourself seem to assume that when someone says we should incorporate elements of what made vancouver or boston successful or whats making new jersey or LA successful means that we are to drop every single philsophy we have in exchange for becoming the detroit red kings/bruin/canucks/devils which is to be honest, pathetic and absurd.

teams learn from others, to believe otherwise shows a complete lack of understanding of sports, teams for years have tried to copy the methods of our success to varying degress of success for themselves. None of them have carbon copied us, no, instead they took certain elemets, perhaps our best, and blended it with their own style/thinking and their is nothing wrong with us doing the same. We dont own the book or the formula for success, we dont, case closed. their are things that we can learn from others, adapt it for ourselves and implement it. The league and its players are constantly evolving and learning so as to be the best they can be, same holds true for a franchise.

anyone who inferes we should "miss the playoffs for half a dozen years, stockpile lottery picks so we too could become like the LA kings" is quite honestly an ignorant moron and i really wish they would choose another sport to follow.

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I don't see how anything Bench said as ignorance. I agree how many teams have succeeded trying to be a carbon copy of the team that won the year before. To me all Bench is saying is it's fine to take certain aspects and incorporate them but to rebuild your team in a certain year just doesn't make sense.

If you've built your team a certain way and you have your own plan your better off sticking with it and filling in the gaps as needed. The Wings are possibly a couple players away from being right in the thick of it again and then we will have everybody saying we should try what the Wings are doing.

Bench is right this happens almost every year when we have a winner.
Thanks for the assist. This sums it up perfectly.

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